Flyingbronco05 From United States of America, joined May 2002, 3838 posts, RR: 3 Reply 1, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 8158 times:
If it was a Heavy Weight Landinmg.Appropriate Inspections will be carried out by Mx.
As for the Photographers comment on 50cms....I think it would be lots more than 50cms
AKelley728 From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 2101 posts, RR: 6 Reply 6, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 7960 times:
Quoting Bongo (Reply 5): Woah....nice picture...it must be very scary as a passenger !
Why? It's not like they're looking outside! I doubt the passengers even noticed!
ACYWG From Canada, joined Feb 2005, 265 posts, RR: 0 Reply 7, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 7935 times:
Quoting BoogyJay (Reply 4): I think the IB 346 pilots pull to much on the side stick when they hear "Retard! Retard!"
Well, I don't think you would be flaring as late as the "retard, retard" call. I've always seen the Retard call as being the instruction to pull the throttles back to flight idle.
Juventus From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 2835 posts, RR: 2 Reply 8, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 7924 times:
Its been 3 years since I flew to MEX (as a pilot). But I think its called the Mateo 1 arrival. That STAR is a very difficult to negotiate. One moment you are trying to slow down and descend, and all of sudden you are at the outter marker. First timers are usually high and fast on that approach. Another very important factor, is that many pilots forget about MEX's altitude, and they cut the thrust/power above the threshold, so they fall out of the sky. I said this because it happened to me.......
N323ER From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 138 posts, RR: 0 Reply 10, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 7861 times:
BoogyJay From France, joined May 2005, 489 posts, RR: 4 Reply 11, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 7827 times:
Quoting ACYWG (Reply 7): I've always seen the Retard call as being the instruction to pull the throttles back to flight idle.
You might be right. I don't know exactly what have the pilots to do when the "retard" call sounds. I just saw some simulator trainings where the pilots were pitching the nose up just after the "retard" call. It may have been pure coincidences though.
Quoting Bongo (Reply 9): Maybe you don't....I'd noticed...and for me must be scary.
I think I'd have noticed too, especially at the back, where pax were almost sitting on the ground.
AV757 From Colombia, joined Apr 2004, 646 posts, RR: 7 Reply 12, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 7628 times:
It is just another hard landing for the passengers, at a high temperature, high altitude airport 7341 FT at MMMX, with high landing weight and high approach speeds and ground speed over the threshold; it is mandatory to land at the 1000 to 2000 Ft markers on the runway for a comfortable stopping distance and not to overheat the brakes under these conditions.
Cadet57 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 9081 posts, RR: 34 Reply 13, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 7518 times:
whats the "retard" call?
Doors open, right hand side, next stop is Springfield.
Sevenforeseven From France, joined Nov 2005, 164 posts, RR: 0 Reply 15, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 6664 times:
Known problem on the A340-600 is tail scape, pilots are trained to avoid such a incident, although I do know of some having scaped a tail. Lets not forget that the -600 is the longest aircraft in the world. Also the -600 is fitted with a tail scrape indicator which alerts the crew a scrape has occurred either on rotation or landing.
QantasHeavy From Australia, joined Jan 2005, 379 posts, RR: 1 Reply 16, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 5909 times:
Never condsidered the irony that the "retard" Airbus call-out might sound like the airplane is implying the pilot is mentally challenged.
The "retard" here is referring to the Airbus audio call-out (french male voice) that is electronically made when the Airbus is touching down (a few feet from the main gear contacting the runway).
Callouts from radio altimeter sensor: 40... 30... 20... 10... 5... RETARD"
Pronunciation: ri-'tärd
Function: verb
Etymology: Middle English, from Middle French or Latin; Middle French retarder, from Latin retardare, from re- + tardus slow
transitive senses
1 : to slow up especially by preventing or hindering advance or accomplishment : IMPEDE
The picture is AMAZING and as photographers and some crazy enthusiast like me this kind of crazy stuff is spectacular, however I think that IB EC-JBA was extremely close to making contact with the runway which is not good, specially if it happens rather often.
EGTESkyGod From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2005, 1685 posts, RR: 14 Reply 19, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 4753 times:
Retard is shorthand for Retardation, which is the proper word, if you like, for grip or friction. I've always understood the Retard call meant the wheels have made contact with the ground.
EGTESkyGod From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2005, 1685 posts, RR: 14 Reply 22, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 4289 times:
Quoting Speedbird128 (Reply 21): It's not the touchdown, but rather an automated call for the flight crew to retard the thrust levers to flight idle...
I stand corrected. Looks like I was being a retard.
Birdbrainz From United States of America, joined May 2005, 438 posts, RR: 0 Reply 24, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 2198 times:
I'm not sure I see anything unusual here at first glance. It doesn't look like a tail strike at all. Where's the problem?
OK, all things being equal, the tail is a little close, but it still looks fine.
I agree that I'm sure the passengers didn't even notice, unless he hit hard or something.
A good landing is one you can walk away from. A great landing is if the aircraft can be flown again.
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