Juventus From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 2835 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (10 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 9893 times:
Its been 3 years since I flew to MEX (as a pilot). But I think its called the Mateo 1 arrival. That STAR is a very difficult to negotiate. One moment you are trying to slow down and descend, and all of sudden you are at the outter marker. First timers are usually high and fast on that approach. Another very important factor, is that many pilots forget about MEX's altitude, and they cut the thrust/power above the threshold, so they fall out of the sky. I said this because it happened to me.......
BoogyJay From France, joined May 2005, 490 posts, RR: 4
Reply 11, posted (10 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 9796 times:
Quoting ACYWG (Reply 7): I've always seen the Retard call as being the instruction to pull the throttles back to flight idle.
You might be right. I don't know exactly what have the pilots to do when the "retard" call sounds. I just saw some simulator trainings where the pilots were pitching the nose up just after the "retard" call. It may have been pure coincidences though.
Quoting Bongo (Reply 9): Maybe you don't....I'd noticed...and for me must be scary.
I think I'd have noticed too, especially at the back, where pax were almost sitting on the ground.
AV757 From Colombia, joined Apr 2004, 667 posts, RR: 5
Reply 12, posted (10 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 9597 times:
It is just another hard landing for the passengers, at a high temperature, high altitude airport 7341 FT at MMMX, with high landing weight and high approach speeds and ground speed over the threshold; it is mandatory to land at the 1000 to 2000 Ft markers on the runway for a comfortable stopping distance and not to overheat the brakes under these conditions.
Sevenforeseven From France, joined Nov 2005, 164 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (10 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 8633 times:
Known problem on the A340-600 is tail scape, pilots are trained to avoid such a incident, although I do know of some having scaped a tail. Lets not forget that the -600 is the longest aircraft in the world. Also the -600 is fitted with a tail scrape indicator which alerts the crew a scrape has occurred either on rotation or landing.
QantasHeavy From Australia, joined Jan 2005, 379 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (10 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 7878 times:
Never condsidered the irony that the "retard" Airbus call-out might sound like the airplane is implying the pilot is mentally challenged.
The "retard" here is referring to the Airbus audio call-out (french male voice) that is electronically made when the Airbus is touching down (a few feet from the main gear contacting the runway).
Callouts from radio altimeter sensor: 40... 30... 20... 10... 5... RETARD"
Etymology: Middle English, from Middle French or Latin; Middle French retarder, from Latin retardare, from re- + tardus slow
1 : to slow up especially by preventing or hindering advance or accomplishment : IMPEDE
The picture is AMAZING and as photographers and some crazy enthusiast like me this kind of crazy stuff is spectacular, however I think that IB EC-JBA was extremely close to making contact with the runway which is not good, specially if it happens rather often.