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Boeing 777-200LR Breaks Longest Flight Record  
User currently offlineDarrenthe747 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 30700 times:

http://www.boeing.com/news/releases/2005/q4/nr_051110g.html

Way to go Boeing!... That's half way around the world. Truly amazing.
From Boeng website:

Boeing 777-200LR Sets New World Record for Distance
LONDON, Nov. 10, 2005 -- Boeing [NYSE: BA] established a new world record for distance traveled nonstop by a commercial airplane when a Boeing 777-200LR Worldliner landed at London Heathrow Airport today. The 777-200LR (Longer Range) flew 11,664 nautical miles (21,601 km) during its 22-hour 42-minute flight that left Hong Kong flying eastbound the evening of Nov. 9. The distance set by the 777-200LR is farther than any previous commercial jetliner has flown and exceeds a distance of more than halfway around the world.

"This record-setting distance flight exemplifies the pioneering aviation spirit that has made Boeing a leader in the aerospace industry," said Lars Andersen, vice president and program manager, 777 Program, Boeing Commercial Airplanes. "The 777 has been a leader in its market ever since it first went into service. The 777-200LR Worldliner continues that market leadership by offering unmatched capability that allows airlines to offer passengers nonstop routes to their destinations."

The 777-200LR left Hong Kong International Airport at 10:30 p.m. local time Nov. 9 and landed at London Heathrow Airport at approximately 1:30 p.m. GMT Nov. 10. The airplane traveled eastbound towards London, flying over the North Pacific Ocean, across North America, and then over the mid-north Atlantic Ocean en route to London.

"The performance of the 777-200LR during the record flight was exceptional," said Suzanna Darcy-Hennemann, the project pilot leader for the 777-200LR record flight. "It took the support of a great team of people to make this historic flight a success. I'm proud to be a part of that team."

On its flight from Hong Kong to London , the 777-200LR flew farther than any previous commercial jetliner, surpassing two notable previous distance records. For an airplane its size and class, the 777-200LR replaces the distance record set by a 747-400 in 1989 that flew 9,200 nautical miles (17,039 km) nonstop from London to Sydney. Also, the 777-200LR exceeded the distance traveled by a 777-200ER (Extended Range) that flew 10,823 nautical miles (20,044 km) from Seattle to Kuala Lumpur in 1997, setting a speed and distance record. Although the 777-200LR flew farther, this record will continue to stand because the 777-200ER was classified in a lighter weight category for its record attempt.

The 777-200LR is the world's longest-range commercial jetliner and is capable of connecting virtually any two cities around the globe. It is the fifth 777 model. In service, the 777-200LR can carry 301 passengers and baggage up to 9,420 nautical miles (17,445 kilometers).

The first 777-200LR will be delivered to Pakistan International Airlines in early 2006. To date, 43 airlines around the world have ordered more than 700 777s.

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User currently offlineAirPacific747 From Denmark, joined May 2008, 2407 posts, RR: 24
Reply 1, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 30641 times:

Just saw it on the news! awesome!! congrats to boeing!!

User currently offlineCrazyHorse From Austria, joined Nov 2005, 328 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 30613 times:

Great work Boeing.

I hope I will see more orders in order book of B777-200LR in the near future.


User currently offlineTP777 From Portugal, joined Oct 2005, 59 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 30615 times:

Way to go Boeing.

I just hope to see one T7 in TP colours some day.

Cheers



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User currently offlineJakeOrion From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 1253 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 30605 times:

There was another thread on this but it was 200+ post.

Grats to Boeing.



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User currently offlineLutenist From Canada, joined May 2005, 280 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 30600 times:

Finally an airliner capable of linking YWG to the civilized world! Congratulations to Boeing and the crew.

What would the load (i.e., tonnage) have been equivilent to in terms of passengers and cargo?


User currently offlineJetADude From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 52 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 30582 times:

According to CNN they had TWO sunrises. Amazing.

User currently offlineWINGS From Portugal, joined May 2005, 2831 posts, RR: 68
Reply 7, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 30509 times:

Quoting TP777 (Reply 3):
I just hope to see one T7 in TP colours some day.

That would be nice but don't hold your breath.

Regards,
Wings



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User currently offlineRj111 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 30462 times:

Impressive but ultimately pointless.

User currently offlineVenus6971 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 1443 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 30430 times:

Great feat for aerospace, I wonder how long before there is a commercial jet that can circumnavigate the world unrefueled, I know B-52's have done it with tanker support and the Rutans did it twice . I don't know if I would want to be a paying pax in coach on that flight from Hong Kong to London non-stop. Do you think Boeing Engineers are already thinking with a 787-200 LR JFK to BWI the long way.


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User currently offlineGeorgiaAME From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 980 posts, RR: 6
Reply 10, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 30404 times:

I survived LAX to SIN non stop (both ways) for 16 hours of flying. Very easy flight, BUT, and this is one very big but, economy seating was 2-3-2, with 20" wide seats with leg rests, full recline (16" if I'm not mistaken), and a real crew that was actually interested in passenger comfort.

There is no way on god's green earth I am ever going to sit 3-3-3, in a minimally padded 17" seat that reclines 3", and a 31-32" pitch, with flight attendants who are more interested in reading fashion magazines than in cleaning off a dining tray, over the course of 23 hours.

This flight may have been the greatest engineering achievement since launching men to the moon. And both make about equal sense in my book. I'm not going.



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User currently offlineBoeingBus From United States of America, joined May 2004, 1596 posts, RR: 17
Reply 11, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 30380 times:

Quoting WINGS (Reply 7):
That would be nice but don't hold your breath.

I hope your wrong! Maybe you will see a RG and TP share a 777. Congrats to Boeing and to the engineers for a flawless test phase! Very impressive indeed!



Quoting Rj111 (Reply 8):
Impressive but ultimately pointless.

Why do you think its pointless? I think it shows confidence and capability of the 777 and its engines - even tho this will never happen in a real commercial flight.



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User currently offlineDarrenthe747 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 30352 times:

Quote:
Impressive but ultimately pointless.

hmmm... not sure i would agree with you on this one. let's face it, Boeing, Airbus, Lockheed, BAE, Bombadier... don't make "cool" airplanes do cool stuff just to see if they can. Market analysts do a tremendous amount of research before designing these things. Boeing saw a demand for an ultra-longhauler so they built it. not becuase they thought it would be cool to go in the Guinnes book of world records.


User currently offlineStuckInCA From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 1961 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 30343 times:

Quoting Rj111 (Reply 8):
Impressive but ultimately pointless

That's the spirit! What's the point in anything?


User currently offlinePipoA380 From Switzerland, joined May 2005, 1594 posts, RR: 50
Reply 14, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 30287 times:
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Quoting Lutenist (Reply 5):
What would the load (i.e., tonnage) have been equivilent to in terms of passengers and cargo?

From what I read in a newspaper here (stupid newspaper, no real reference) the flight was made with 2 additional tanks and 32 passengers.

Was to go for Boeing. I hope to see the same success with the A380 program!

Best regards
Philippe



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User currently offlineWINGS From Portugal, joined May 2005, 2831 posts, RR: 68
Reply 15, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 30262 times:

Quoting BoeingBus (Reply 11):
I hope your wrong! Maybe you will see a RG and TP share a 777.

I hope I am wrong. The B777 is a marvelous aircraft and am sure it would fit well into Taps fleet. Although I would expect to see the A340-600 in Taps colors before any B777.

As for RG don't forget who will be in management control of who. If I was Boeing I would keep an eye out.

Regards,
Wings



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User currently offlineRJ111 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 30241 times:

I'm wrong actually, the point of the flight was a PR boost.

The plane isn't pointless, far from it. The practice of flying it 11,664 of miles with no passengers means nothing to the airlines though, does it. I'm much more impressed with the max pax range, which is truly impressive. Especially if they extend it.

[Edited 2005-11-10 20:31:37]

User currently offlineDarrenthe747 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 30184 times:

oh, that's different. still, i would disagree with you anyway. although many would argue that the missions to the moon were pointtless and i disagree with them as well... for the same reason. it's an engineering feat. but yes, it means nothing for the airlines. that i agree with.

User currently offlineSlider From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 6816 posts, RR: 34
Reply 18, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 30103 times:

Quoting Darrenthe747 (Thread starter):
The 777-200LR is the world's longest-range commercial jetliner and is capable of connecting virtually any two cities around the globe. It is the fifth 777 model. In service, the 777-200LR can carry 301 passengers and baggage up to 9,420 nautical miles (17,445 kilometers).

This profile is a heck of a lot different than flying 35 people 11,664 NM in a publicity move.

I'm a Boeing fan, but would wait to see what kind of performance in terms of range and payload an airline can get in revenue service.


User currently offlineSparkingWave From South Korea, joined Jun 2005, 671 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 30066 times:

Quoting Rj111 (Reply 8):
Impressive but ultimately pointless.

Not if it sells more 777s.

A statement like yours shows a serious lack of understanding of PR and marketing. And to further prove my point, you should check out the other thread that has 200+ posts.

SparkingWave



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User currently offlineN60659 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 654 posts, RR: 24
Reply 20, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 30058 times:

Quoting RJ111 (Reply 16):
The practice of flying it 11,664 of miles with no passengers means nothing to the airlines though, does it. I'm much more impressed with the max pax range, which is truly impressive. Especially if they extend it.

If you set aside all the hype and the hoopla associated with this flight, we should remember that there is still that "Experimental" decal on the fuselage. More than being a record-breaking flight, I see this as an endurance test, for the airframe and especially the GE90-110B1s. Imagine, two high-performance turbofan engines working nonstop for 23+ hours. From that perspective, this was a very significant flight. Everything else was just icing on the cake.

-N60659



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User currently offlineWhiteHatter From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 29982 times:

Quoting SparkingWave (Reply 19):
Not if it sells more 777s.

it won't. Airlines like to see more than sparkly publicity stunts before they get the chequebook out. The reporter specifically said it "did not impress British Airways".

It certainly won't do any harm but will not affect any purchasing decision.

The BBC had a reporter on the flight in cattle class, who emerged trashed by the experience. His body clock was disrupted and he was exhausted by the flight length. Certainly does not sell itself to ultra longhaul in economy seating!

the psychological effect of breaking a long journey with a refuelling stop is a powerful factor, as well as economically desirable due to fuel needed to fly those longhauls.


User currently offlineAirPacific747 From Denmark, joined May 2008, 2407 posts, RR: 24
Reply 22, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 29864 times:

Quoting WhiteHatter (Reply 21):
it won't. Airlines like to see more than sparkly publicity stunts before they get the chequebook out. The reporter specifically said it "did not impress British Airways".

you'd be amazed how stupid some people are..


User currently offlineN79969 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 29858 times:

Quoting WhiteHatter (Reply 21):
it won't. Airlines like to see more than sparkly publicity stunts before they get the chequebook out. The reporter specifically said it "did not impress British Airways".

It certainly won't do any harm but will not affect any purchasing decision.

The BBC had a reporter on the flight in cattle class, who emerged trashed by the experience. His body clock was disrupted and he was exhausted by the flight length. Certainly does not sell itself to ultra longhaul in economy seating!

the psychological effect of breaking a long journey with a refuelling stop is a powerful factor, as well as economically desirable due to fuel needed to fly those longhauls.

Do you have any more unsubstantiated, illogical, and off-the-cuff remarks or are you done for the day?

Boeing demonstrated the legs of this airplane which are impressive and set a world record. It may give the B777 an (even greater) edge in future sales competitions against the A345.

Intermediate fuel stops are not economically beneficial for airlines. Where do you come up with such tripe?

[Edited 2005-11-10 21:16:27]

User currently offlineLightsaber From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 13126 posts, RR: 100
Reply 24, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 29828 times:
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Quoting WhiteHatter (Reply 21):
the psychological effect of breaking a long journey with a refuelling stop is a powerful factor, as well as economically desirable due to fuel needed to fly those longhauls.

This I would disagree on. I would rather fly non-stop than add two to three hours for a fuel stop. To fly one of those who works for me, that time adds about $500 to the bill (fully loaded per employee costs).

As to this flight... while its impressive to break a record, I would have been more impressed to see a loaded plane do SYD-LHR. It doesn't have to be pax, it could be the same weight of beer kegs.  bigthumbsup 

Quoting GeorgiaAME (Reply 10):
There is no way on god's green earth I am ever going to sit 3-3-3, in a minimally padded 17" seat that reclines 3", and a 31-32" pitch, with flight attendants who are more interested in reading fashion magazines than in cleaning off a dining tray, over the course of 23 hours.

Ok, you make your point with great humor! But someone will want to fly the long hauls on the cheap (like me). Just as someone will get on the EK whalejets in Y for EU to Oz/Asia. The market is fragmenting and this provides quite a few niches. Otherwise Guam will still be a major pacific hub!  duck 

Quoting RJ111 (Reply 16):
I'm much more impressed with the max pax range, which is truly impressive. Especially if they extend it.

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25 AirPacific747 : agreed! It would be awesome to fly LHR-SYD nonstop or even LHR-AKL nonstop!
26 BoomBoom : The flight had just 35 passengers, so I'm sure the wimpy BBC reporter had plenty of room. Would he have been anymore comfortable on an A345?
27 SparkingWave : Not so fast. Airbus was also quite guilty of marketing to the max the A340-500's long range when it first came out. SQ took the bait, even though the
28 StevenUhl777 : The 2nd part of your sentence answered the question in your first part. I don't think any airline who buys this plane sanely expects to recreate this
29 SparkingWave : That's easy to solve this problem - just buy a business class ticket. This isn't the fault of the airplane, by the way. SparkingWave
30 N79969 : How is setting a world-record with your flagship competitive weapon pointless? It also sets a new standard for engineers and pilots to beat. If it we
31 Milan320 : So what's the current order count for the 777-200LR? Personally, if I can get off the plane during a fuel stop, then I'd prefer it. Nothing like havin
32 WAH64D : Great achievement Boeing. Who cares if it has no significance to airline operations. Its a feat of engineering prowess that will be remembered in the
33 A360 : I think SQ managers know that maximum range and maximum commercial round trip nonstop range are different things. They know that planes can't fly bot
34 SparkingWave : I'm not talking about max range vs. max commercial rdtrip range. I'm pointing out that the 777LR is a more efficient plane than the A345-500 and make
35 BG777300ER : In the midst of all the "LR" news lately, I realized that EVA Air has options for the aircraft. Are they going to have a cool livery like the one on t
36 Post contains images Springbok747 : Wohooo go Baby Blue 2 It is an amazing achievement even if none of the airlines will ever repeat this feat.
37 Chgoflyer : Always great to hear from our positive friends across the pond!
38 Post contains images CP744 : Sorry... I don't think even Boeing can link YWG to the civilized world. 22 hours on an A/C to anywhere... yeeesh.... I'm with you... get me off to sa
39 BoomBoom : Agreed, I'd even spend the night--maybe get laid...
40 Aeronuts : If that's the case, then the Wright brothers should not have bothered. After all the contraption carried one passenger/pilot (he was on his belly) fo
41 Post contains images RJ111 : I think you're all reacting a little too tenderly to my post. I had no idea it was so controversial.    I just thought the whole point in a commerci
42 Post contains images United737522 : No, I think we all reacted accordingly. I had no idea it was possible to post such a thing and not have any idea it wasn't controversial. He has got
43 RichardPrice : Congratulations Boeing! I think the 777 is a great aircraft, and the 200LR is a honourable extension to the type.
44 Post contains images Falcon84 : Riiight. It proves that virtually any city-pair is now within reach; it shows that this a/c can be a horse when it/s needed; it shows that it's a sol
45 Ikramerica : Well, if you think it's "just your opinion" than why make such a flame bait statement about how you are right and everyone else is wrong. It is obvio
46 Post contains images Milan320 : Fuel stop maybe 2 hours or so, maybe make it a quickie -Milan320
47 Post contains images A388 : Amazing achievement!!! Congrats to Boeing on this new record. The 777 is indeed the most succesful in its class. Hope to see more orders coming in for
48 Ultrapig : On a flight of 18 to twenty hours it seems to me that the plane is carrrying the fuel for the last half of the flight essentially as cargo as opposed
49 Post contains images Trent900 : Most are descendants of us Europeans don't forget D.
50 Post contains images Astuteman : Seconded, on both counts.... By another one of your positive friends across the pond .
51 RAMPRAT980 : Its too bad that Boeing could not ended the flight here in the states. Then I think the flight would have been given much more media attention. Also,
52 Mdsh00 : A great job by Boeing! Was that really necessary? Boeing employs engineers from around the world. This is not about America vs. Europe. Attitudes like
53 Astuteman : Maybe one day, but I doubt it would be the existing A388...... Given that the 772LR wasn't even fully fuelled, and even a basic A332 is capable of fe
54 PlaneDane : As I understand it, flying non-stop is less expensive because less fuel is burned for takeoffs, climbouts and landings. And we're very proud of our E
55 DarthRandall : It's always cool to see a milestone like this one passed. Actually, aren't we about to hit the plurality point soon if we haven't already? I just thin
56 Post contains links BoeingBus : great article on this remarkable flight: http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/business/247903_longflight11.html "By the time the wheels of the Boeing jet tou
57 TeamREGAL : Do you have any idea how much of that plane was designed and constructed overseas?
58 Post contains links Mirrodie : I was trying to outline the route on that http://gc.kls2.com great circle mapper page. Is there a way to rig this so the proper route is shown? Also,
59 Kahala777 : By Europeans .....! Ah European aviation inventors....how easily so many try to forget! KAHALA777
60 MidnightMike : Damn, the Boeing PR machine is working overtime, took about an excellent way to involve customers & potential customers with an aircraft order for the
61 Darrenthe747 : Hey BoeingBus, thanks for the great article. That's what this is about, the air traffic controllers and the pilots talking "pilot talk" during the fli
62 SunriseValley : Just enter the various way points. I haven't followed it close enough prior to LAX but beyond that I believe they went over JFK then to LHR
63 Abba : Rather the point is that Boeing want some PR when the A380 is going to Asia. Why else take HKG as the starting point and the date when the A380 was s
64 BoeingBus : LOL!!! all you conspiracy theorist please give it a rest. This was in the works all along as we all knew this flight was going to happen. The A380 wa
65 PlaneDane : A significant portion, actually. The award-winning overhead luggage bin design was the creation of those excellent Russian engineers from Moscow, for
66 PlaneDane : Brilliant analysis about the timing of this event, Abba. As for this record breaking flight, it did receive enough attention and even participation f
67 Abba : I just got the South China Morning Post where I didn't see any mentioning of the flight (it might have been written somewhere in very small print, th
68 Sevenforeseven : Saw the ship parked at the United maintenance stand today, must say impressive machine, wild colour scheme.
69 TrevD : What a sad little whiney statement....
70 NAV20 : Abba, of course publicity was one of the objectives. But another was 'provenance'. Not only will much valuable experience have been gained on how to o
71 N754PR : Great, but whats the city to city distance with pax and fuel? Can it make London - Sydney?
72 Blsbls99 : Very interesting that a Singapore Airlines captain was on board for this trip.
73 Zvezda : It's not that simple. The question is: How much demand is there at various price points? The answer is a curve, called the demand curve. Then one can
74 NAV20 : Yes, it's always been able to do that. It's going the other way, westbound, that may not be possible nonstop at all times of year, because of the adv
75 Abba : The trip by the A380 to Asia is part of its certification program. For Boeing to systematically use the 772LR to try get press attention away from 38
76 Zvezda : How would one fit 170 business class seats into a B777-200LR with galleys and lavs? Are you thinking 7 abreast or 8 abreast? How many seat rows? What
77 NAV20 : The first question is likely to be how many bodies and bags they can carry in the first place, Zvezda. What sort of seats they have could be secondary
78 AirPacific747 : Does anyone have a map of the actual route the aircraft flew?
79 Lemurs : It's PR, not ethics. Stop treating it as such and get off the high horse. PR battles have always been, and always will be, fought in this fashion. Ai
80 Mham001 : Exactly how is this any different than Airbus buying billboards in Australia to tout the supposed superiority of the A350?
81 RAMPRAT980 : Yes you are correct. And certainly not forgotten.
82 Baw716 : This certainly is a stellar feat for Boeing. However, the case has been stated about Economy passengers sitting in a 3-3-3 configuration for up to 20
83 Hawker : When Concord was around I seem to recall it took about 12 hours to fly half way around the world. Now it sounds like it takes about 24 hours. Can't ho
84 Zvezda : Boeing's standard 301 seat B777-200LR configuration has 38 inch pitch for business class. Airlines have about 60 inch pitch for long haul business cl
85 TP777 : Hi WINGS, I really think that the T7 would fit nicely on TP fleet to operate somes routes that have capacity shortage like LAD, JNB, CCS, TP can´t s
86 Post contains images Solnabo : The -LR flow with the jet stream, wonder if -LR would make LHR-HKG Curius! Micke//SE
87 Post contains images 777DAD : Like I said, " The Sky's the limit" Some people climb Mt. Everest, Boeing the 777. " Good Job Boeing" Jeff
88 Post contains images BAtriple7 : Great job Boeing. Now distance has been conquered. But as we all know, super-long flights are uncomfortable and, if you go above the SIN-LAX type of f
89 Post contains links CCA : This is the route using Great Circles so not the exact flight plan. Maps generated by the Great Circle Mapper - copyright © Karl L. Swartz. Half way
90 MidnightMike : Yes, the 777-200LR with the 3 AUX tanks, can make the Sydey-London/London-Sydney flight.
91 NorCal : Actually yeah it can, quite easily. It is only 5209 NM to LHR from HKG going westbound on the Great Circle Mapper (ETOPS 180 applied). A BBJ could pr
92 AirPacific747 : Thanks!
93 Viv : 23 hours in an economy seat? As Sam Goldwyn said, "Include me out". Nice but otherwise pointless publicity stunt.
94 Post contains links and images NAV20 : Not quite, MidnightMike, as I understand it. Eastbound, yes, with the three extra tanks already offered as an option on the LR. Westbound, against th
95 Soylentgreen : Good job Boeing! Very impressive indeed!
96 BostonGuy : That's a stretch. Those kinds of advertisements are placed all the time. I think you're struggling to put negative spin on this... and unsuccessfully
97 Post contains images Theredbaron : Now from the famous quotes by the Red Baron Book: Give me Deep vein trombosis or give me DEATH...oops they are the same!! Another milestone in the lon
98 Post contains links Glareskin : I thought Boeing offered the 777LR with 6 auxiliary tanks? See article: http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/htm...pace/2002588498_boeingsales28.html
99 Fiedman : Impressive yes but do passengers really want to sit in a seat for nearly 23 hours. I flew from Vancouver to Hong Kong three years ago on Air Canada an
100 Post contains images YULWinterSkies : Please do not exclude the Japanese as well! SQ is the world's largest 777 operator, and has a bunch of ultra long haul routes, so Boeing would love t
101 Zvezda : The overhead bunks are practical and we may see SQ and others take that option, but it is not practical for SYD-LHR because it adds too much weight.
102 Francoflier : It's a great achievement! Now let's hope it comes standard with the best damn IFE ever....
103 Darrenthe747 : Are you being serious or are you joking? I sure hope you are joking because that's probably THE most idiotic statement I've ever heard on an airliner
104 Post contains images MIAMIx707 : wonder what the maximum speed is, if you 'step on the gas' I just had to admire Abba's comments and responses. Some ppl are blind and want to stay th
105 SSRJ : My Civic gets 38 mpg on the highway. I don't drive exclusively on the highway, but factored heavily in my purchase decision. All is Full of Love
106 Post contains links BlueSky1976 : I bet 777 Premium Economy will feature 2+4+2 seating with seat pitch around 40 - 45 inches. They will be impressed once Boeing proves SYD-LHR is poss
107 Zvezda : 2-4-2 is almost a certainty, but 40-45 inches of pitch is optimistic. I would say 36-40 inches.
108 777STL : Too bad that wasn't at all practical or profitable. How many stops did it have to make to do that? I'm saddened that people here couldn't just apprec
109 JetMaster : What's your point exactly? Regards, JM
110 Backfire : The actual distance covered by the flight was 12,173nm.
111 Areopagus : Lilienthal was certainly a great pioneer airman. I visited his hill where he did his flying when I was in Berlin. However, he controlled his gliders
112 Robert74 : No Airbus-Boeing discussion here but what was the great achievement in putting a huge tank in the plane ? I wouldn't want to fly a 22 hour leg. Seriou
113 777STL : If you don't want to take an ultra-long haul flight, you can always connect somewhere. Take SYD-LHR, if it becomes a non-stop, there will always be t
114 Post contains images SNATH : Yeah, but wait until they are actually offered a cheap promotional ticket on the direct flight and you'll see how they will rush to book it! Tony
115 Ikramerica : why was it such a big deal when A set the record in the 90s? it's a record, records are made to be broken. and BTW, ask any endurance driver what it
116 ZSOFN : I think this topic title should include the word "commercial". There's already been a flight that circumnavigated the globe non-stop (Virgin Explorer
117 Ikramerica : why was it such a big deal when A set the record in the 90s? it's a record, records are made to be broken. and BTW, ask any endurance driver what it
118 TrevD : Actually ABBA you may have it backwards... I recall my Boeing rep telling me back in March or April that Boeing expected to do attempt this world rec
119 Post contains images Iwok : Guess what... When you fly from SYD/LHR, you have no choice but to sit next to a "sticky pax" for 23-hours. Going non-stop reduces this to 20-hours.
120 Backfire : To claim the record, the aircraft had to hit four waypoints after departure - one in mid-Pacific, one over LAX, the third over JFK and the fourth at
121 Milan320 : I believe it was called the Virgin Atlanic Global Flyer. And ZSOFN didn't say the "first" to circumnavigate the globe but rather the first NON-STOP.
122 Timz : Nobody knows what the actual chosen lat-lons were? Was the first one near Midway? You're not saying such records must always use exactly three interm
123 MakeMinesLAX : Voyager was the first non-refueled nonstop. Yes, it had a crew of two, but in actuality Dick Rutan was at the controls for practically the whole flig
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