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User currently offlineFlyingNanook From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 830 posts, RR: 12
Posted (9 years 1 month 2 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 3497 times:

I was just looking at flytecomm and there is a NW Cargo flight stopping in FAI between AMS and NRT. I verified this on Northwest's website. Ordinarily I would just assume this is a diversion from ANC, but flight 903 is scheduled AMS-FAI-NRT tomorrow as well.

So my question is what is NW Cargo doing stopping in FAI on this route? I know we are a good refueling point between Europe and Asia and that these routes via FAI are shorter than those via ANC. Also NW has a cargo facility in ANC, so I would assume that they would prefer to go there. So is this a temporary thing? Or is it a permanent addition to our handful of cargo stopovers? Or maybe they are testing FAI's viability as a stopping point for NW? (probably not)

Also, it appears that FAI is only a stop on this westbound flight, because I can't find any eastbound flights through FAI, but I also can't find this route in reverse stopping in ANC either.


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User currently offlineBoeing757/767 From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 2282 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (9 years 1 month 2 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 3434 times:

I bet you these are Bojoulais wine charters.


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User currently offlineBurnsie28 From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 7565 posts, RR: 8
Reply 2, posted (9 years 1 month 2 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 3419 times:

Quoting Boeing757/767 (Reply 1):
I bet you these are Bojoulais wine charters.

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User currently offlineFlyingNanook From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 830 posts, RR: 12
Reply 3, posted (9 years 1 month 2 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 3395 times:

Quoting Boeing757/767 (Reply 1):
I bet you these are Bojoulais wine charters.

OK, that makes sense. Is that the wine that's shipped all over the world and the whole world opens it at the same time to drink? It's something special like the first wine of the season, right? Or am I just pulling this all out of my ass?

But why doesn't the plane stop in ANC, where all the other NW cargo flights stop?



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User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26815 posts, RR: 75
Reply 4, posted (9 years 1 month 2 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 3390 times:

Quoting FlyingNanook (Reply 3):
OK, that makes sense. Is that the wine that's shipped all over the world and the whole world opens it at the same time to drink? It's something special like the first wine of the season, right? Or am I just pulling this all out of my ass?

The thing is, the Japanese, because of their location, are the first major population that can open it and drink it. They drink as much or more of it than the French



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User currently offlineCarpethead From Japan, joined Aug 2004, 2979 posts, RR: 3
Reply 5, posted (9 years 1 month 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 3346 times:

NW isn't the only one, there's a whole flock of cargo planes heading from France to Japan in the next few days. We never ever get EK or BA 74F in Japan except for a few days in November. Entire AF cargo fleet will probably find its way to Japan.
FAI stopover is slightly shorter than via ANC going from Europe to Japan.


User currently offlineA342 From Germany, joined Jul 2005, 4721 posts, RR: 3
Reply 6, posted (9 years 1 month 2 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 3267 times:

Does somebody know if NSK(Norilsk, Russia) is open to western airlines for fuel stops? I was a highly secretive city and probably still is, as I can remember reading on the SU website that, if you want to visit Norilsk, you need an invitation by a local company or from local residents, otherwise you won´t be allowed to leave the airport.

I´m asking this because the route via NSK is much shorter than via FAI. Also, according to the Boeing website, the 742F has a max payload range of about 5600 km which means it cannot take full payload via Alaska, while it could via Norilsk.

AMS-FAI-NRT: 6804km+5620km = 12424 km
http://gc.kls2.com/cgi-bin/gc?PATH=a...&RANGE-COLOR=&MAP-STYLE=&ETOPS=180

AMS-NSK-NRT: 4441km+4903km = 9344 km
http://gc.kls2.com/cgi-bin/gc?PATH=a...GE-COLOR=navy&MAP-STYLE=&ETOPS=180



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User currently offlineA342 From Germany, joined Jul 2005, 4721 posts, RR: 3
Reply 7, posted (9 years 1 month 2 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 3169 times:

Nobody to know ?  Confused Maybe some of our Russian friends ?


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User currently offlineAvianca From Venezuela, joined Jan 2005, 5934 posts, RR: 41
Reply 8, posted (9 years 1 month 2 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 3122 times:

Quoting Carpethead (Reply 5):
NW isn't the only one, there's a whole flock of cargo planes heading from France to Japan in the next few days. We never ever get EK or BA 74F in Japan except for a few days in November. Entire AF cargo fleet will probably find its way to Japan.
FAI stopover is slightly shorter than via ANC going from Europe to Japan.

yes all flights are full with these cheap wine...

the aircargo industry uses this excuse to all destinations all over the world to increase ad-hoc rates, also if there is no Bojoulais shipped.

Quoting A342 (Reply 6):
Does somebody know if NSK(Norilsk, Russia) is open to western airlines for fuel stops? I was a highly secretive city and probably still is, as I can remember reading on the SU website that, if you want to visit Norilsk, you need an invitation by a local company or from local residents, otherwise you won´t be allowed to leave the airport.

I´m asking this because the route via NSK is much shorter than via FAI. Also, according to the Boeing website, the 742F has a max payload range of about 5600 km which means it cannot take full payload via Alaska, while it could via Norilsk.

good question, and I have to say it is the first time that I hear the city of NSK, as I know nobody is ussing this airport for cargo flights to refuel the aircraft.

I think the most cargo airlines stil operate the europe-japan route via Alaska, but AirBridgeCargo has plnd flights from europe via Russia to Japan (but I think it is Novosibirsk)

regards
Avianca



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