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8000 Flight Number UAL Mainline Flights  
User currently offlineExpressJet_ERJ From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 833 posts, RR: 4
Posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 3563 times:

Does anyone know what the deal is with the 8000s flight numbers for United Mainline flights? At first i thought it was PS service, but i heard them in ORD no PS service to ORD i think. Anyone?


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User currently offlineTWA902fly From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 3122 posts, RR: 4
Reply 1, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 3556 times:

For one reason or another they are assigned different call signs. UA142 might be 'United 8142' in the air... possibly because some UA flights are different aircraft. For instance UA 922 is ORD-IAD-LHR, but ORD-IAD is an A319 and IAD-LHR is a 777 or 763. If the A319 is delayed and the 767 takes off, all of a sudden you have 2 flights with the same callsign in IAD's airspace. So one of them is changed. Thats the way i understand it at least. To prevent things like that from happening with 'change of gauge' flights which UA has a lot of.

'902



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User currently offlineGoBoeing From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 2683 posts, RR: 14
Reply 2, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 3545 times:

They are the domestic leg of a flight that continues internationally, or vice-versa. The aircraft may be different but the flight is called the same number.

I do not understand the reason for this practice. US Airways does it with flights going into PHL. USA 2 from FLL to PHL and then USA 2 from PHL to FCO. Different airplanes, different pax, different gates. Additionally, every time the first flight is delayed, the international one gets a letter tacked onto its callsign, such as USAir Two Papa Heavy.

Nick


User currently offlineEMBQA From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 9364 posts, RR: 11
Reply 3, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 3543 times:

For most any airline, 8000 or 9000 flight numbers are charter, ferry or repositining flights.


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User currently offlineDeltaGator From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 6341 posts, RR: 13
Reply 4, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 3545 times:

Quoting EMBQA (Reply 3):
For most any airline, 8000 or 9000 flight numbers are charter, ferry or repositining flights.

I flew a Delta flight to MSY for Mardi Gras once on a 9000 series flight number since it was additional capacity just for the final weekend.



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User currently offlineHiflyer From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 2167 posts, RR: 3
Reply 5, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 3516 times:

GoBoeing is pretty right there...the 8000 series are normally the domestic leg of an intl flight...either inbound or outbound from the gateway...and normally different equipment from the intl leg. Other carriers will add a A or a P or a letter to the flight number. Different carriers different procedures but it is to keep from having two aircraft airborn at the same gateway with the same radio callsign.

User currently offlineUA777222 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 3348 posts, RR: 11
Reply 6, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 3505 times:

I have frequently been assigned 8 in front of our regular flight number out of ORD due to other aircraft in the air with the same active flight number. I talked to a pilot and he said this was the reason for the added number. Always funny to see the F/A's try to get it right when working with CH 9 during their flight operations.

Thanks,

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User currently offlineOOer From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 1464 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 3473 times:

In most cases the 8000 series of flight numbers are LH code-share flights!!!
The rest are charters, unscheduled flights, etc...

However most are codeshare flights!!!


User currently offlineCarpethead From Japan, joined Aug 2004, 2951 posts, RR: 3
Reply 8, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 3442 times:

Or tack on 'Delta' for delay flight.
Or tack on 'November' for next.


User currently offlineLaxintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 24888 posts, RR: 46
Reply 9, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 3411 times:

Here is some insight into United's flight numbering system.

0001-1299 UA Mainline
1300-1399 Test Flights
1400-1699 UA Mainline
1700-5199 Codeshare
5200-8099 United Express Passenger Flying
8100-8299 Radio Flight Numbers
8300-9770 Codeshare
9785-9814 Passenger Extra Section
9815-9824 Cargo Extra Section
9842-9866 Military Contract - Passenger
9867-9872 Military Contract - Cargo
9873-9877 Civil Air Movement - Passenger
9878-9882 Civil Air Movement - Cargo
9883-9907 Passenger Charters
9780-9782 Unpaid Publicity Flights
9783-9784 Unpaid Courtesy Flights
9825-9834 Test Flights
9835-9836 Familiarization/Demonstration
9997-9999 Scheduled Freighter in Passenger Equipment
9908-9923 Maintenance Ferry
9924-9927 Maintenance Ferry
9928-9967 Operational Positioning Flight
9968-9987 Paid Charter Positioning Flight
9993-9996 Scheduled Positioning



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User currently offlineWillbdsp From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 302 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 3378 times:

I know on December 4th there is a Delta flight 9700 from ATL to IND. Instead of the typical MD-80 its a 757. Anyone know why?

User currently offlineTimz From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 6797 posts, RR: 7
Reply 11, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 3238 times:

Quoting EMBQA (Reply 3):
For most any airline, 8000 or 9000 flight numbers are charter, ferry or repositining flights.

But not UA.

Quoting OOer (Reply 7):
In most cases the 8000 series of flight numbers are LH code-share flights!!!
The rest are charters, unscheduled flights, etc...

However most are codeshare flights!!!

Ignore all of that.


User currently offlineQANTAS077 From Australia, joined Jan 2004, 5850 posts, RR: 40
Reply 12, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 3125 times:

i recently flew UA839 Jfk-Syd and the first leg from Jfk-Lax was with the callsign UA 8122, was due to the flight operating 2 split sectors the captain said. So to avoid confusion for controllers our 1st leg was given the 4 digit flight number.


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User currently offlineJetdeltamsy From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 2987 posts, RR: 8
Reply 13, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 3109 times:

Quoting TWA902fly (Reply 1):
For one reason or another they are assigned different call signs. UA142 might be 'United 8142' in the air... possibly because some UA flights are different aircraft. For instance UA 922 is ORD-IAD-LHR, but ORD-IAD is an A319 and IAD-LHR is a 777 or 763. If the A319 is delayed and the 767 takes off,

What????? I don't think so.

Quoting GoBoeing (Reply 2):
They are the domestic leg of a flight that continues internationally, or vice-versa. The aircraft may be different but the flight is called the same number.

Possibly, but i think the following is a more accurate explanation.

Quoting DeltaGator (Reply 4):
flew a Delta flight to MSY for Mardi Gras once on a 9000 series flight number since it was additional capacity just for the final weekend.

They are called "extra sections", which are extra flights added during times of peak demand.



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User currently offlineJetdeltamsy From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 2987 posts, RR: 8
Reply 14, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 3086 times:

Quoting Laxintl (Reply 9):
Here is some insight into United's flight numbering system.

0001-1299 UA Mainline
1300-1399 Test Flights
1400-1699 UA Mainline
1700-5199 Codeshare
5200-8099 United Express Passenger Flying
8100-8299 Radio Flight Numbers
8300-9770 Codeshare
9785-9814 Passenger Extra Section

There you go.



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User currently offlineCWAFlyer From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 666 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 3037 times:

Quoting OOer (Reply 7):
In most cases the 8000 series of flight numbers are LH code-share flights!!!
The rest are charters, unscheduled flights, etc...

However most are codeshare flights!!!

Why would a Lufthansa flight used a United call sign? Code share numbers
are for marketing and selling tickets.
I don't think you quite know what you're talking about.


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