Zvezda From Lithuania, joined Aug 2004, 10347 posts, RR: 71 Reply 4, posted (4 years 3 months 21 hours ago) and read 18064 times:
Given that the external fuselage width of the WhaleJet is 30 inches greater than that of the JumboJet, I'm sure some airlines will configure the WhaleJet with 3-5-3 seating. The question is whether or not anyone will configure it with 3-6-3 seating.
Evan767 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 2904 posts, RR: 2 Reply 8, posted (4 years 3 months 21 hours ago) and read 17859 times:
Yes, and we all must remember all the airlines that will have some bizarre cabin layout. Such as 3-6-3 (is it possible?) and legroom being 28" just to cram way more seats for money. I project it will look nothing of the sort. Except maybe SQ, they seem to have terrific seats.
The proper term is "on final" not "on finals" bud...
1337Delta764 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 3443 posts, RR: 1 Reply 12, posted (4 years 3 months 20 hours ago) and read 17704 times:
Quoting JetMaster (Reply 11): Which features do you mean specifically?
Simply the basic design and curves, especially with the 787 interior.
Are those purple lights fluorescent or are they LEDs like on the 787? Purple and pink LEDs are not a perfected technology, and are notorious for fading into blue or white.
F27XXX From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 15, posted (4 years 3 months 20 hours ago) and read 17540 times:
I hate the windows - - it looks like you'd be looking down a hallway to see out the window. Plus the ones on the upper deck will be sloped upward (looks lilke even more so than on other Airbus widebodies - noteably the A300)- - not real good for viewing
ElGreco From France, joined Nov 2005, 164 posts, RR: 1 Reply 17, posted (4 years 3 months 20 hours ago) and read 17328 times:
Quoting Evan767 (Reply 8): looks like a plane you only want to try once in your lifetime! must really suck to be in the middle with two people on each side of you
With 3 4 3 you will never get 2 peoples each side, but it's true that is't already 2 to wake up during the night when you whant to go to the toilet (same in single aisle like A320 or 737 when you choose windows)
For info the complete mockup in real size (exept that is was only 20 m long) was presented in "Interior Aircraft Expo 2005" in Hambourg in March 2005 (you can find it on the web) it was nearly the same mockup in "Le Bourget" June 2005.
I test them, quite impressive, but the best one is in Toulouse with all others mockup in "Central Entity" (1 rond point Maurice Belonte) where a real size one in existing from year 1999/2000 (I was near to visit it few times, but never been possible at the end).
Birdbrainz From United States of America, joined May 2005, 410 posts, RR: 0 Reply 18, posted (4 years 3 months 20 hours ago) and read 17278 times:
These are great photos of the mock-up. Thanks for posting.
I find one thing very curiously absent from the first pic shown of Y-class: Center overhead bins. Or are they so recessed that they're virtually unreachable?
Also, notice how there are only petite people pictured, which of course is exactly the type of people I'd use if I were shooting a pic like this.
Sorry if I'm sounding negative. I was merely offering a critique of the shot. I have no doubt that it will be VERY spacious inside, and passengers will like it.
A good landing is one you can walk away from. A great landing is if the aircraft can be flown again.
MarshalN From Hong Kong, joined Sep 2005, 1520 posts, RR: 2 Reply 20, posted (4 years 3 months 19 hours ago) and read 17135 times:
Quoting Birdbrainz (Reply 18): Also, notice how there are only petite people pictured, which of course is exactly the type of people I'd use if I were shooting a pic like this.
Petit people? Excuse me?
Lots of Asian carriers are potential customers (if they haven't ordered already). How is that unrealistic? If anything, putting Americans in there will be unrealistic, since you're only going to get to fly on one if you're using a foreign carrier.
MD80fanatic From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 2472 posts, RR: 12 Reply 21, posted (4 years 3 months 19 hours ago) and read 17106 times:
What's up with those pressure-vessel style windows? Perhaps that is only on the mockup. From the looks of it they could easily move the walls outward another 8 inches.
It still looks like "ten forward" to me. Are we certain this aircraft is not meant to assume orbit?
Ikramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 18610 posts, RR: 59 Reply 22, posted (4 years 3 months 19 hours ago) and read 16979 times:
Quoting FlySAA (Thread starter): Only a mock-up, but it gives you a general idea how the cabin will look like with passengers on board.
Only if airlines decide to do no center bins in Y, which would really make carry on space limited.
Or if center bins are put in, then the headroom in this pic goes down much more, but still very generous.
Ultimately though, it looks very similar to the cabin experience on a 747 right now, with maybe wider seats (though here it looks just like wider aisles instead).
And if it turns out we see 3-5-3 on some carriers, not sure how fun the flight will be.
As always for large jets, the J and F pax are the ones who are going to love the A380, the rest may ultimately come to dislike it if they feel more cramped and more delayed at the airport. It'll depend solely on how carriers treat their pax, just like it does today.
A great plane is only as great as the carriers who fly it, right? Any great airplane can be crippled by a bad in cabin experience.
Of all the things to worry about... the Wookie has no pants.
Netdhaka From Bangladesh, joined Feb 2004, 170 posts, RR: 0 Reply 23, posted (4 years 3 months 19 hours ago) and read 16941 times:
Four people are sitting in the middle but no overhead bins? That will be bad as I think overhead bins are very important because I don't want to check in everything.
Trekster From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 24, posted (4 years 3 months 19 hours ago) and read 16865 times:
Ill be routing for Upper deck economy all the time, wonder how they will get the seating sorted, say who sits upstairs and downstairs??????
I know if BA had this plane, WT+ would be upstairs
25 TheSonntag: I hope (but doubt) that we will see pictures of the 853seat configuration Airbus will use for the evacuation trials.
26 Pelican: Maybe, maybe not. But for now we know only that airlines that are going to operate the A380 (possible exception EmiratesExpress) are configuring thei
27 FlySSC: The upper deck cabin is equivalent to the cabin of an A340. Air France plans a 3 x 4 x 3 in Y on the main deck and 2 x 4 x 2 in Y at the upper deck (
28 Ikramerica: This was the KE press event, i think. well, it's wider than a 340 at foot level, but a bit narrowing at shoulder level, but should be able to do the
29 NorCal: That is an awesome cabin[Edited 2005-11-12 00:45:46]
30 Lightsaber: Almost certain. Maybe not year 1, but eventually. I want to be in that 3-4-3 Y with the spacious ceiling (sans luggage) Don't worry, the convenient c
31 A360: Let's not be so negative about it... The fact is that a 3-4-3 in the lower deck is considerably wider than 3-4-3 in a 747. And a 3-5-3 on the lower d
32 Ikramerica: Boeing does this on their mockups for the 777 and 787 premium cabins, and some customers actually opt out of center bins on the 777 and 747 in premiu
33 Brasuca: Take in account a psychological perspective, which may be negatively influenced in a more crowded cabin.
34 Omoo: i would serioulsy hate to be on the middle aisle. Sitting in the middle surrounded by strangers.
35 Brasuca: If you track the image link, the picture is hosted under pages which say it was at Le Bourget 2005, at EADS conference: .../rv/le_bourget_05/imagens/
36 Ikramerica: And I hate flying in the 3-4-3 of the 747 for long trips. Don't assume that just because I happen to not want to be crammed in 3-5-3 or 3-4-3 that it
37 474218: I am old enough to remember when 747, DC-10 and L-1011 were in about the same stage of development that the A380 is now. They all had super luxurious
38 A360: I understand that! I would prefer the 380 upper deck to fly in Y... I guess you would too. Regards A360
39 Star_world: There have been quite a few comments in this thread about people saying how awful it would be to sit in the middle with two people on each side of you
40 Brasuca: And it's awful flying those 777 you describe, unless you get to fly in the 2-seat section.
41 GeorgiaAME: The mockups are nothing less than glorious. The reality is that the fundamental philosophy of the companies that fly these things is maximum discomfor
42 GVWOW: Would it be at all possible to install recessed pull-down bins over the center seats like the 747 (at least on the upper deck)? They really help open
43 KhenleyDIA: That is so true. However, I do have a question. I seem to remember reading somewhere that 5 was the limit. That you couldn't have more then 2 seats b
44 A360: No it isn't. Not with the majority of companies that ordered the A380 at least. Hum... 3-6-3 on a A380 would be like having 3-5-3 on a 747... How man
45 Agill: It's odd that as soon as the discussion comes to the A380 the airlines will try to press in an absurd amount of seats. Especially considering the fact
46 LongHauler: Exactly! I remember when the B747 was 3x4x2 (when looking toward the nose) in Y, and the L1011 and DC-10 were 2x4x2 in Y. I guess technically the L10
47 MidnightMike: Of course, the A380 is not rated for more than 550 seats, as soon as the rating is lifted, the airlines will stuff more seats in, just the way the ai
48 Agill: Yes but 500 seats in a 777 is hardly the norm. Just because they will have the possibility of putting 850 seats in an 380 I don't think it will happe
50 A360: Don't you people realize that the actual tendency in major carriers is to put fewer seats instead of more seats?! That's because of the new F and J pr
52 Ikramerica: Yeah, but again the curvature at the window might bug me as I like windows. I think most carriers though are going to put premium for most of the ups
53 A360: Maybe VS? Although they will probably opt for putting the Y+ seats in a 2-3-2 layout in the upper deck. There's a new foto of the upper deck wich sea
54 NoelG: Captions anybody? Journalist: "So wait a minute, you say you were just sitting here enjoying your ride on this Boeingbus A308 when every single seat i
Sponsor Message: 
From , joined Dec 1969, posts, 
From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 202 posts, 
From Brazil, joined Mar 2004, 717 posts, 
From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2005, 2932 posts, 
From Lithuania, joined Aug 2004, 10347 posts, 
From Spain, joined Sep 2003, 166 posts, 
From Denmark, joined May 2008, 499 posts, 
looks like a plane you only want to try once in your lifetime! must really suck to be in the middle with two people on each side of you
From , joined Dec 1969, posts, 
From Switzerland, joined Nov 1999, 5054 posts, 
From Austria, joined May 2005, 4180 posts, 
From France, joined Nov 2005, 164 posts, 
From Hong Kong, joined Sep 2005, 1520 posts, 
From Bangladesh, joined Feb 2004, 170 posts, 
Printer friendly format 
