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QF 743s For Low Cost Long Haul?  
User currently offlineSimpilicity From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (8 years 5 months 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 3585 times:

These 5 or 6 operating aircraft would be perfect for low cost long haul, (charter or scheduled or seasonal) especially routes that QF want to get out of, or, are not considered viable due to QF's very high cost structure.

The "new" airline could work in with QF in most respects, whether offering f.f. points or not.

It would need to be under a completely seperate & MEAN & LEAN management & virtually everything could be contracted out back to QF or whoever.

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User currently offlineQANTAS077 From Australia, joined Jan 2004, 5825 posts, RR: 41
Reply 1, posted (8 years 5 months 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 3544 times:

Quoting Simpilicity (Thread starter):
These 5 or 6 operating aircraft would be perfect for low cost long haul

until they end up needing spare engine parts from Rolls Royce and they have to start stripping other fleet members! 743 costs a small fortune to run and as we've seen engine parts are hard to obtain! unless you start stripping the other members of the fleet, then your robbing Peter to pay Paul and that's a costly venture!



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User currently offlineSimpilicity From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (8 years 5 months 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 3535 times:

They could keep say 4 of the 6 & scrap 2 of the worst for parts.

You can do lot of flying with 4 x 743's.

They've got no value on the used market, so the value can be written down. Fuel according to Forbes guesstimates will drop to USD$40/barrell by mid 2006.

A new airline would not have to pay silly QF salaries, which is QF's major problem, paying staff far too much by world standards.


User currently offlineAnsett767 From Australia, joined May 1999, 1021 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (8 years 5 months 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 3468 times:

But would QF want a new low cost airline?

They already have Australian airlines who seem to be happy with their twin jet long haul planes!

I doubt very much they would want to start operating 747's all of a sudden? I may be wrong though.

QF could just convert them to an all economy configuration and operate leisure routes e.g. to Bali and other Asian destinations. I wonder if they would ever do this? i..e is there enough demand and would it be cost effective?


User currently offlineSimpilicity From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (8 years 5 months 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 3435 times:

Quoting Ansett767 (Reply 3):
But would QF want a new low cost airline?

If QF don't do it someone else will.

For routes that are a little long for 763's, 743's would be ideal in either high capacity all Y config. or with a small business/club class at front or upstairs.

Routes such as MEL, ADL, PER/HNL & beyond to Canada/USA avoiding awful LAX & operating low frequency, ie. once a week in a sort of Canada 3000 type operation.

So eg. in someone flew PER/HNL/Canada & wanted to return at other time other than the once a week back to PER, then they could fly back into ADL on a 743 & connect with QF to PER or use QF services all the way back, at a higher fare.


User currently offlineUnited Airline From Hong Kong, joined Jan 2001, 9106 posts, RR: 15
Reply 5, posted (8 years 5 months 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 3380 times:

I doubt they will leave the fleet anytime soon since they have just been upgraded. From what I heard they plan to keep them for another 5-8 years.

In the future kindly clarify your topic heading since this is pure speculations. Thanks

:D


User currently offlineSimpilicity From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (8 years 5 months 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 3222 times:

who's suggesting they leave the fleet?

User currently offline6thfreedom From Bermuda, joined Sep 2004, 3314 posts, RR: 20
Reply 7, posted (8 years 4 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 2895 times:

stay tuned..... for Dec 7!

User currently offline777ER From New Zealand, joined Dec 2003, 11844 posts, RR: 18
Reply 8, posted (8 years 4 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 2842 times:
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Quoting 6thfreedom (Reply 7):
stay tuned..... for Dec 7!

The long awaited fleet annuncement?


User currently offline6thfreedom From Bermuda, joined Sep 2004, 3314 posts, RR: 20
Reply 9, posted (8 years 4 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 2807 times:

Quoting 777ER (Reply 8):
Quoting 6thfreedom (Reply 7):
stay tuned..... for Dec 7!

The long awaited fleet annuncement?

.... and the rest of the news....


User currently offlineVirginFlyer From New Zealand, joined Sep 2000, 4537 posts, RR: 42
Reply 10, posted (8 years 4 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 2791 times:

Quoting 6thfreedom (Reply 9):
and the rest of the news

The much rumoured Jetstar International...?



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User currently offline777ER From New Zealand, joined Dec 2003, 11844 posts, RR: 18
Reply 11, posted (8 years 4 months 4 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 2750 times:
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Quoting VirginFlyer (Reply 10):
Quoting 6thfreedom (Reply 9):
and the rest of the news

The much rumoured Jetstar International...?

We all know Jetstar is going International as the first CHC flights start in 10 days


User currently offlineVirginFlyer From New Zealand, joined Sep 2000, 4537 posts, RR: 42
Reply 12, posted (8 years 4 months 4 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 2728 times:

Quoting 777ER (Reply 11):
We all know Jetstar is going International as the first CHC flights start in 10 days

That's not what I am referring to. I am talking about the rumoured long haul operation using a fair number of the 787s or A350s which will be ordered by the Qantas group.

V/F



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User currently offline6thfreedom From Bermuda, joined Sep 2004, 3314 posts, RR: 20
Reply 13, posted (8 years 4 months 4 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 2482 times:

Quoting VirginFlyer (Reply 12):
am talking about the rumoured long haul operation using a fair number of the 787s or A350s which will be ordered by the Qantas group.

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