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How Alliances May Effect Purchasing?  
User currently offlineB707Stu From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 918 posts, RR: 4
Posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 1198 times:

I started to think about global alliances, One World, Star, Sky Team, etc., and wondered, in the world of globization if strategic discussions take place between close partners (i.e. DL/AF/KE/CO) as it relates to upcoming purchases. Obviously different airlines within the same alliance purchase A & B aircraft. But I've started to wonder, like in the case of AF/KL where 2 majors merge if other carriers will consider partners or potential partner fleet designs and plans, incorporating politics, etc.

Can anyone offer any insight here?

For starters:
KL: 744, 330, 777, 737, 767 (going away, right?), etc
AF: 744, 330, 777, 737, 320, etc. and AF is buying 380, right?
DL: 777, 767, 757, 737
KE: 744, 777, 330, ?

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User currently offlineJwenting From Netherlands, joined Apr 2001, 10213 posts, RR: 18
Reply 1, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 1176 times:

There was already talk of a major order for regional jets by I think OneWorld sometime last year.
It would have been a combined order for possibly hundreds of aircraft made officially by the alliance, giving them massive negotiating power with manufacturers.



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User currently offlineB707Stu From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 918 posts, RR: 4
Reply 2, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 1161 times:

That makes a lot of sense, financially and operationally. Did the order actually happen?

User currently offlineJwenting From Netherlands, joined Apr 2001, 10213 posts, RR: 18
Reply 3, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 1089 times:

Don't know if it happened. Heard there was a lot of grumbling from manufacturers who felt they were being extorted by the extremely low price the alliance offered them (which was I believe little if any over production cost).


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User currently offlineB707Stu From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 918 posts, RR: 4
Reply 4, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 1051 times:

It completely makes sense to purchase in bulk. It'll be interesting to see how A and B respond if this becomes a purchasing strategy.

User currently offlineOH-LGA From Denmark, joined Oct 1999, 1436 posts, RR: 19
Reply 5, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 1018 times:

oneworld in fact did with with purchasing of headphones for use in in-flight entertainment a few years back. They were able to realize significant cost savings by using the purchasing power of several airlines together.


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User currently offlineB707Stu From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 918 posts, RR: 4
Reply 6, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 989 times:

If the alliances strategically purchase whatever it will be just a matter of time before Airbus and Boeing will have to strategically sell together! Now that would be interesting, I can hear the A-nutters from both sides going crazy if that happens... viva capitalism, huh?

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