IcemanT37 From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 12 posts, RR: 0 Posted (10 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days ago) and read 4712 times:
I watched a TV documentary recently which profiled flight attendants in the “golden age” of air travel. It made me kind of nostalgic to see hot meals being served on trays, passengers—both men and women—dressed nicely, and flight attendants looking trim and beautiful.
I understand the harsh economic realities of today’s business, but still wonder if it’d ever be possible to restore some class and dignity to airline travel. Let me ask you then…..if you were given control of a major airline for one year, with freedom to change anything you liked, what would you do to improve your customer's flying experience, and why?
Nomadic From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 470 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (10 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 4633 times:
Quoting A360 (Reply 1): Also, if you want luxury, just use todays best J and F classes, better than ever! Where, in the "good old days" would you find a seat as good as Emirates first class on the 345's?
I agree that there have been improvements in seat design but sad to say, today's J & F class on most carriers doesn't even come close to what was offered years ago on TWA or Pan Am.
I recently flew BA Business Class LHR /IAD and while it was pleasant, I remember service just as polished and professional in Y class on TWA transatlantic. The Y class meal was much better then.
Even First on an AA ORD/LHR/JFK itinerary did not measure up to
Economy class on a TWA or Pan Am London Flight in the 1960's.
First Class of the 60's will always set the standard. On a TWA flight JFK/FCO there was champagne & caviar BEFORE takeoff, fresh flowers through the cabin, meals served course by course from a trolley, various roasts carved at your seat. I could go on and on. Sad to say that recent flights on a variety of carriers in First, Business or Economy leave me wishing for the real 'golden age.'
MarshalN From Hong Kong, joined Sep 2005, 1521 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (10 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 4620 times:
Well... air travel is far more affordable now than ever before. More people ever are flying than before. So, it depends on your definition of "Golden Age". In terms of sheer quality of service and comfort, without regard to cost? Then yeah, we're not going to go back to the "golden age" when you have a galley in the plane with a guy who's cooking your hot meal. In terms of ease of flying and wide availability? Hell yeah, we're in the Golden Age right now!
A360 From Portugal, joined Jun 2005, 434 posts, RR: 8
Reply 4, posted (10 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 4610 times:
Quoting Nomadic (Reply 2): First Class of the 60's will always set the standard. On a TWA flight JFK/FCO there was champagne & caviar BEFORE takeoff, fresh flowers through the cabin, meals served course by course from a trolley, various roasts carved at your seat. I could go on and on. Sad to say that recent flights on a variety of carriers in First, Business or Economy leave me wishing for the real 'golden age.'
I think I would prefer to have a full flat bed and a service by todays standart than just a large and reclinable chair, and a superb service, like in the 60's.
Anyway, maybe I'm underestimating the quality of J and F seats in the 60's?
Where there full flat beds availible in any class?
MarshalN From Hong Kong, joined Sep 2005, 1521 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (10 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 4589 times:
I am under the impression that some airlines had the pull out full bed in F -- the ones where the leg portion is pulled out from underneath the chair and the back reclines fully. Or is that a 70's thing?
Type-Rated From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (10 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 4577 times:
In order to provide the kind of service that was available in the 60's & 70's, I think the industry would have to reregulate and let the government set the airfares between cities just as they did back then in earlier times.
Doing that would provide the money needed to offer such services, of course on a totally astronomical fare-basis'. How does $5,000 (USD) RT ORD-LGA sound to you?
Back in the 60's since the government set the airfares between city pairs all the airlines had to draw attention to themselves was outstanding services. Remember the coach lounges on the DC-10's and the upstairs F lounge on the 747?
Unfortunately, I don't think we are every going to see service again like we did earlier in the deregulated competitive industry that we now have.
Antares From Australia, joined Jun 2004, 1402 posts, RR: 38
Reply 7, posted (10 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 4578 times:
In the historic sense there is only ever one golden age. A golden age of exploration, of sail, of steam, and space exploration.
But of course I think the definition is wrong. Just take a look at the images coming in from the Hayabusa probe at asteroid Itokawa today. You can see the shadow of the probe on the surface of this great heap of boulders and dust.
There will be many golden chapters if not golden ages.
I yearn as an old and not especially healthy person to make one great trip in an A380 in the near future, and lean up against the large windows of a 787 and just look at the earth and sky.
There is something utterly wonderful at the sight of so many people streaming through airports to make everyday journeys to places that once took days, even months to reach.
Sure, there will be setbacks. Quite possibly very nasty ones too. But we are human, we can learn, and overcome, and perhaps be kinder to one another, and put an end to the wretched deprivation that afflicts too many people who can't even imagine boarding a jet.
Look forward to the future, deal with the present. love one another.