Ilyushin96M From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 2609 posts, RR: 11 Posted (15 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 1699 times:
I flew ATA for the first time this past weekend from Chicago - Midway to Las Vegas. ATA has an all-coach layout in all their aircraft; we were on a hushkitted 727-200 going out, and a 757-200 coming in. It seemed that the seating pitch was the same as I have always experienced on any other domestic airline in coach, but I have also heard of high-density charter layouts. Can anyone tell me if ATA's layout is different from that of a typical charter airline? Thanks!
FlyVirgin744 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 1313 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (15 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 1606 times:
I can't tell you about charters but when comparing an airline like DL, they put two more rows in on the 727. Delta's website says their 727s have somewhere between 31-32". I guess then that ATA's are 28-29" but isn't that typical for a charter? The ATA 757 I'm comparing to DL's looks bad. From the entrance of the main part of the cabin(2nd door), ATA has more rows than DL even with an extra lav 3/4 of the way down the plane which DL does not have. Hope this helps. None of this info may be correct though because I'm just comparing the two airline's seat maps and this is what I'm seeing.
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Wjcandee From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 6189 posts, RR: 24
Reply 2, posted (15 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 1595 times:
Don't try to figure this out just by comparing number of rows. There are other issues, like thickness of bulkheads, closets, etc. that make a difference. I can tell you from experience. First, on the 727s, prior to AA's removal of seats, I had occasion to fly consective legs in 727 coach on AA, and then on ATA. ATA's pitch was better; I could cross my legs, and its seats were more comfortable. On the 757, I find ATA's pitch to be identical to that of other airlines. Moreover, I understand that they may be removing a row or two sometime down the line. Their new 737-800s will have far less than the maximum number of seats, and so should also have good pitch. ATA actually publishes seat pitch information by aircraft type as part of its customer service plan, which can be found on its website under "About us", I think. It's quite detailed and helpful. Actually, here's the link:
Jet Setter From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (15 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 1591 times:
ATA actually have quite low density seating for a charter company. Their 727s seat 168 vs the maximum 189 and their 757s seat 213 vs the maximum of 235. While these figures may seem higher than a scheduled airline, ATA don't have First/Business class so there will be more seats on the aircraft. To get a seat pitch of 28-29 inches on a 757 you have to put in the maximum number of seats (as Britannia, Monarch and JMC do)
Actually the 757-200 can seat up to 239, but I don't know where those extra seats would go! I think you'd have to remove a toilet and/or part of the forward galley.