EI747SYDNEY From Ireland, joined Oct 2005, 687 posts, RR: 0 Reply 2, posted (8 years 3 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 9285 times:
I predict an order for EI. They have opened up a new route to DXB what better place to announce the type of aircraft that are going to serve this route in the future. BTW Aer Lingus are just about all Airbus now.
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EI321 From Iraq, joined Jul 2009, 0 posts, RR: 0 Reply 6, posted (8 years 3 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 9231 times:
What about Emirates possible A350 order. And the roumered SU order discussed last week. I know EI are also planning on getting more A320s (10 options held), so this could a good time for an announcement if EI want publicity for their new DUB - DXB route.
I cant see EI ordering A350s (thats if they do even order Airbus) until proper financing is in place for a decent amount of aircraft. I would not be surprised to see EI order a couple of 332s (maybe cancelations from AC or NW) as Dermot Mannion said in an interview last week that he may well order a few additional long haul jets to fill the gap for the moment. Remember, with the SNN stopover being phased out from next Nov, EI will be looking at 3 additional American routes from DUB from this date. MIA, DFW and SFO are hot in the running.
N1786b From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 558 posts, RR: 17 Reply 9, posted (8 years 3 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 9042 times:
This just hit the wires. I can't post the link becasue it is not archived, so I am posting the entire newsflash.
Airbus expects to announce orders of A350s and A320s later this month - source
PARIS (AFX) - Airbus expects to announce several orders of its long-haul A350 and single-corridor A320 planes at the Dubai Aeronautical show later this month, according to a source close to the matter.
The source said that Airbus is expecting this to include new contracts, but added that some of these announcements are likely to concern the transformation into firm orders of already announced intentions to buy, such as those signed by Kuweit's ALAFCO, which signalled its intention to buy 12 A350s back in June.
Airbus is also in negotiations with Qatar Airways to convert 60 intentions to buy A350s into finalised orders, worth a total of around 10.6 bln usd, but according to the source, the chances of this happening in Dubai were "weaker."
An Airbus spokesperson would only confirm that the company expects "several orders announcements" in Dubai, without giving further details.
PanAm_DC10 From Australia, joined Aug 2000, 4053 posts, RR: 91 Reply 10, posted (8 years 3 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 9012 times:
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Quoting Numbertwelve (Reply 1): Maybe Gulf Air - they wanted to make fleet decisions end of this year.
GF is a good call as they could well order further A320's in addition to their current fleet, they may well go with the A350 too. Mr Hogan has been quite cautious and a mixed order could well be possible.
Quoting Numbertwelve (Reply 3): Quoting EI747SYDNEY (Reply 2):
Aer Lingus are just about all Airbus now.
So are EK, QR and Etihad.
EK have to be the prime candidate for a large A350 order whilst I expect QR to finalise their MoU for 60 A350s. Etihad could go either way. Let's not forget that even though the carriers you list have large Airbus commitment's their fleet planning does not see them as being all just about Airbus. EK have 30 + 9 773ERs on order, Etihad have 5 773ERs and QR will order a mix of 20 777s.
Dubai is shaping up to be very good for Airbus and Boeing.
EI321 From Iraq, joined Jul 2009, 0 posts, RR: 0 Reply 11, posted (8 years 3 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 9012 times:
There would be considerable O&D to/from MIA and SFO and some from DFW. Florida is big as a holiday destination from DUB with a lot of Irish owning second homes there. There is a decent Irish population in San Fran (also a popular holiday destination in summer) and I think Dallas has a limited Irish American population too. I guess its the same situation with LAX. DUB has big potential for EUROPE-USA transfer traffic (esp from europe with the US immigration pre-clearance here) but DUB is an awful airport from this point of view as there is still no proper transfer channel in DUB.
BoeingBus From United States of America, joined May 2004, 1595 posts, RR: 18 Reply 12, posted (8 years 3 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 8965 times:
But this is expected. Airbus loves these showes as the media is there. Airbus is going to pull all the major wins since the Paris show and put on a show. Just another thread stating the obvious. I think its more like if Airbus doesn't announce any than that would be a problem.
Boeing OTOH does not... like yesterdays lauch of the 748 even though they easily could have next week.
Toulouse From Ireland, joined Apr 2005, 2733 posts, RR: 58 Reply 13, posted (8 years 3 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 8921 times:
Quoting Danny (Reply 4): DUB airport is flooded with A350 commercials. Did they work?
Yep also noticed that myself when there this weekend, a hige billboard at roundabout just outside the airport and I saw 4 large ads in the Departures Hall. DM did say in the Sunday Tribune this Sunday that an order would be placed within the next 2 months. He also said he wants to double the fleet size in the coming years to 42 short haul and 14 long haul.
EI321 From Iraq, joined Jul 2009, 0 posts, RR: 0 Reply 16, posted (8 years 3 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 8846 times:
Im not expecting that many orders from Airbus for the A350 at Dubai. Most of the likely canditates dont seem to be at the stage where they are about to place orders. There should be some 787 orders also. I guss we will find out soon.
Keesje From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 17, posted (8 years 3 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 8768 times:
E.g. GECAS, Turkish Airlines, Aeroflot, Air Pacific, ILFC, Kuwait and Royal Jordanian are also in the market for A350's/787's.
Air Astana, Czech, Egypt Air, Gulf Traveler, Iran Air, Libya, Saudi Arabian, Sibir or Uzbekistan could also place orders for those aircraft.
For narrowbody's, Air Algerie, Europe Airpost, Norwegian Air Shuttle, Jat Airways, Aerosvit Airlines, Virgin Express, Bulgaria Air, Ukraine International Airlines, Air Baltic, Lithuanian Airlines, Tunis Air, Karthago Airlines, Maersk Air, Air Malta, Astraeus and Blue Panorama Airlines could decide for fleet renewal.
I think it is save to say I'm sure 1 of these will be there.
I dont know why but I still have a gut felling that Boeing will pull a hail mary and get the EK order.
Quoting Numbertwelve (Reply 3): Quoting EI747SYDNEY (Reply 2):
Aer Lingus are just about all Airbus now.
So are EK, QR and Etihad
EK, QR and Etihad have all ordered a large amount of 777NG's and EK has a huge 777 fleet. I dont know but in my book the 777 is made by Boeing, so stating that these are almost all airbus is a bunch of bull.
Quoting Thorben (Reply 14): He claims that Airbus has 200 orders for the A350 and that they'll have 800 orders for the whole year!
Leahy has got to share with everybody whatever the hell he's smoking.
I think that we will just see previously announced orders being converted to firm.
FCKC From France, joined Nov 2004, 2348 posts, RR: 4 Reply 22, posted (8 years 3 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 7778 times:
It's not surprising at all that Boeing announced the launch of the 747-8 , not at the DXB Air Show , but yesterday , since the A380 is really having a tremendous success with the public in its Asia Pacific tour , that it is very well in the Boeing manner to make announcement when Airbus is in the highlights.
Nothing wrong here , this is totally normal to proceed this way.That's the game !!!!!!! Just an establishing.
Being a lover of the 747 , i am happy this plane will stay alive for many years to come.
Dalecary From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 24, posted (8 years 3 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 7471 times:
I think DXB is looking like it will be a bonanza for both OEMS. Boeing have stated in the media this week that although they don't wait to announce at airshows, that they basically will announce quite a few orders at DXB. A big EK 777 commitment appears a given.
Will be interesting to see how many truly " new" orders are announced and not firming up of earlier commitments or announcements of UFO customers.
Interesting that Airbus neglected to mention the A340(they have said the 380 likely won't get any more orders this year). The 340 has to win at one of CX/QF/SQ IMO and CX would be by far the best bet. If it can't win at CX then it's future orders rest with carriers such as CI/PR and follow-ons from existing customers.
25 Sebolino: Actually I heard better. It was Douste-Blazy, former mayor of Toulouse and today's minister of foreign affairs who said on TV "when Boeing sells 3 pl
26 Ikramerica: He says a lot of things, but he also counts commitments as orders. He always has. They aren't the same, but the non-aviation press takes his word. Th
27 EI321: I see the 380 going into a quiet period on the orders front for the next year. I guess we can presume that in the airline business like most others,
28 EI321: Ok but Boeing also said the same this time last year. How hany of the 787 by end of last year were firm and how many were commitments? (serioulsy, I
29 Manni: If they said 200 firm, than they're off by nearly a year. Even today there are no 200 firm orders for the 787 IIRC.
30 YULMRS: I wouldn't be surprised to see some carriers ordering 359 to replace their 342s and 343s. What about AF ordering 359s to replace the 343 and 358s to r
31 Lumberton: N1786b is quoting from this article,Airbus expects to announce orders of A350s and A320s later this month - source I am curious as to why the article
32 BlueSky1976: Bet on it. I'm keeping my fingers crossed for A319/320 for join LO/C0 order... the talk in Warsaw is that this could go up to 40 frames! Hey! YOU LEA
33 BoeingBus: oh, yes they are 4 shy.... lol, well, lets just wait and see if Boeing updates their order book tomorrow... they should have AC's 18 787 in there...
34 FCKC: BlueSky1976 Have you any reliable sources , links about a possible A319/320 order by LOT?
35 Manni: That's why I said nearly a year. 11 months, or 323 days is nearly a year, not?
36 Ikramerica: they were wrong. so you are saying that Airbus should repeat this error after making a big deal about it earlier in the year? what kind of logic is t
37 PanAm_DC10: No need to. Boeing have 36 firm unlisted orders from Chinese carriers that they cannot list until Beijing grants approval, we're all well aware of th
38 Manni: It is widely expected that these orders will indeed be firmed up, with the exception of Primaris perhaps. Therefore, IMO, it's fair to say they have
39 Astuteman: Both Leahy and Baseler do this on a regular basis. Fortunately, the respective manufacturers websites only list the firmest of firm orders.
40 Manni: So the Chinese orders (while I certainly believe eventually they will) aren't that firmed afterall.
41 Danny: I don't have a link but this was communicated several times that they are looking at 737NG and A320 family. Only C0 is supposed to order up to 24 fra
42 KLMCedric: I would like to congratulate everyone sofar on this thread. Here we have a tread talking about airbus and boeing with several Americans and Europeans
43 Scorpio: Boeing was also talking about commitments last year. And they didn't have 200 commitments for the 787 on Dec. 31st, that's what the 'ruckus' was abou
44 Dazeflight: Don't distract the facts. When he talks about 800, he talks about ALL AIRBUS ORDERS for 2005, not specifically about the A350. see above.
45 TS-IOR: Any news or even rumour if Tunisair will announce a deal with Airbus or Boeing ?!
46 PanAm_DC10: Whilst these orders are not yet listed, they've been signed. China Southern, Xiamen Airlines, China Eastern and Hainan have all had trading in their
47 FlyAUA: Austrian rocks They do this most of the time. Makes things more exciting and gives them more publicity Would they? Do they even have any in their fle
48 Manni: Yes, it's possible. I believe a decision to replace these old 737 is due to be announced soon. Candidates being the A320 and the 737NG. To stay in th
49 Thorben: I'm not distracting anything. That's exactly what I said.
50 Trex8: will this be before or after they reem Bush out for his comments yesterday about how they should be like the Taiwanese???
51 Kappel: That's what everyone said aout Easyjet too. Anything is possible if the offer is good enough.
52 FlyAUA: OK I just thought that if they'd be getting any replacements for them it'd be the B737NGs, but having looked at their website and existing fleet that
53 A342: In the article Leahy also says a A380 with 850 seats on BOM-BLR is more efficient than the Indian Railway which would take 2.5 days anyway. But everyb
54 Luisca: http://www.flightinternational.com/A...n+big+Emirates+777-300ER+deal.html Im telling you they will order the 787 too. JUST WAIT AND SEE EI321 I dont
55 BoogyJay: "Sure" is quite strong of a word, especially if you don't have any source. I'd say they might very well build it but the problem for EK is not if but
56 Luisca: Once again, It is just a gut feeling so dont ask for sources, Its like saying Im sure Brazil will win the World Cup. The EIS could be a problem for E
57 YULMRS: A translation please ? For those who don't speak german ... Thanks
58 Ikramerica: People equate the two guys, because they are both PR guys and both prone to hyperbole, but every time I read a Randy quote about the topic, he seems
59 Luisca: There are a couple of news that seem interesting due to the fact that they are coming out at the same time 1. Emirates to order 26 773ER 2. Boeing co
60 PanAm_DC10: Kingfisher will order 30 A320's By Anand Krishnamoorthy and Andrea Rothman Nov. 18 (Bloomberg) -- Airbus SAS, the world's biggest planemaker, will win
61 QANTAS077: next obvious question is will airbus announce any A380 orders at the Dubai Airshow...they got very little at the Paris Airshow...wonder how it'll fair
62 PanAm_DC10: Just to update on Kingfisher. They'll only be ordering A320's and an order for 20 Turboprops though they decline to name the manufacturer for them. It
63 Shenzhen: When I add the 56 787 orders from 2004 to the 173 orders in 2005, I come up with 229 orders. Fat chance that the A350 will have 200 firm by the end o
64 Manni: Looks like it. Several hundreds is atleast 200 but implies a lot more, while there are at the moment only 143 commiments made public.
65 Shenzhen: How many orders did Airbus announce in Paris, and how many are firm now? Not talking just A350s either. Point.. we can make announcements, drink cham
66 Shenzhen: How many orders did Airbus announce in Paris, and how many are firm now? Not talking just A350s either. Point.. we can make announcements, drink cham
67 FCKC: TS-IOR Yesterday i spoke with a TU captain about an eventual aircraft new order. He told me he believes not before 2 or 3 years.So obviously nothing a
68 Trent900: In my opinion EK will order similar amounts of aircraft from BOTH manufacturers. They have always done this in the past and will always keep doing it,
69 CV990: Hi! Another airline that eventually Airbus will anounce in Dubai will be certainly TAP. The TAP representatives will go next Monday to Toulouse to sig
70 Manni: While I dont disagree perse, with your prediction that EK will order a similar amount/ value of aircraft from both manufacturers, I'm curious to know
71 PanAm_DC10: Apparently the Chinese will sign for 150 737s on Sunday, with President Bush. That's a rather misguided way to express their displeasure over Mr Bush
72 DAYflyer: What a qauck. Too bad we don't have a smiley called "stoned". This would be a good spot for one. Yep. Much to Slobino's and Keesje's dislike.
73 RayChuang: I won't be surprised that EI orders the A350, probably the A350-9 model. That way, EI can use a single airplane type for all long-distance flying from
74 Keesje: Le Bourget had a sobering effect on some young patriots around here. Time for another cold shower?