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King Air Landing Gear Issue @ KFTY  
User currently offlineFtrguy From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 358 posts, RR: 0
Posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 4787 times:

A King Air 100 is having trouble getting its landing gear down at Fulton County airport in Atlanta. Appears the right main is stuck up. Fox News and CNN are covering it live.

I have one question. Why in the hell is this guy attempting a landing at FTY with a landing gear problem? The longest rwy there is something like 5500 ft long and maybe 100ft wide. If I recall the runway also has quite a drop off on both ends. Dobbins, PDK, and even ATL are nearby with much better facilities and better runways.

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User currently offlineHigney85 From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 31 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 4760 times:

the gear came down.... wonder what happened?

User currently offlineFtrguy From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 358 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 4747 times:

That is one lucky mofo....

User currently offlineAirTran737 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 3704 posts, RR: 12
Reply 3, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 4742 times:
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User currently offlineFtrguy From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 358 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 4724 times:

He's about 100 ft from the end of the runway though with a nice dropoff at the end. I still don't understand why he didn't go somewhere else...

User currently offlineHigney85 From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 31 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 4699 times:

Im still curious why only one would not come down, even after an attempted emergency extension. It was a good landing though

User currently offlineAileron11 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 183 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 4694 times:

Hey Ftrguy, maybe they did not want to go atl is because the airport is the busiest airport in the states and they did not want to have ripple effects.


Jersey Lou
User currently offlineFtrguy From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 358 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 4675 times:

If its my life or the lives of my passengers vs. inconveniencing other people... Hmm, what would you choose? Dobbins AFB is approx 10 miles to the north with a nice 10000 x 200 ft runway with no traffic. If I'm flying an airplane with an emergency, no one but me is going to tell me where I'm going to land.

I'm glad this all worked out, but I think better decisions could have been made...


User currently offlineSllevin From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 3376 posts, RR: 6
Reply 8, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 4629 times:

I suspect it's the owner's home base. Being familiar with landmarks is certainly nice and helps greatly.

Also, if you land at Dobbins, you have 48 hours to get the airplane off the field, which means taking the wings off, etc. Something to be avoided if at all possible.

It was a nice looking 100 -- clearly it had mods and stuff. I don't blame the owner for trying to minimize damage. Was a nice landing.

Steve


User currently offlineTheSorcerer From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2005, 1048 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 4621 times:

The idiot presenter on FOX called it a turbojet. LOL

Quoting Ftrguy (Reply 7):
If I'm flying an airplane with an emergency, no one but me is going to tell me where I'm going to land.

ATC have a decision to make as well don't they?

The Sorcerer



ALITALIA,All Landings In Torino, All Luggage In Athens ;)
User currently offlineGib From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 281 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 4603 times:

http://11alive.com/

Vid upper left. Sweet job!


User currently offlineGroundStop From United States of America, joined Jun 2003, 611 posts, RR: 6
Reply 11, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 4598 times:

Ultimately, the safety of the crew and passengers will predicate where the best place to conduct a gear up landing is. That being said, I'm fairly certain that the Vref for a gear-up landing and subsequent 'skid out' of a King Air does not require the use of a 9,000 foot or greater runway such as at ATL or MGE. Also, the ARFF capability of FTY is more than adequate for a King Air. Taking those factors into account as well as what has been mentioned above, FTY makes perfect sense.

User currently offlineStuckinMAF From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 4576 times:

Quoting Gib (Reply 10):
http://11alive.com/

From the link above-

"Jet Pilot Makes Belly Landing
The pilot of a private jet made a successful landing on the belly of the plane after reporting mechanical trouble with his landing gear."

What the heck? That jet grew PROPS!!!! Oh well, it really is a jet after all.


User currently offlineFtrguy From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 358 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 4554 times:

Quoting Sllevin (Reply 8):
Also, if you land at Dobbins, you have 48 hours to get the airplane off the field, which means taking the wings off, etc. Something to be avoided if at all possible.

So what. Explain that to the passengers families. "I'm sorry that the plane ran off the runway into a ditch and your love one was killed. We wanted to save a few bucks in transportation costs in case the landing was successful." At least you will be alive to be inconvenienced.

Quoting TheSorcerer (Reply 9):
ATC have a decision to make as well don't they?

When you declare an emergency, ATC is supposed to vector all traffic out of your way as to give you every option possible.


Like I said before, everything turned out fine but I would have never landed at FTY.

I would bet there is very minimal damage to the plane and wouldn't be surprised if it is up flying again very soon.


User currently offlineFedex From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 4511 times:

Raytheon has a great Maintenance facility there at FTY.

User currently offlineBond007 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 5417 posts, RR: 8
Reply 15, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 4494 times:

Boy, aren't we all experts. Did anyone think that it might actually take a King Air less time to stop with no wheels?

The pilot made an educated decision under probably extreme stress ... Don't go second guessing his decisions. You have no idea what his decisions were based on.

If had attempted to land at Dobbins and crashed, I suspect we would have the same " I wouldn't have done that" remarks.

It's worse than the media!

Well done the pilot.


Jimbo



I'd rather be on the ground wishing I was in the air, than in the air wishing I was on the ground!
User currently offlineSllevin From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 3376 posts, RR: 6
Reply 16, posted (8 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 4419 times:

Quoting Ftrguy (Reply 13):
So what. Explain that to the passengers families.

This appeared to be a Part 91 operation. My assumption is that the pilot was the owner, and he discussed his options with the 1 other person on board (given that the passenger didn't appear to beat the living daylights out of him when they got out of the airplane).

Again, familiarity is worth a lot. It's very easy to pork a landing on an unfamiliar strip, especially one wider than you are used to -- it totally mucks with you.

The first time I landed at Plant 42 (200' wide usable, 400' total) it was disconcerting. Not something I'd want to do while also belly landing -- something one hopefully doesn't have a lot of practice doing.

Steve


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