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Busiest Air Route Sector In The World SYD - MEL?  
User currently offlineVH From Australia, joined Nov 2005, 18 posts, RR: 0
Posted (8 years 10 months 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 12088 times:

I would love some help in knowing which two direct airports have the busiest air sector in the world. I have always thought it was Sydney - Melbourne with about 110+ commercial flights each day. The 110+ flights are made up from Qantas and Virgin Blue with some additional internationals doing short hop flights as well.

Any help in clarifying the busiest sector between two airports would be much appreciated.

If this has been discussed previously . . . my apologies.

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User currently offlineVirginFlyer From New Zealand, joined Sep 2000, 4574 posts, RR: 41
Reply 1, posted (8 years 10 months 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 12029 times:

VH - welcome to airliners.net.

SYD-MEL ranks right up there, but I believe Tokyo-Sapporo is the number one.

Here is a recent thread which discussed this:

RE: What 2 Cities Have The Most Traffic Worldwide (by Joost Oct 22 2005 in Civil Aviation)

V/F



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User currently offlineN754PR From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (8 years 10 months 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 12016 times:

TPE - KHH
HKG - TPE

Very busy


User currently offlineUnited Airline From Hong Kong, joined Jan 2001, 9169 posts, RR: 15
Reply 3, posted (8 years 10 months 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 11955 times:

LAX-SFO? Also CDG-LHR?

User currently offlineAF022 From France, joined Dec 2003, 2161 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (8 years 10 months 4 days ago) and read 11784 times:

According to my data for weekly frequencies:

479 - Congonhas (Sao Paulo) - Santos Dumont (Rio)
446 - Barcelona - Madrid
382 - Sydney - Melbourne


User currently offlineBond007 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 5417 posts, RR: 8
Reply 5, posted (8 years 10 months 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 11714 times:

For number of flights, it's Barcelona - Madrid (which contradicts the above post - but they are pretty close regardless) .... and been discussed every month for the past n years.

For pax, it's one of the Japan/Asian domestics, can't remember which (HND-?), but try a search. Almost all the flights are heavies. Routes from HND make up the top 3 or 4 routes in terms of PAX, then SYD-MEL.

Jimbo

[Edited 2005-11-18 15:22:15]


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User currently offlineIBERIA747 From Spain, joined Aug 2003, 1831 posts, RR: 58
Reply 6, posted (8 years 10 months 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 11680 times:

God...I don't mean to be rude but: do a search.

This has been discussed many times during this year.



¡¡VIVA ESPAÑA!!
User currently offlineMauriceB From Netherlands, joined Aug 2004, 2490 posts, RR: 25
Reply 7, posted (8 years 10 months 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 11670 times:

AMS-LHR is also in the top 10 for sure, with Easyjet, BMI, VLM, KLM, BA and somethimes HV

User currently offlineCHRISBA777ER From UK - England, joined Mar 2001, 5964 posts, RR: 62
Reply 8, posted (8 years 10 months 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 11657 times:

In terms of number of seats - I'll bet London to New York is up there.

LHR-CDG is not that big actually - a lot of people get the Eurostar or drive it.



What do you mean you dont have any bourbon? Do you know how far it is to Houston? What kind of airline is this???
User currently offlineSemsem From Israel, joined Jul 2005, 1779 posts, RR: 3
Reply 9, posted (8 years 10 months 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 11557 times:

I read somewhere that it is London to Paris.

User currently offlineZsx81 From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 301 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (8 years 10 months 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 11518 times:

Quoting IBERIA747 (Reply 6):
God...I don't mean to be rude but: do a search.

This has been discussed many times during this year.

I dont mean to be rude either, but whats your problem if its gets discussed one more time? I have never seen this topic and its very interesting to me. I am sure the people who are contributing haven't seen it either. So what if its taking a few extra bytes on the server and exactly one line in the topics list? If you know its been discussed before you dont want to read it again don't click on it, but there has to be someone who has to complain atleast once! I think we would all appreciate it if you contributed what the result of previous discussions was since you ve read it rather then whining about idiotic things!

About the topic how come the US East coast cities with Shuttle services arent mentioned? I would think they would be pretty busy since they get departures every half hour from 3 or 4 major airlines?


User currently offlineBigGSFO From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 2924 posts, RR: 6
Reply 11, posted (8 years 10 months 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 11503 times:

I know that S. Calif.-N. Calif. is up there given the high frequency of flights from several airports linking each other. There is no high-speed rail link between the two metro areas so the only way to make this dense market feasible for the business traveler is to fly.

User currently offlineBond007 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 5417 posts, RR: 8
Reply 12, posted (8 years 10 months 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 11454 times:

Quoting Zsx81 (Reply 10):
but whats your problem if its gets discussed one more time?

I don't have an issue with the thread, and note that as well as saying 'do a search' I did in fact provide some answers.

BUT ... exactly the same questions are being asked, and have been answered on similar threads, so you have 2 options - read the old threads and find the answers, OR keep asking and answering the same questions every month.... and argue over whether it's single airport, metropolitan areas, number of passengers, number of O&D passengers, whether ISP is part of NYC, etc. etc. etc,

trust me...it's all coming  Wink


Jimbo



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User currently offlineKtachiya From Japan, joined exactly 10 years ago today! , 1794 posts, RR: 2
Reply 13, posted (8 years 10 months 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 11397 times:

Quoting VirginFlyer (Reply 1):
but I believe Tokyo-Sapporo is the number one

In terms of capacity, I heard that. But when it comes to frequencies, I have no idea. Shouldn't it be some domestic run in the states? Yes, HND-CTS is quite amazing with all those heaving leaving the gate every 30 minutes. I've never used it myself but like HND-ITM, I have done many times. Airports in Japan are just too congested that they need all the heavies.



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User currently offlineTimz From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 6835 posts, RR: 6
Reply 14, posted (8 years 10 months 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 11365 times:

Quoting Bond007 (Reply 12):
BUT ... exactly the same questions are being asked, and have been answered on similar threads,

Problem is, in the other threads most of the answers are wrong.

Try the table in reply #9 at
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=273773

Dunno how current it is, but I'll bet the top three haven't changed.


User currently offlineKahala777 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (8 years 10 months 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 11308 times:

SFO/OAK/SJC-SNA/BUR/LAX/ONT

KAHALA777


User currently offlineOzglobal From France, joined Nov 2004, 2721 posts, RR: 4
Reply 16, posted (8 years 10 months 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 11249 times:

Quoting Zsx81 (Reply 10):
About the topic how come the US East coast cities with Shuttle services arent mentioned?


Simple: They're not in the top 5.



When all's said and done, there'll be more said than done.
User currently offlineTimz From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 6835 posts, RR: 6
Reply 17, posted (8 years 10 months 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 11239 times:

"SFO/OAK/SJC-SNA/BUR/LAX/ONT"

He asked about airport-pairs-- California is no longer near the top by that criterion.

[Edited 2005-11-18 19:07:51]

User currently offlineBond007 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 5417 posts, RR: 8
Reply 18, posted (8 years 10 months 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 11218 times:

Quoting Timz (Reply 14):
Problem is, in the other threads most of the answers are wrong.

Airport to Airport it's BCN-MAD.

Which is what I said, and what most of the other threads come up with.

City to City is a different question altogether. It's not Barcelona - Madrid.


Jimbo



I'd rather be on the ground wishing I was in the air, than in the air wishing I was on the ground!
User currently offlineDoona From Sweden, joined Feb 2005, 3770 posts, RR: 13
Reply 19, posted (8 years 10 months 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 10935 times:

Quoting Bond007 (Reply 18):
Airport to Airport it's BCN-MAD.

When you're talking about number of flights, this is true, but in terms of PAX, as already mentioned, HND-CTS is at the top.

Cheers
Mats



Sure, we're concerned for our lives. Just not as concerned as saving 9 bucks on a roundtrip to Ft. Myers.
User currently offlineHardiwv From Brazil, joined Oct 2004, 8780 posts, RR: 49
Reply 20, posted (8 years 10 months 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 10762 times:

Quoting AF022 (Reply 4):
According to my data for weekly frequencies:

479 - Congonhas (Sao Paulo) - Santos Dumont (Rio)
446 - Barcelona - Madrid
382 - Sydney - Melbourne

Correct, CGH-SDU is not only the busiest in term sof frequencies but also in terms of pax - and note that flight are also operated GRU-GIG, which would make Sao Paulo-Rio de Janeiro even busier!!!

Rgs,


User currently offlineTimz From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 6835 posts, RR: 6
Reply 21, posted (8 years 10 months 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 10670 times:

Quoting Hardiwv (Reply 20):
CGH-SDU is not only the busiest in term sof frequencies but also in terms of pax

Why do you think so? What does it have, maybe 10000 seats per day scheduled each way? Fill them all and you still wouldn't match HND-CTS.


User currently offlineMonteycarlos From Australia, joined Mar 2005, 2107 posts, RR: 28
Reply 22, posted (8 years 10 months 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 10128 times:

I believe its number 2 behind TPE-KHH. Thats from some figures I saw floating around which I am not going to link to.


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User currently offlineN751PR From Japan, joined May 2002, 1249 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (8 years 10 months 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 9631 times:

Quoting Ktachiya (Reply 13):
In terms of capacity, I heard that.

Around 40 widebody flights a day...yep that's a one heck of alot in capacity. boggled 

Quoting Timz (Reply 14):

Try the table in reply #9 at
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showth...73773

Good to know I'm not the only SSCer-A.netter.  Wink



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User currently offlineAIRCANL1011 From Canada, joined Aug 2005, 262 posts, RR: 1
Reply 24, posted (8 years 10 months 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 9586 times:

Quoting IBERIA747 (Reply 6):
God...I don't mean to be rude but: do a search.

This has been discussed many times during this year.

Hey, Leave the new guy alone!!!!!



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