KarlB737 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 3006 posts, RR: 11 Posted (8 years 3 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 5138 times:
Courtesy: The Chicago Tribune
Hooters Air ending service to Rockford
Published November 18, 2005, 2:53 PM CST
ROCKFORD -- Just days after United Airlines announced plans to start flying out of Rockford International Airport, Hooters Air said Friday it is discontinuing all flights there after less than a year.
The Myrtle Beach, S.C.-based carrier said it has given airport officials notice that it will phase out service over the next several weeks. It began flying out of Rockford on Feb. 3 and currently provides nonstop service to Myrtle Beach, Atlanta, Denver, Las Vegas and St. Petersburg/Clearwater, Fla.
Devil505x From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 232 posts, RR: 0 Reply 1, posted (8 years 3 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 5087 times:
I know they just started in my area at AVP and are doing pretty well. They also have started to originate flights at AVP then fly them 50mi to ABE to pick up more passengers. I guess this allows for more profitability. Maybe Rockford wasn't that profitable or there were no options like AVP->ABE-> Florida
B757capt From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 1283 posts, RR: 0 Reply 7, posted (8 years 3 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 4711 times:
RFD is a great market, but when the airport is giving money to a carrier to compete against one that has lauched big service; its time to go.
This is the offical press release
For Immediate Release November 15, 2005
Contact: Judy Tull
Hooters Air to Cancel Service from
the Greater Rockford Airport
Myrtle Beach/ Nov 15 /--Hooters Air will be reducing service and ending service from the Greater Rockford Airport in Rockford, Illinois by January 6, 2006. Following the recent announcement by the Rockford Airport Authority of additional service between Rockford and Denver with $2.5 Million in revenue guarantees from the Rockford Airport the decision has been made to suspend service from Rockford. “We feel we can compete with anyone from a cost stand point,” said President of Hooters Air Mark Peterson. “However, when a Community and Airport provide incentives and revenue guarantees using public funds to a competing carrier over the same route, it makes it impossible to justify continuing that service in this period of record high fuel prices and airport costs.”
Based in Myrtle Beach, South Carolina, Hooters Air initiated service to Atlanta in March 2003 and now serves 15 markets. Refunds will be made to customers on all affected flights will be refunded through Hooters Air Reservations at 1-888-FLY-HOOT. Hooters Air Flights are Public Charters operated by Pace Airlines. See Tour Participant Agreement for full terms and conditions of travel.
Hooters of America, Inc. is the franchiser and operator of over 400 Hooters restaurants in 46 states and 16 foreign countries. The first Hooters opened in 1983 in Clearwater, Florida. Hooters is well known for its brand of food and fun, featuring a casual beach-theme atmosphere, a menu that features seafood, sandwiches and Hooters’ signature chicken wings, and service provided by the All-American cheerleaders, the Hooters Girls.
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RoseFlyer From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 9177 posts, RR: 52 Reply 9, posted (8 years 3 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 4452 times:
Wow, good news followed shortly by bad news. Hooters Air was great for Rockford and its service suited the local vacation population as well. I had the chance to fly Hooters Air in October along with TransMeridian. In the span of a few months both carriers that pioneered RFD-LAS and competed together are leaving. Hopefully Allegiant can take over as they seem to be doing well and are expanding. Also the United service will replace the Hooters Air Denver service. Now what would be great would be to see either Delta or Airtran start RFD-ATL service.
FATFlyer From United States of America, joined May 2001, 5742 posts, RR: 16 Reply 10, posted (8 years 3 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 4368 times:
Quoting B757capt (Reply 7): Following the recent announcement by the Rockford Airport Authority of additional service between Rockford and Denver with $2.5 Million in revenue guarantees from the Rockford Airport the decision has been made to suspend service from Rockford.
I have to admit I've watched this story unfold with interest.
I've been real surprised there hasn't been more outrage over UAX being given $2.5 million to serve a route that was already being served. After all it wasn't that long ago that UA was upset about Frontier getting a $1 million revenue guarantee to serve Fresno.
And part of the last argument people used was that the guarantee should not include federal funds, but Rockford is using another SCASD grant to partially fund this guarantee for UAX.
So all I can say is hhmmmmm.
"Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness." - Mark Twain
Atrude777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 5672 posts, RR: 53 Reply 11, posted (8 years 3 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 4124 times:
If you can read in one of the releases; Hooters Air also said they can make more profitable routes. Could one be Youngstown? A worker of Hooters Air stated this in an email with me: "We have had negotiation with Youngtown however at this time no final decision has been made." And a Airport spokesman confirmed with me last week this was true. So could they be interested in Youngstown? BTW.. The airport has been contacting Travel Agents like a friend of mine who said they were asked if interested in selling golf packages for an airline at the airport. Thanks
Good things come to those who wait, better things come to those who go AFTER it!
B777-700 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 13, posted (8 years 3 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 4088 times:
Quoting B757capt (Reply 7): “However, when a Community and Airport provide incentives and revenue guarantees using public funds to a competing carrier over the same route, it makes it impossible to justify continuing that service in this period of record high fuel prices and airport costs.”
Quoting FATFlyer (Reply 10): I've been real surprised there hasn't been more outrage over UAX being given $2.5 million to serve a route that was already being served.
This is exactly what AirTran ggot in TLH, SRQ, and GSO and you don't see Delta running away. As a matter of fact, when the money stops, FL is the one to vanish!
FATFlyer From United States of America, joined May 2001, 5742 posts, RR: 16 Reply 14, posted (8 years 3 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 4028 times:
Quoting B777-700 (Reply 13): This is exactly what AirTran ggot in TLH, SRQ, and GSO and you don't see Delta running away. As a matter of fact, when the money stops, FL is the one to vanish!
It's also exactly what UA wrote to the DOT complaining about with the SCASD program. FAT got a SCASD grant to provide a revenue guarantee to Frontier to operate FAT-DEN. UA then cried foul to the government and the media saying a guarantee shouldn't be given to another airline on an identical route.
I just find it interesting that now that UA got money to serve a route that Hooters already was flying, the same people who thought it was unfair to UA aren't saying this was unfair to Hooters.
"Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness." - Mark Twain
RoseFlyer From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 9177 posts, RR: 52 Reply 16, posted (8 years 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 3945 times:
Quoting Tornado82 (Reply 15): I wonder what happens to Hooters' LAS service now. First it was ABE-GYY-LAS. Now I guess it's MYR-RFD-LAS according to what I remember reading on here. Wouldn't mind seeing it AVP-ABE-LAS now.
The routing most recently was ABE-MYR-RFD-LAS. A hell of a long flight on a 757 if you are going from ABE to LAS. Though the service was good. Free hot food in coach and of course those little games that the Hooters Girls play. Hooters was a fun little carrier to fly on, but I am happier with a real carrier like United that has connections to any number of destinations.
If you have never designed an airplane part before, let the real designers do the work!
Loisencroach From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 373 posts, RR: 5 Reply 17, posted (8 years 3 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 3906 times:
I agree. I think Hooters' departure will signal somebody else to enter the market. I don't think Bob O'Brien will let the RFD-ATL market go unnoticed without some courting. If it turns out that Hooters moves the RFD operation to Youngstown, I would be even happier. Youngstown really needs any service they can get, and if Hooters doesn't want the competition, that's the perfect place to go.
Tornado82 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 19, posted (8 years 3 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 3846 times:
Quoting RoseFlyer (Reply 16): The routing most recently was ABE-MYR-RFD-LAS. A hell of a long flight on a 757 if you are going from ABE to LAS
Actually, it wasn't a 757 until you got to MYR, I believe. It was a 732 from here to MYR, regardless, alot easier to either pay the little extra money to fly legacies with only one stop in a more hospitable-for-connections airport, or drive out to EWR/PHL for significantly cheaper direct flights.
Access-Air From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 1939 posts, RR: 14 Reply 23, posted (8 years 3 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 3481 times:
Well I can see Hooters pulling their flights....It was stupid to take down their flights to just one one-way departure on thursdays with no return until Sunday...
I think that I would have liked to have see then Keep Denver and Atlanta and Myrtle Beach. The New United service with "Barbie Jets" will be no where as comfortable as the 737 Hooters flew to Denver. Now the only thing RFD will have for service are two daily flights to DTW, two to DEN and then Allegiant to LAS and SFB.
United needs to drop a 737 or Airbus into Rockford instead of thise pukey little CRJs. The traffic is there, especially if they would be feeding a airport full of possible connections. If Hooters pulled out of the market RFD-DEN it was probably because they didnt have any online connections as United will. All their traffic was O&D. Hopefully the CRJs will be a temporary thing and they will put full size jets on the route.
I would also love to see a AIR TRAN come into Rockford. Forget Delta, theyd also use those God forsaken Brabie Jets too. 50 Seats are not enuff and they can easily over book them and cause pasengers all kinds of problems. Actually, I think that if Southwest poped into Rockford thatd be nice. Otherwise, RFD suffers from too close to Chicago and Milwaukee-itis and will never be any kind of secondary over flow airport. It will always be the Red-Headed Stepchild of airports in the area.