B742 From Spain, joined Mar 2005, 3708 posts, RR: 24 Reply 2, posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 824 times:
Quoting Soups (Reply 1): i believe they are the only US airline that currently flies to africa (Excluding codeshare)// not sure if World Airways is American
Yes World Airways and North American are the only US airlines to fly to Africa, but CO will introduce ACC and LOS soon! (Sorry if I didn't make it very clear in the first post!)
CO would be the biggest airline in Mexico. Than would come AA.
# Who has the biggest presence in Asia? NWA yea or UA one of the two
# Who has the biggest presence in South America? AA yes that is for sure
# Who has the biggest presence in Europe? For destinations CO has to be the winner but for PAX thats a hard one. DL or CO.
# Who has the biggest presence in Africa*? (CO, as ACC and LOS will be added?)
# Who has the biggest presence in Australia/Pacific? UA yes only one who flys down under
# Who has the biggest presence in Mexico? CO
# Who has the biggest presence in Canada? I would say NW
# Who has the biggest presence in the Caribbean? AA that is a given with their SJU hub
# Who has the biggest presence in the USA? DL yea that would be my guess too but CO and AA are large too. All these airlines are huge in the US ofcourse.
# Who has the biggest presence in Eastern Europe? (DL?)
# Who has the biggest presence in the UK? AA Yea I would say AA also flying many 777s in everyday into LHR and also flights to MAN,LGW and Glasglow
# Who has the biggest presence in Germany? DL Yea with there partnership with LU.
"It was just four of us on the flight deck, trying to do our job" (Captain Al Haynes)
SESGDL From United States, joined Jan 2001, 2663 posts, RR: 17 Reply 4, posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 746 times:
# Who has the biggest presence in Asia? NW/UA
# Who has the biggest presence in South America? AA
# Who has the biggest presence in Europe? DL, at least after expansion
# Who has the biggest presence in Africa*? None for now, soon CO
# Who has the biggest presence in Australia/Pacific? UA
# Who has the biggest presence in Mexico? CO
# Who has the biggest presence in Canada? NW
# Who has the biggest presence in the Caribbean? AA
# Who has the biggest presence in the USA? AA/DL
# Who has the biggest presence in Eastern Europe? DL
# Who has the biggest presence in the UK? AA
# Who has the biggest presence in Germany? UA
Captaink From Mexico, joined May 2001, 4339 posts, RR: 15 Reply 5, posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 702 times:
# Who has the biggest presence in Asia? NW/UA
# Who has the biggest presence in South America? AA
# Who has the biggest presence in Europe? DL, at least after expansion
# Who has the biggest presence in Africa*? None for now, soon CO
# Who has the biggest presence in Australia/Pacific? UA
# Who has the biggest presence in Mexico? CO
# Who has the biggest presence in Canada? NW
# Who has the biggest presence in the Caribbean? AA/US
# Who has the biggest presence in the USA? AA/DL
# Who has the biggest presence in Eastern Europe? DL
# Who has the biggest presence in the UK? AA
# Who has the biggest presence in Germany? UA
Depends on the metric. CO flies to the most cities, but AA carries the most passengers, and DL has the most RPMs. However, by next year, DL will probably lead in all three categories.
Aces727 From Colombia, joined Oct 2005, 135 posts, RR: 0 Reply 8, posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 622 times:
AA rules in
Latin America, (excluding Mexico)
They fly to:
Guatemala
San Salvador
Tegucigalpa
San Pedro
Managua
San Jose
Panama
Medellin
Bogota
Cali
Caracas
Maracaibo
Lima
Quito
Guayaquil
La Paz
Santa Cruz
Sao Paulo
Rio de Janeiro
Buenos Aires
Santiago
Db373 From United States, joined Sep 2005, 215 posts, RR: 1 Reply 11, posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 546 times:
Quoting Commavia (Reply 7): Within the U.S., WN carries the most passengers.
Well, he didn't list WN as one of his majors, but this is a statistic that's really hard to believe. I'm not saying it's false, I'm just saying it's amazing that an airline that only flies 737's to non-major airports has been able to achieve the feet of carrying the most passengers in the US. Guess people really do like low fares....
N200WN From United States, joined Feb 2005, 720 posts, RR: 9 Reply 12, posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 525 times:
Quoting Db373 (Reply 11): Well, he didn't list WN as one of his majors, but this is a statistic that's really hard to believe. I'm not saying it's false, I'm just saying it's amazing that an airline that only flies 737's to non-major airports has been able to achieve the feet of carrying the most passengers in the US. Guess people really do like low fares....
The last time I heard, this was still true (remember we're speaking only of domestic US). I also believe that WN has the most daily domestic departures, at 3010 (Mon-Fri) in the current schedule, with DL second.
Now back to the poster's original question, NOT counting WN, who carries the most domestic pax?
Commavia From United States, joined Apr 2005, 6767 posts, RR: 59 Reply 13, posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 514 times:
Quoting Letsgetwet (Reply 9): If I'm not mistaken CO flies to about 31 Mexican airports , AA flies to about 8.
Continental may fly to dozens of cities in Mexico, but American still carries more passengers, as most of Continental's presence in Mexico is with Continental Express. American has more seats to Mexico, and carries more people there, than Continental. This is just a fact. This is largely due to the fact that whereas the average Continental flight to Mexico has around 80 seats on it, the average American flight to Mexico has around 140. So, in essence, each time American sends an A300 on JFK-CUN or MIA-MEX, for example, it is essentially carrying the equivelant of almost 6 RJs that Continental might send from Houston down to Mexican airports.
Quoting Db373 (Reply 11): Well, he didn't list WN as one of his majors, but this is a statistic that's really hard to believe. I'm not saying it's false, I'm just saying it's amazing that an airline that only flies 737's to non-major airports has been able to achieve the feet of carrying the most passengers in the US. Guess people really do like low fares....
Several points: first, believe it, because it's true. Southwest now carries more passengers within the United States than any other airline. American is #2, Delta is #3. Further, while Southwest does only fly 737s, they hardly serve only "non-major airports." While they do fly to many secondary metro airports, they also fly to Chicago-Midway, hardly a non-major airport, to LAX, to Orlando, to Las Vegas, etc.
Burnsie28 From United States, joined Aug 2004, 6235 posts, RR: 16 Reply 16, posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 502 times:
Quoting Commavia (Reply 7): AA is #1 to Canada among U.S. carriers.
How so?
American Serves
Vancouver (Mainline)
Calgary (Mainline)
Toronto (Mainline/Eagle)
Montreal (Mainline/Eagle)
Ottawa (Eagle)
Halifax (Eagle)
Northwest serves
Vancouver (Mainline)
Edmonton (Mainline)
Calgary (Mainline)
Winnipeg (Mainline)
Regina (Airlink)
Saskatoon (Mainline)
Regina (Airlink)
Thunder Bay (Airlink)
London (Airlink)
Kitchener (Airlink)
Toronto (Mainline)
Ottawa (Airlink)
Montreal (Mainline)
Quebec (Airlink)
Halifax (Airlink)
Charlottetown (Airlink)
"Some People Just Know How To Fly"- Best slogan ever, RIP NW 1926-2009
Apparently, some continue to regard the number of cities an airline flies to as an accurate measure or reflection of the relative market presence of the airline in that given market, whereas the industry has generally disregarded this measurement in favor of more accurate, reflective metrics like ASMs, capacity, etc.
In terms of the number of available seats in the market, based on my own calculations from the six largest U.S. airlines' schedules to Canada, American (together with Eagle) is the largest airline with a total of 40,275 weekly seats, and 417 weekly departures. Second is Northwest (31,597 weekly seats, 387 weekly flights). Next comes United at 30,550 weekly seats and 346 weekly flights. Some of these numbers may very well be somewhat out of date.
Nonetheless, I doubt that since I calculated these numbers, Northwest has added 8,678 weekly seats to their Canada schedule, or conversly that American has eliminated that man seats. Furthermore, American must operate at a 78% load factor overall to Canada to carry as many people as Northwest if it was operating at a 100% loadfactor to the country to the north. I doubt that is happening.
In summary, American has the most flights, and the most weekly seats, to Canada from the United States. It may not serve the most cities, but that has a poor reflection of an airline's relative size in a given market.
SESGDL From United States, joined Jan 2001, 2663 posts, RR: 17 Reply 18, posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 407 times:
Quoting Commavia (Reply 13):
Several points: first, believe it, because it's true. Southwest now carries more passengers within the United States than any other airline. American is #2, Delta is #3. Further, while Southwest does only fly 737s, they hardly serve only "non-major airports." While they do fly to many secondary metro airports, they also fly to Chicago-Midway, hardly a non-major airport, to LAX, to Orlando, to Las Vegas, etc.
Delta is larger than American within the United States. faa.gov or whatever the site is has DL listed as #2 behind WN, AA is a close 3rd.
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