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Where Will EK Send The 772LR?  
User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21416 posts, RR: 60
Posted (8 years 5 months 11 hours ago) and read 6188 times:

LAX, MIA, Texas, MEX, and some cities in South America are really the only places that need the range. Any thoughts on which 4-5 cities will get non-stop service to DXB?


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User currently offlineAtmx2000 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 4576 posts, RR: 38
Reply 1, posted (8 years 5 months 11 hours ago) and read 6171 times:

Quoting Ikramerica (Thread starter):
LAX, MIA, Texas, MEX, and some cities in South America are really the only places that need the range. Any thoughts on which 4-5 cities will get non-stop service to DXB?

EK wants to turn DXB into a cargo hub as well, so they might be buying it for payload as well.



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User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21416 posts, RR: 60
Reply 2, posted (8 years 5 months 11 hours ago) and read 6149 times:

Still doesn't change my question, as most other places they want to fly are well within the range of the 773ER, A346 or A380 and the cities would want to be served by those larger aircraft.


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User currently offlineSQ325 From Germany, joined Jul 2001, 1447 posts, RR: 7
Reply 3, posted (8 years 5 months 11 hours ago) and read 6104 times:

I think most likely EK will us the 772ER not only on ultra long haul flights.
They use A345 on the ZRH-DXB sector!!! Which doesn't really fit.
But i would say ORD might be a possible new destination.
Also keep in mind that Emirates asked to double their current Australia connections so i assume we will also see the B772ER on more nonstop flights to Aus and NZ


User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21416 posts, RR: 60
Reply 4, posted (8 years 5 months 10 hours ago) and read 6079 times:

I think you mean LR, but I get it.

Why do they use the 345 to ZRH? Seems like such a waste.



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User currently offlineSQ325 From Germany, joined Jul 2001, 1447 posts, RR: 7
Reply 5, posted (8 years 5 months 10 hours ago) and read 6055 times:

Sorry I mixed that up.
I think they to it because they don't have enough A332 for those flights. And maybe they do it to introduce their new C class to Europe because the A332 and B772 so far I know they all have the old C class, which i think has some disadvantages compared to the new C class of LH and BA their biggest competitors in Europe.


User currently offlineNZ107 From New Zealand, joined Jul 2005, 6335 posts, RR: 39
Reply 6, posted (8 years 5 months 10 hours ago) and read 6014 times:

What's the demand for NZ-DXB?

Quoting SQ325 (Reply 3):
Also keep in mind that Emirates asked to double their current Australia connections so i assume we will also see the B772ER on more nonstop flights to Aus and NZ

DXB-PER-AKL would be nice. I'd say that the 772ER wouldn't be doing those direct flights, most likely go through another asian city like KUL or HKG possibly..?



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User currently offlineAussie747 From Australia, joined Aug 2003, 1162 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (8 years 5 months 10 hours ago) and read 5966 times:

DXB-AKL
DXB-LAX
DXB-EZE; probably just to name a few.

It may replace current A345 routes to Australia.


User currently offlineGkirk From UK - Scotland, joined Jun 2000, 24811 posts, RR: 56
Reply 8, posted (8 years 5 months 10 hours ago) and read 5953 times:

Quoting Aussie747 (Reply 7):
It may replace current A345 routes to Australia.

I assume EK will get rid of the A345?



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User currently offlineN328KF From United States of America, joined May 2004, 6482 posts, RR: 3
Reply 9, posted (8 years 5 months 9 hours ago) and read 5897 times:

Quoting Gkirk (Reply 8):
I assume EK will get rid of the A345?

Who knows, maybe they'll start leasing out their red-headed airframes.



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User currently offlineJetMaster From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (8 years 5 months 9 hours ago) and read 5893 times:

Quoting SQ325 (Reply 3):
They use A345 on the ZRH-DXB sector!!! Which doesn't really fit.



Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 4):
Why do they use the 345 to ZRH? Seems like such a waste.

I was told recently that a Swiss company (with intense business activities in the UAE) signed a contract with EK to occupy a fixed number of First Class suites on the EK A345 service - as an alternative to using a corporate jet.


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User currently offlineAlitaliaMD11 From Spain, joined Dec 2003, 4068 posts, RR: 14
Reply 11, posted (8 years 5 months 7 hours ago) and read 5678 times:

Well now that JFK is a twice daily flight (I think?) I bet that we will see the 777-200LR operating one of the flights next to the A340-500.


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User currently offlineLeelaw From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (8 years 5 months 7 hours ago) and read 5656 times:

From WSJ 11/20/05:

"...Emirates said it hoped to use the Boeing 777 to develop more European and Asian routes. The 777-200LR is the model Boeing used earlier this month to set a world distance record flying nonstop from Hong Kong to London by traveling across the U.S., covering a distance of 13,422 statute miles in 22 hours, 42 minutes. It will also allow Emirates to start nonstop flights to long-range destinations on the U.S. West coast and in South America, said Sheikh Ahmed."


User currently offlineJuventus From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 2835 posts, RR: 2
Reply 13, posted (8 years 5 months 5 hours ago) and read 5497 times:

42 more 777s, 41 A380s? Hell. I knew the oil business was good, but not that good. Where is it that they plan on going?

User currently offlineA360 From Portugal, joined Jun 2005, 434 posts, RR: 8
Reply 14, posted (8 years 5 months 5 hours ago) and read 5495 times:

MEX and SCL would be nice 772LR destinations.
Those are out of range for 346/77W/388, and even for the 345, the MEX-DXB for example(due to MEX altitude), would be very complicated.... so, those are the places for the 772LR to be.  Wink

Regards:
A360


User currently offlineRayChuang From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 7929 posts, RR: 5
Reply 15, posted (8 years 5 months 5 hours ago) and read 5488 times:

I can see EK fly DXB-SFO and DXB-LAX with the 777-200LR 5-6 times per week, and DXB-IAH daily.  Smile

User currently offlineDrerx7 From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 5062 posts, RR: 8
Reply 16, posted (8 years 5 months 5 hours ago) and read 5484 times:

LAX, SFO, MIA, IAH, ORD are what I think of.


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User currently offlineA360 From Portugal, joined Jun 2005, 434 posts, RR: 8
Reply 17, posted (8 years 5 months 5 hours ago) and read 5478 times:

As for north america cities... they will send it too for sure, but I bet they intend to send the 380 to cities like NY, Chicago, San Francisco or maybe even LA, if the range allows it.
I might be wrong here, but they will have to send their 380's somewhere, and I think EK wants to expand heavily in the US in the next years...

Regards:
A360


User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21416 posts, RR: 60
Reply 18, posted (8 years 5 months 5 hours ago) and read 5467 times:

Quoting Leelaw (Reply 12):
From WSJ 11/20/05:

Well, duh. That's just a statement regarding range.

My question was WHICH west coast and south american routes?

As for Australia, there is just no need to put the 345 or 772LR on that when the 773ER and A380 will do it.



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User currently offlineLeelaw From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (8 years 5 months 5 hours ago) and read 5449 times:

Quoting A360 (Reply 17):
As for north america cities... they will send it too for sure, but I bet they intend to send the 380 to cities like NY, Chicago, San Francisco or maybe even LA, if the range allows it.

If not LAX and SFO, what other West Coast U.S. cities does Sheikh Ahmed have in mind for the 772LR, given his statement earlier today?


User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21416 posts, RR: 60
Reply 20, posted (8 years 5 months 5 hours ago) and read 5434 times:

Quoting A360 (Reply 17):
cities like NY, Chicago, San Francisco or maybe even LA, if the range allows it.

SFO and LAX are pushing range of A380 as it stands.

DXB to LAS on the 772LR would be lucrative, with lots of premium seats sold, no?



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User currently offlineLeelaw From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (8 years 5 months 5 hours ago) and read 5415 times:

Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 20):
DXB to LAS on the 772LR would be lucrative, with lots of premium seats sold, no?

Perhaps, but i don't think the Sheikhs fly commercial.  Wink


User currently offlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 29680 posts, RR: 84
Reply 22, posted (8 years 5 months ago) and read 5158 times:
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Quoting JetMaster (Reply 10):
I was told recently that a Swiss company (with intense business activities in the UAE) signed a contract with EK to occupy a fixed number of First Class suites on the EK A345 service - as an alternative to using a corporate jet.

That was my guess, considering the "boutique" nature of the F cabin on that plane. Considering how...pedestrian...EK's 773ER F product is, I wonder if they will do that on the 772LR, leaving the A345s for the handful of routes that generate serious F fares, or if they will add the suites to the 772LR, as well, and "retire" the A345s.


User currently offlineBG777300ER From Bulgaria, joined Mar 2005, 249 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (8 years 5 months ago) and read 5122 times:

What about IAD? Also, do any airlines plan on flying the A380 to IAD?


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User currently offlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 29680 posts, RR: 84
Reply 24, posted (8 years 5 months ago) and read 5096 times:
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Quoting BG777300ER (Reply 23):
What about IAD? Also, do any airlines plan on flying the A380 to IAD?

LH might want to, to connect up to UA's domestic network from there. Of course, moonbuggying it to an A388 will be...amusing.  Smile

One of these days, IAD will rebuild Piers C and D, and I expect they will be A380-compliant as part of the proposal.


25 LAXDESI : Shouldn't Detroit be high on the list given that it has the largest concentration of Arab Americans in US?
26 IADBGO : I was just thinking IAD myself. It makes sense. There seems to be alot of Middle Eastern business etc in the area. I've been surprised at how little t
27 Ikramerica : No doubt. They have private suites on permanent reserve at the top hotels and jet in all the time doing all the things that it isn't okay to do in th
28 TinkerBelle : What kind of product?
29 Post contains links Ikramerica : Ridiculously sumptuous private F suites with giant television, minibar, and closable door. Better J product than the 773, and better Y than the 773.
30 Post contains images TinkerBelle : Woow, Thanx for the link. Now I really wanna fly EK on an ultra long haul.... I've heard the F/A's are hot too and the link kinda confirms it
31 SFORunner : How about some math? Factoring in maintenance needs, how many city pairs can you serve with 10 LR's assuming you're pushing at least 90% of maximum ra
32 MD90fan : What about MIA and MCO as well as LAX, SFO and IAH?
33 AirNaskar380 : My Uncle who works in airport operations at IAD told me so far Lufthansa is the only airline sending the 380 so far.
34 Post contains images A360 : Don't want to start a endless discussion about the range of the A380, but if it meet performance specs SFO shouldn't be to hard, taking into acount t
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