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UA To Start New RJ Focus City  
User currently offlineIowaman From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4432 posts, RR: 6
Posted (9 years 3 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 15319 times:
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I thought I would post there is a new RJ "focus city" someplace in the south. I was kind of waiting for a PR, but I'll let you guys try and guess where it is. All I'll say is it's in the south, and yes it is confirmed. I've seen the schedules myself. I'll go ahead and hint it is a WN city with a major AA/CO presence. I am still surprised as to why they would do this. Some of the new flights are once daily with some twice daily to the new cities from this southern city. I'm not talking a huge focus city, but they are some very strange destinations IMO.

Edit: For you UA employees lets try and keep everyone guessing.

[Edited 2005-11-22 15:27:34]

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User currently offlineBoeing757/767 From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 2282 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (9 years 3 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 15275 times:

RDU is a WN city with large AA presence. (?)


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User currently offlineInTheSky74 From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 546 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (9 years 3 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 15221 times:

RDU doesn't have a large CO presence.

Maybe HOU?

That would be wierd though.

Rob


User currently offlineMikey711MN From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 1403 posts, RR: 8
Reply 3, posted (9 years 3 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 15193 times:

Quoting Iowaman (Thread starter):
it is a WN city with a major AA/CO presence

Sounds like AUS to me!!!  Smile



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User currently offlineBigGSFO From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 2951 posts, RR: 6
Reply 4, posted (9 years 3 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 15172 times:

Actually probably not UA themselves but one of their regional partners since UA technically doesn't own RJ's.

So did management sit around a table and say "hey we like what Independance Air is doing at Dulles with their RJ's. Let's do something like that only in a smaller city and go head-to-head with the three majors who are strong enough to not file bankruptcy: WN, CO and our buddies at AA."  Smile


User currently offlineIowaman From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4432 posts, RR: 6
Reply 5, posted (9 years 3 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 15133 times:
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Quoting BigGSFO (Reply 4):
Actually probably not UA themselves but one of their regional partners

Correct, it is a regional partner (except some of the hub flights, they will remain mainline.)


User currently offlineMD90fan From Bahamas, joined Jul 2005, 2931 posts, RR: 7
Reply 6, posted (9 years 3 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 15091 times:

BNA, RDU, AUS are my guesses well its nice to finally here some new UA/UAX announcements  Smile


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User currently offlineJamake1 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 1023 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (9 years 3 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 15047 times:

Me thinks it's probably New Orleans...


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User currently offlineUA744Flagship From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (9 years 3 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 15010 times:

I'm surprised this got out... this is supposed to be very hush hush. I.E. I can't even post anything about it. However, I will say that none of the guesses so for are correct.

User currently offlineBAW2198 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 637 posts, RR: 4
Reply 9, posted (9 years 3 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 14998 times:

Well, I'll try

OKC
MCO
BNA
LIT



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User currently offlineUA744Flagship From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (9 years 3 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 14992 times:

Nope, nope, nope and nope.

User currently offlineModernArt From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (9 years 3 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 14965 times:

I'll play....

Austin or San Antonio perhaps.


User currently offlineKiwiandrew From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 8625 posts, RR: 13
Reply 12, posted (9 years 3 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 14949 times:
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if it's all RJ's ( which aren't limited by the Wright Amendment because they are under the seating cap ) it could be DAL - yes , I know that AA are at DFW rather than DAL - but it is still the same city ( sort of )


hmmmm , wonder what is going on - would Iowaman care to give us a time frame ?



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User currently offlineJFKLGANYC From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 3621 posts, RR: 6
Reply 13, posted (9 years 3 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 14922 times:

Perhaps DFW or IAH??? Right to the dragon's lair we go!

PJ


User currently offlineWidgetBoi From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 1432 posts, RR: 19
Reply 14, posted (9 years 3 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 14920 times:

damn, modernart beat me to it  Sad

anyway, i'm thinking it's either san antonio or el paso.

[Edited 2005-11-22 16:11:41]

User currently offlineIowaman From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4432 posts, RR: 6
Reply 15, posted (9 years 3 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 14902 times:
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Quoting UA744Flagship (Reply 8):
I'm surprised this got out... this is supposed to be very hush hush. I.E. I can't even post anything about it. However, I will say that none of the guesses so for are correct.

That's why I'm not saying what city, the new flights are loaded on www.united.com, so it is public information, but I'll let the public find them.


User currently offlineCOSPN From Northern Mariana Islands, joined Oct 2001, 1651 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (9 years 3 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 14902 times:

SAT ?????????????///////////////////////////////////////////////

User currently offlineUA744Flagship From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (9 years 3 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 14885 times:

True, it is in Apollo already... ding ding ding ding... we have some winners.

User currently offlineAtrude777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 5702 posts, RR: 52
Reply 18, posted (9 years 3 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 14850 times:

Quoting JFKLGANYC (Reply 13):
Perhaps DFW or IAH??? Right to the dragon's lair we go!

You didn't read.....its gotta be a WN airport too so DFW and IAH are out. You could try HOU instead of IAH and DAL instead of DFW, however....it isnt those as said before.

Quoting MD90fan (Reply 6):
BNA, RDU, AUS are my guesses well its nice to finally here some new UA/UAX announcements

RDU is not South.

Alex

[Edited 2005-11-22 16:16:23]


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User currently offlineIowaman From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4432 posts, RR: 6
Reply 19, posted (9 years 3 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 14817 times:
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Quoting Kiwiandrew (Reply 12):
hmmmm , wonder what is going on - would Iowaman care to give us a time frame ?

They start March 3rd.


User currently offlineBigGSFO From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 2951 posts, RR: 6
Reply 20, posted (9 years 3 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 14803 times:

I am guessing AUS. Good luck to them. Texas will be a tough nut to crack. AA, CO and WN will push them right out.

User currently offlineIowaman From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4432 posts, RR: 6
Reply 21, posted (9 years 3 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 14705 times:
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There is also another certain city in the south that is getting an oddball flight, or at least an oddball IMO.

User currently offlineAAtakeMeAway From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 325 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (9 years 3 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 14702 times:

I believe it is SAT. I tried some random routes and MCI-SAT, OKC-SAT and TUL-SAT are non-stop flights on 3/4/05   

[Edited 2005-11-22 16:29:54]

User currently offlineIADLHR From Italy, joined Apr 2005, 735 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (9 years 3 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 14647 times:

There are also some nonstop flights ABQ-SAT turning up too.

User currently offlineCOSPN From Northern Mariana Islands, joined Oct 2001, 1651 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (9 years 3 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 14601 times:

Thank You  Smile

UA6535 SATLAX
UA6531

UA6379 SATSFO

UA7232 SATIAD

MMMM Interesting Cats outa the bag so might as well tell all...


25 OzarkD9S : Tell someone from North Carolina they don't live in "The South" and see what reaction you get.
26 Iowaman : True, but I guess I wouldn't consider N.C. the South.
27 ModernArt : Those are already existing COSPN. Wow, just unbelievable for SAT.
28 Iowaman : Those flights already exsist on OO/Mesa.
29 Trvlr : How completely strange. Which regional carrier is operating these flights? Are they contract routes for United, or is this more of a "unilateral" netw
30 Jayspilot : well it is in the reservations systems on ual.com this is an attempt by ual to find homes for the Freedom ERJ's they are getting from the usair system
31 PlaneGuy27 : 2x MSY-SAT just found as well
32 Luv2fly : Well being from Ohio once we hit KY anything below is the South to us.
33 Iowaman : There is another MSY route also.
34 Aggieflyboi04 : humm are SAT and AUS becoming the new battlegrounds in Texas now?
35 Iowaman : I don't think there are any new AUS flights. I must say I'm surprised UA would launch this in the heart of WN/AA/CO territory, they are basically goi
36 Trvlr : Dunno about the motives, but I just saw the ERJs too--it must not be SkyWest then. Aaron G.
37 ModernArt : Add Colorado Springs
38 United1 : Omaha has a new non stop....UA 7465
39 UA744Flagship : Wrong. This is similar to a recent agreement with a newer UAX carrier and is not like the other agreements in place with SkyWest, Mesa, Republic, etc
40 DAYflyer : This is why UA is bankrupt. Indy Air just tried this and they are going to be auctioned off. Pure stupidity on UA's part.
41 Aggieflyboi04 : I was referring to the new JFK/BOS-AUS routes being launched by B6 in Jan
42 Stirling : Using historical lines for regional definitions...North Carolina was on the side of the Confederacy during the Civil War. Most companies I know, and
43 Iowa744Fan : The new routes that they are doing are: 2x daily to New Orleans (MSY) 1x daily to Kansas City (MCI) 1x daily to Omaha (OMA) 2x daily to Albuquerque (A
44 146CREW : where is the new focus city and who is the regional operator?
45 SHUPirate1 : That should be a giveaway that it's Trans-States...
46 CALMSP : what will be the retaliation on CO/AA/WN's part???
47 RIOJANEIRO : This RJ focus city seems to make little sense at all. If I had time, I'd look up some more specifics, but a few questions keep nagging me : 1. Entrenc
48 Kahala777 : San Antonio to: **Albuquerque** 810am-900am 131pm-220pm Chicago.ORD 715am-959am 205pm-445pm 525pm-805pm **Colorado Springs** 635pm-745pm Denver 625am-
49 Apodino : I am looking these up in apollo and I show nothing but CO and AA flights on these city pairs. Are we sure its one of these tx cities? And when is this
50 Iowaman : Good question, WN already has over 40 daily departures out of SAT, and CO has multiple IAH/EWR mainline and Express Jet to CLE. AA obviously has mult
51 Drerx7 : These routes are a little wierd--not to mention Southwest heavy--could this be a halfhearted attempt to strike back at WN for coming to DEN?
52 Post contains links ModernArt : San Antonio's economy is hardly lackluster. Here's an article from the SA Biz Journal from this week entitled "Economists say city is at the threshol
53 MrSTL : It looks like a smaller STL style focus city to me- something Trans States knows well and can do cheaply. I think they are getting the RJ's from reduc
54 Gigneil : What exactly the hell is United thinking with this? Unless this is a very specific response to a contract request from the new AT&T (now the largest c
55 Iowaman : March 3rd. Haha that would be interesting.
56 Iowa744Fan : The other "oddball" route is MSY-OKC 1x daily.
57 Bicoastal : There's a big difference. Indy tried it with its own metal and staff. United is doing it through its Express contract carriers at a significantly red
58 UAcosCS : Try the 3rd of March for COS-SAT Bingo
59 Post contains images Iowaman : Good job! Haha, I wonder the same thing, SAT-COS I would think would almost be eating away somewhat on there SAT-DEN traffic. Also if this was an att
60 N723GW : Its not in the south, but the other day, I heard on WBBM that they were going to make RFD an RJ hub...
61 UA744Flagship : This is not necessarily retaliation for WN's DENtrance. If you look at the cities served, note that currently the best options are WN one-stops. And i
62 Iowaman : I just would of thought UA could of picked somewhere where there name is actually known and not where they are in the territory of CO/AA/WN. That wou
63 ERJ170 : RDU is indeed South. No ifs, ands, or buts about it. Period. NC is south, meaning "South of the Mason Dixon line" which is between Maryland and Delaw
64 UAL777 : UA744Flagship is right. Go look at the fares on WN out of SAT. They are NOT cheap. I can fly cheaper on CO/AA SAT-BHM than I can on WN. Its cheaper by
65 Joeljack : This is very interesting. Being familiar with the Omaha market, there are only about 35 people flying each way between SAT and OMA. Saying that this i
66 Post contains images Iowaman : Sorry every announcement doesn't include new RDU service. I agree, there are much better city pairs they could launch such as that one that would mak
67 Tornado82 : Is that efficiently possible with a CRJ, or what kind of penalties are we talking here? Especially westbound into the winter winds.
68 Uadc8contrail : tornado, maybe ual744 can give us a glimse but....uax flies the crj200 already from iad to mci..oma should be about the same miles or maybe a little
69 Iowaman : Not sure how efficent it is, but they do IAD-MSP with a CRJ, and 9E does MSP-ELP and did do MSP-TUS for NW. From To Distance IAD (38°56'40"N 77°27'
70 MSYtristar : Actually, MSY-SAT service was flown for quite a while by TWA. They used to run either a 72S or an M80 depending on the year. The flight routed SAT-MSY
71 Tornado82 : Call me a liar I guess. Although IAD does have a huge geographical advantage to this end of our country on EWR, what I was using as my baseline, think
72 UAL777 : I think we all need to bear in mind that from SAT, UA currently serves: SFO, LAX, DEN, ORD, and IAD. These new routes will allow connections from any
73 OOer : Might I add that many of those flights will be operated by Skywest CR7s which are much more cost-efficient compared to the CRJ200!!!! The rest I belie
74 Joeljack : United Also flies MCI-IAD with CRJ's, at least they did at first, they might have switched to E170's by now. This has to be around the same distance a
75 Iowaman : The only ones operated by Skywest CR7's are the hub routes. The new p2p routes are all E145's.
76 Planespotting : Omaha...interesting. If the University of Iowa gets a bid to the Alamo Bowl (In San Antonio) UA could easily support a non stop CID/DSM-SAT flight for
77 Post contains images ERJ170 : No new service announcement has been mentioned about RDU lately so I don't think that has anything to do with it. But please excuse me for piping in
78 Stlgph : I suspect these ERJ's will be coming from the UAL Express routes currently flown by Trans States that will succumb to the Go Jets operations over the
79 Skedguy : This has to be one of the most bewildering schedule developments I've seen in a long time. Nevermind that UA has no name in SAT compared to AA/CO/WN,
80 Tornado82 : Only if you fill the extra 20ish seats. What do you want? A320's connecting nothing to nowhere? Southwest already connects every landing strip in the
81 PlaneGuy27 : IAD-MSP is now a E170 on Shuttle America Actually the mason dixon line is between maryland and Pennsylvania technically
82 Post contains links PlaneGuy27 : United Airlines Expands Service into the U.S. Southwest Region Through United Express Partner Trans States Airlines Tuesday November 22, 3:00 pm ET ht
83 MAH4546 : MSY-OKC? Perfect for Hornets fans.
84 KELPkid : Bear in mind, people, that much of the traffic coming in and out of SAT is military related (5 Air Force Bases and 2 army forts!!!). The military used
85 Tornado82 : Yep, there's a sign for it on I-81 just north of the HGR airport which also sits right at the line. Likewise on various other highways between PA and
86 ERJ170 : True.. in addition, Delaware is still part of the North and not the South.
87 Iowaman : These still seem odd, Colorado Springs and Omaha just seem bizzare.
88 MDW22L31C : Will this be little like the EMD120 sevice out PDX..
89 ScottB : Nope. Historically, Delaware was considered a Southern state. Slavery was legal in Delaware before the War Between the States. I can't say that I get
90 ModernArt : Much of S.A.'s traffic is tourist and convention biz. But with 5 F-500s HQ'd in S.A., biz traffic is pretty healthy to boot along with the military.
91 PVD757 : FYI: This new flying will use 4 ERJ-145's including the MSY-OKC flight...
92 MSYtristar : The trick will be for UA to do some marketing the SAT area to get the word out. Hopefully they'll at least run some full page ads...maybe a billboard,
93 N1120A : Given that United is actually serving more destinations from MSY now as compares to before (no SFO, but adding OKC and SAT), and slowly upping frequen
94 Post contains links Thepilot : Check http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Antonio_International_Airport to see the new United routes beginning in 2006.
95 Atrude777 : Oh for the love of god, ok fine I am sorry for saying RDU is not south. I didn't realize there was a line for it or anything. I was reffering to locat
96 Tornado82 : Speak for yourself. Alot of travelers flying as singles would prefer the A seat in the ERJ. If you get out your laptop the guy next to you isn't read
97 Post contains images Mikey711MN : Yeah, I think I've seen that sign. -Mike
98 Hiflyer : Ok folks. Might be time to think for a second. Didn't UA buy one of those famous IBM beat up on Chess computers couple years back? Don't you think the
99 Stirling : What does this mean? What is like what? What is an "EMD120"? Service to where? That's what I'm thinking. San Antonio is one big honkin' city...with a
100 Post contains images MD90fan : I agree I still can't get over these announcements the MSY service is something out of a fantasy
101 RogerThat : Texas is not "in the south." As a former independent republic, Texas should not be lumped in with other states.
102 MD90fan : Maybe he meant Embraer EMB-120
103 BNinMSY : The SAT-MSY makes sense, considering the long standing ties between the two in hospitality industry; thousands of evacuees are in SA and some number i
104 Post contains images TWA902fly : No offense or anything, but Los Angeles is only about 120 miles south of RDU (and 2200 miles west) '902
105 Tornado82 : That's a bit of massaging the statistics. SAT, like other Texas Cities and cities in other states (Indiana comes to mind) have generous incorporation
106 SHUPirate1 : Note: This is written in the form of an open letter. Dear Mr. Tilton, Is a focus city supposed to mean that you serve the 18th, 20th, 26th, 31st, 34th
107 Stirling : I thought that too...but I still wonder what the point was that is trying to be made?
108 Post contains images Iowaman :
109 Post contains images A330323X : Whoa, slow down there, who said anything about these being cost-plus?
110 Stlgph : can't make an omelette without breaking a few eggs. i applaud the effort.
111 MIA : Orlando (MCO) would make a lot of sense to me.
112 UA744Flagship : The company is not paying AX a damn cent other than the additional SAT gate and SAT manpower, facilities and equipment. Cost plus? Where did you get t
113 MSYtristar : Hey, UA has to try something different. Perhaps having a few of these small "mini hubs" in select markets where they have previously not had much pres
114 SHUPirate1 : Doesn't a focus city, however, mean that the airline is actually focusing on some type of passenger from the city, rather than simply throwing darts
115 N200WN : Well, as someone who lives in San Antonio (and works for WN), I'm happy to see the new flights. I hope they are successful, though I'm doubtful of a f
116 Stlgph : and what do you exactly know about this? the air service has yet to even begin nor were you even able to get hired as a flight attendant. of course w
117 UA744Flagship : The company negotiated with the city to obtain a third gate. In the word's of Office Space's Milton: "ummm.... no...." Again, where did you get this
118 AS739X : Hiflyer/Stirling: I'm in this one with you. United is in a position they need to make a move with someone looking over it shoulder (creditors). They s
119 SHUPirate1 : Which passenger? The invisible one? The illusory one? The one who meant to book a trip to San Diego but typed in the wrong airport code and didn't no
120 SHUPirate1 : Unfortunately, as I alluded to above, that seems to be exactly the case. I would be absolutely shocked if, somewhere along the line, he did not sign
121 Stlgph : why? there's little chance of nonstop competition from anybody else on these routes. let them start here, build their market base and go from there.
122 SHUPirate1 : 11:35 AM, daily: Now boarding Midwest Airlines flight 156 with nonstop service to Kansas City! 5:05 PM, daily: Now boarding Midwest Airlines flight 5
123 Stlgph : big deal. so you've got another airline on one of the routes offering connections to cities to the east. of course if you think you can do a better jo
124 UA744Flagship : You should really look into applying for the position of Boyd consulting lapdog... what with all your in-depth analysis skills, I bet you could provi
125 Post contains links Jetdeltamsy : Could it be San Antonio??? United Airlines will launch new nonstop service between San Antonio International Airport and seven new markets early next
126 Mariner : Well, this is fun, isn't it? Is United planning on a re-run of Delta's "everywhere all the time" policy? I think Mr. Tilton (I can't call him "Glenn"
127 Post contains images PlanesNTrains : " target=_blank>http://www.bizjournals.com/sanantoni...rss=1 Correct guess, but it was answered in the previous posts. One thing that separates out th
128 JasonCRH : Why is this Shupirate so freaking angry? i have a friend at UA who was involved in the analytics behind this move. Essentially, this represents ZERO c
129 Centrair : I hope someday UA or regional will serve SHV. Its just a hope.
130 IADLHR : Years ago WN operated nonstop SAT-ABQ. I flew that route many times and while the plane was never full, there was a reasonably good load.However, even
131 Tornado82 : PHL: 1297nm BOS: 1530nm SEA: 1540nm FLL: 992nm SoCal area: 900+nm Bay area: 1260+nm An ERJ (unless it's one of CO's XR's) can't make some of those ro
132 ModernArt : Thanks for pointing out those distances Tornado. I was thinking the same thing when I read the disgruntled Pirate's post. Continental also ran ABQ-SAT
133 Post contains images SHUPirate1 : You didn't know? SHUP-irate? (that's not actually what it stands for, but it certainly has been misinterpreted that way in many instances on this sit
134 Tornado82 : Normal is 98.6... you must be suffering from hypothermia, lol. Get well though. The 70 seaters are higher-end products, hell, UA puts classes in them
135 Stlgph : there's an opportunity to make a quick buck.
136 Post contains links Mariner : Wow, I'm amazed. RJ's in general have high costs, and Independence Air could not make money with them - even with some Airbus reducing the CASM. Than
137 Clipper471 : At least four of the 11 flights will be through-plane service with a stop in SAT... #7455 ABQ-SAT-MSY #7456 MSY-SAT-OKC #7457 MSY-SAT-ABQ #7462 TUL-SA
138 Kahala777 : As would Las Vegas, Phoenix, New York, and Boston. Things are done for a reason, we may not be prevy to any answer. Just know one thing, the markets
139 Post contains links MaverickM11 : Boyd's take on the situation is quite level headed and thorough. http://www.airportsusa.com/snapshottemplate.htm
140 Post contains images FlyGuyClt : Y'all, we are indeed in the South. Safe Flying
141 UA744Flagship : Unusually so. Maverick, if you actually worked in this industry, you would know Boyd has absolutely zero credibility with anyone that matters. His cu
142 Cubsrule : Perhaps they are planning to bridge the aircraft in through MSY? I can't imagine they'd open a base for a whopping 4 planes, and OO currently has all
143 Ejmmsu : It seems to me that UA really has their eyes on MSY... maybe this is a place to hold some jets until MSY recovers some more....
144 MaverickM11 : I don't know what industry you're referring to but I work in the airline industry, and I have met Boyd a few times.
145 Post contains images MD90fan : Me too, along with BTR
146 Post contains images Lightsaber : Holy crap... This implies about equal per flight costs for a CR7 and A319! 70 seats * 12.87=$9.00/mile I'll assume 130 seats in the A319 * 5.86 *120%
147 TWA902fly : I have been saying this for years that an E70/CRJ etc hub at MSY would be perfect for United as that is the only part of the country they dont have a
148 SHUPirate1 : Yes, but that usually involves serving markets that people in that city want to fly to (Top 10, 20, etc. depending on how big you want that focus cit
149 UA744Flagship : Sure, we believe you... you sure don't act like it with your relentless bashing.
150 TxAgKuwait : I will join those who question whether there is enough traffic to warrant nonstops. Low fares will stimulate demand where demand is low, but it's toug
151 MaverickM11 : You don't believe what, that I'm in the airline industry or that I've met Boyd? And when have I bashed anything other than Ted?
152 Uadc8contrail : UA and US taking their sweet time in bankruptcy is probably doing more harm to the domestic aviation industry as a whole than would a Chapter 7 filing
153 MaverickM11 : If I knew, I'd be hired by UA and/or US. By "next disaster" I meant the next major challenge to the airline industry.
154 UA744Flagship : No you wouldn't; not with your attitude. In any case, this back and forth is not appropriate for this thread (I shouldn't have instigated, knowing th
155 MaverickM11 : Don't get mad because you can't take criticism of UA at all. Any criticism of your airline is "bashing" according to you. I'm not the biased one here
156 SHUPirate1 : UA744Flagship-I can only speak for myself, but I am not a United basher (in fact, I am a loyal United flier, usually flying United if I have to go to
157 Post contains links COEWR : Article The above linked article has some good information about the new RJ hub. I think they have a valid idea here, but I do not see why they chose
158 Thecamel67 : Back on topic... Since I grew up in SAT I am very happy to see the old hometown getting substantial new service but as with everyone else, I am very c
159 Post contains images Thecamel67 : On the article that everyone is linking to, lets not forget that The Boyd Group are the crazies that think the Wright Amendment has "outlived its purp
160 MaverickM11 : Again, the Boyd group is one of the few voices of levelheaded reason in that cluster.
161 SlcDeltaRUmd11 : LOL
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