Fbm3rd From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 162 posts, RR: 0 Posted (7 years 7 months 19 hours ago) and read 3852 times:
in 1998 i flew RDU-LGW an returned on LGW-MIA-RDU. on RDU-LGW I flew on a DC-10 (i am 99.9% sure) my questions.. 1) What a/c have AA flown RDU-LGW with (DC-10, 777, 767 any others?) 2) Also When and why did AA drop its MIA-LGW. As it stands on I think only DFW and RDU fly into LGW correct? And lastly when I flew LGW-MIA what a/c might I have been on. (I was young in 1998 so I dont remember But I do remember the DC-10).
BigGSFO From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 2762 posts, RR: 7 Reply 3, posted (7 years 7 months 18 hours ago) and read 3799 times:
Are you certain LGW-MIA was on AA? I believe AA never linked Miami and Gatwick; only Miami with Heathrow.
In 1998, RDU-LGW would have been an MD11 or 767. Weren't the DC10's gone by 1998? I do not think the T7 was put on that route until AA retired the last MD11's.
Quoting Fbm3rd (Thread starter): As it stands on I think only DFW and RDU fly into LGW correct?
You are correct. In addition there was a very brief period (post-TWA) where AA operated St. Louis-Gatwick with a 763.
AirScoot From United States of America, joined May 2005, 688 posts, RR: 2 Reply 4, posted (7 years 7 months 18 hours ago) and read 3784 times:
Quoting BigGSFO (Reply 3): Are you certain LGW-MIA was on AA? I believe AA never linked Miami and Gatwick; only Miami with Heathrow.
Both AA and BA had service to both London airports in the mid 90's. I'm trying to get the dates for when they dropped the LGW service from MIA.
I specifically remember the BA routings because we used to wholesale them. We'd have people use the MIA gateway because no matter where you were connecting beyond London you could get a same airport transfer if you left MIA.
ERJ170 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 6636 posts, RR: 19 Reply 6, posted (7 years 7 months 18 hours ago) and read 3751 times:
to the best of my recollection, AA initiated service RDU-LGW on a 767 and then upgraded to a 777. It has only flopped 2 or 3 times since the 777 came along, and it was always with a 763.
The AA 300 hasn't made schedule service at RDU unless it was for the SJU service (that I can't be sure).
Fbm3rd From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 162 posts, RR: 0 Reply 7, posted (7 years 7 months 18 hours ago) and read 3721 times:
Quoting Flymia (Reply 5): I am not sure if AA ever flew MIA-LGW
I was sure it was LGW-MIA. I know i have flow into MIA coming from london once in my life and the only time i left from LHR it was on UA to IAD therefore the other times it was leaving LGW on AA into MIA as well as BA into JFK... Am I going crazy b/c i am sure it was LGW-MIA????
AirScoot From United States of America, joined May 2005, 688 posts, RR: 2 Reply 8, posted (7 years 7 months 17 hours ago) and read 3702 times:
Quoting Fbm3rd (Reply 7): I was sure it was LGW-MIA. I know i have flow into MIA coming from london once in my life and the only time i left from LHR it was on UA to IAD therefore the other times it was leaving LGW on AA into MIA as well as BA into JFK... Am I going crazy b/c i am sure it was LGW-MIA????
You're not crazy.. it was AA. Still looking to find the service dates.
NYCAAer From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 660 posts, RR: 4 Reply 9, posted (7 years 7 months 17 hours ago) and read 3654 times:
American has never used the DC-10 nor the A300 on the RDU-LGW service. It was either a 767-200ER or a 767-300ER in 1998. I don't think the A300 was ever regularly scheduled for RDU service, not even from SJU or MIA. The DC-10 was used for services to RDU when it was still a hub, mostly domestic flying to Florida, ORD, LGA and SJU.
For a brief period in the late 90s, AA served LGW as well as LHR from MIA, with a 763. It wasn't profitable and only lasted for less than a year. At various times, AA has also flown to LGW from JFK (1991) and BOS (late '90s, can't remember exact dates), both of which were dropped and were of short duration.
Fbm3rd From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 162 posts, RR: 0 Reply 10, posted (7 years 7 months 17 hours ago) and read 3643 times:
Quoting NYCAAer (Reply 9): It was either a 767-200ER or a 767-300ER in 1998
I must dissagree. I am sure it was a DC-10 or at least a DC something. It was June 1998 if that helps anyone. I know it was not a B67 from RDU-LGW when i flew it. It was def. a DC. Can anyone back me up on this aspect?
NYCAAer From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 660 posts, RR: 4 Reply 11, posted (7 years 7 months 17 hours ago) and read 3617 times:
Our transatlantic 3-class DC-10s were retired in 1993. We still had DC-10s in the fleet after that, until around 2000, but they were 3-class DC-10-10s used on transcons, 2 class DC-10-10s used on other domestic routes, and 2-class DC-10-30s used on Hawaii routes and SJU.
The RDU base is very small, around 60 flight attendants, and no pilots are based there. The only trip flown currently by RDU F/As for years has been LGW, and it's always been a 767 until it was upgraded to a 777. The RDU-LGW are flown by pilots from other bases as a 6-day trip, so it was highly unlikely it was a DC-10, unless there was some really weird substitution of equipment. But I have colleagues who are based there, and have no recollection of them ever mentioning DC-10 service to LGW.
We did have the MD-11 until 2002, but none of the RDU F/As were qualified on that aircraft, unless they were based somewhere else where the MD-11 was used and transfered into the RDU base.
PRAirbus From Puerto Rico, joined Apr 2005, 1022 posts, RR: 1 Reply 12, posted (7 years 7 months 15 hours ago) and read 3536 times:
AA flew MIA-LGW on 763 seasonally a few years back. MIA-MAN is coming back next JAN/06 several times per week 763 too. No A300s ever to LGW from any US point unless there was a diversion, same for RDU. RDU-LGW is returning to 777 soon.
MAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 31155 posts, RR: 76 Reply 13, posted (7 years 7 months 15 hours ago) and read 3531 times:
In the summer of 1998, American Airlines attempted to offer both BOS-LGW and MIA-LGW along side BOS-LHR and MIA-LHR. The logic being that they already had a station at LGW, and limited slots at Heathrow, so why not? However, the yield on the BOS/MIA-LGW flights just didn't do.
Rdu777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 221 posts, RR: 1 Reply 21, posted (7 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 3079 times:
As said before A300s have never been used for scheduled service out of RDU. They've come in a few time on medical diversions, which I've been lucky enough to witness. I think the MD-11 is the only recent American equipment I never had a chance to see fly into RDU.
ERJ170,
You say a flight to CDG/ORY or FRA/MUC is in the works? Where did you find this information? I'd love to hear more about this. If its true and not some crazy rumor than I'm guessing it would be due to companies in RTP? Sounds too good to be true to me...
Fbm3rd From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 162 posts, RR: 0 Reply 22, posted (7 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 3074 times:
so has no one been able to confirm the DC from rdu-lgw in 1998...not even once???
Meechy36 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 311 posts, RR: 0 Reply 23, posted (7 years 6 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 3009 times:
Quoting PRAirbus (Reply 12): No A300s ever to LGW from any US point unless there was a diversion
This is incorrect, our BOS-LGW service was a 3 class A300. I worked that flight 5 times a month and it had individual IFE. The FAA required us to do a manual demo on that aircraft since bulkhead and exit row seats weren't allowed to have their IFE screens out for taxi. It also had games and all the flight attendants were VERY proficient at Tetris.
AireuropeF100 From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2005, 36 posts, RR: 0 Reply 24, posted (7 years 6 months 4 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 2896 times:
I'm sure in the Summer of '94 there was a daily flight by 763 LGW/ORD, only lasted for the summer, but I worked for Servisair check-in at the time and we had DFW,RDU,Nashville and ORD - but loads were bad so it finished mid September that year - if not sooner. I could be wrong but sure there was an ORD for a while at LGW
25 Fbm3rd: OK so i have my boarding passes... RDD-LGW flt. 174 June 19th dep. 7:15pm. Seat 36B (is there any way to sell the type of a/c from the boarding pass.
26 ERJ170: Heres what I know from reading different articles and things of the such. There is a new "committee" looking to subsidize flights to LAX, SFO, FRA, a
27 Tornado82: Well I hope to God it's all private dollars that are subsidizing it. Would be a shame to saddle any taxpayers with it for no reason with nearby CLT a
28 ERJ170: As stated above, there would be no taxpayer money for the subsidizing.. it would come from teh committee which includes local businesses, universities
29 Tornado82: Tax money right there. UNC = Durham = Public U, right? At least its your local tax money down there, waste it away how you please. SCASD's, such as t
30 ERJ170: True, UNC & NCSU are public universities. However, the major universities (UNC, NCSU, Duke) get FAR more money from grants, endowments, and donations
31 Tornado82: No doubt there are alot of endowments and whatnot. States across the board need to pay a closer watch to how their public universities run through th
32 ERJ170: RDU is not looking to be a hub or a major international player. But what RDUAA is trying to do is satisfy the public that uses the facilities and allo
33 Cltguy: What are the major German and/or French companies that you think would be interested in subsidzing RDU service.?
34 ERJ170: That I can not be sure of, Cltguy.. but here is a list of companies in RTP... and this does NOT include companies in Raleigh, Durham, Cary, Morrisvill
35 Cltguy: Good grief ERJ, I wasn't asking for a list of the RTP companies. I am very familiar with RTP. I used to work at Biogen. I was interested to know what
36 ERJ170: I dont know of any particular German and/or French companies, but most companies have some sort of EU ties.. and it is a conglomerate of several compa
37 MAH4546: Raleigh-Frankfurt has good potential to work on Lufthansa. Raleigh-Paris, however, will work when pigs can fly. Not even US Airways' Charlotte hub was
38 Tornado82: PIT is heavily courting that as well with the pharma/biotech in the city and its ties to FRA.
39 ERJ170: hehehee.. NCSU is working on that problem right now.. get your bacon, pork chops, eggs, and chicken wings off of one animal.. ahh.. got to love the w
40 Tornado82: If buffaloes already have wings, why not pigs too, lol.
41 ERJ170: Hahaha.. and those are some good wings too! Mmmm buffalo wings.. but seriously, those are the 2 areas in which most emphasis will be placed for intern
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