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How Many Airlines Still Use Tail Logo Lights?  
User currently offlineToTheStars From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 264 posts, RR: 0
Posted (8 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 15260 times:

I was wondering if there are any airlines still using the tail logo lights. I heard that they were invented by a TWA mechanic in MCI and I know that they were used at TWA until the AA (dis)integration, thats when they disconnected them. I always thought that they looked great. Do any airlines still use them?

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[Edited 2005-11-22 20:48:22]


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User currently offlineTristarSteve From Sweden, joined Nov 2005, 4000 posts, RR: 34
Reply 1, posted (8 years 9 months 1 week 3 days ago) and read 15241 times:

Looking around the ramp at ARN I would say that everyone has logo lights.

User currently offlineAirbuseric From Netherlands, joined Jan 2005, 4268 posts, RR: 51
Reply 2, posted (8 years 9 months 1 week 3 days ago) and read 15231 times:

Japan Airlines is using them for sure. But it really depends on who's the captain; not all turn their 'logo light' on Big grin

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User currently offlineSK601 From Belgium, joined Jun 2005, 976 posts, RR: 4
Reply 3, posted (8 years 9 months 1 week 3 days ago) and read 15213 times:

KL always uses the tail logo light. I like it!

User currently offlineSwabur From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 100 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (8 years 9 months 1 week 3 days ago) and read 15211 times:

Southwest uses them on the -700's, only because the 300's and 500's aren't equipped with them.


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User currently offlineBlrBird From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 578 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (8 years 9 months 1 week 3 days ago) and read 15165 times:

Couple of months ago I saw it on TG 325 it just looked great!


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User currently offlineERJ170 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 6763 posts, RR: 17
Reply 6, posted (8 years 9 months 1 week 3 days ago) and read 15151 times:

Tis funny cause when I see American Eagle, they usually always have their tail lights on.. but when I watch American mainline, they usually don't. At least at RDU. Go figure..


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User currently offlineA350 From Germany, joined Nov 2004, 1100 posts, RR: 22
Reply 7, posted (8 years 9 months 1 week 3 days ago) and read 15080 times:

Here in TXL most airliners use them. However, here it's worth it since it's over a city. Perhaps they are less popular on remote airports.

A350



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User currently offlineQFA380 From Australia, joined Jul 2005, 2062 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (8 years 9 months 1 week 3 days ago) and read 15046 times:

What exactly is the point? Is it just there to look pretty or for a more important reason?

QFA380


User currently offlineWrighbrothers From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2005, 1875 posts, RR: 9
Reply 9, posted (8 years 9 months 1 week 3 days ago) and read 15045 times:

I know BA use them on their aircrafts

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User currently offlineLemurs From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 1439 posts, RR: 4
Reply 10, posted (8 years 9 months 1 week 3 days ago) and read 15015 times:

Quoting QFA380 (Reply 8):
What exactly is the point? Is it just there to look pretty or for a more important reason?

Just that...to show off your logo. Remember the best billboard for a lot of airlines are their airplanes. Nothing like looking up and seeing a logo to know an airline flies to your city...



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User currently offlineToTheStars From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 264 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (8 years 9 months 1 week 3 days ago) and read 14983 times:

Quoting QFA380 (Reply 8):
What exactly is the point? Is it just there to look pretty or for a more important reason?

QFA380

I would think that they make the aircraft more visible when taxiing as well as being a great advertising tool. I know that here in STL, I never see an AA mainline aircraft with them lit.



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User currently offlineFLAIRPORT From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (8 years 9 months 1 week 3 days ago) and read 14974 times:

I believe B6 uses them and I think DL has them, but doesn't use them often.

User currently offlineYYZatcboy From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 1081 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (8 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 14789 times:
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AC uses them. It is usefull at night to tell what Aircraft it might be. (AC has Airbus and WJ has boeing 737's. hard to tell apart at night.)


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User currently offlineMarshalN From Hong Kong, joined Sep 2005, 1521 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (8 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 14703 times:

Maybe AA is too ashamed of their ugly livery.

I remember seeing CO aircrafts with the lights on.


User currently offlineFriendlySkies From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 4105 posts, RR: 5
Reply 15, posted (8 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 14655 times:

UA uses them at ORD...all the 170s and most of the Tri-seven tails I could see at the C gates were lit up.

User currently offlineLincoln From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 3887 posts, RR: 8
Reply 16, posted (8 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 14560 times:

I think in alot of cases where they haven't been disabled for MX reasons (i.e. to save on the cost of replacing the lamps) it's pilot's discretion, or at least that's what it seems like.

I've also heard that (at least historically) if the pilots are disgruntled with the airline they work for (say, contentious contract negotiations) they're much more apt to 'forget' to turn them on (and therefore, to deprive the airline of that bit of advertising without putting anyone at risk)

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User currently offlineCLE757 From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 1132 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (8 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 14480 times:

Continental,Continental Express and Continental Connection (Commute Air)all have them, its up to the pilot to turn them on.


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User currently offlineGQfluffy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (8 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 14402 times:

Think it's mostly up to the pilots. GQ's 1900Ds have them, but our tails are just plain blue so there really isn't a reason to turn them on. Some pilots do, and some don't...

User currently offlineVio From Canada, joined Feb 2004, 1414 posts, RR: 10
Reply 19, posted (8 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 14380 times:

Westjet uses them here (YYC) too.


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User currently offlineJoeAirbus From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 39 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (8 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 14348 times:

HP (oops,US West) still uses them on all a/c in the fleet.

User currently offlineDLCnxgptjax From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 353 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (8 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 14238 times:

I've seen NW A320's and A319's use them.

User currently offlineDelta777Jet From Germany, joined Jun 2000, 1257 posts, RR: 3
Reply 22, posted (8 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 14225 times:

easyJet uses them !!!


Fly easyJet
User currently offlineJBLUA320 From United States of America, joined May 2002, 3179 posts, RR: 19
Reply 23, posted (8 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 14133 times:
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Yep jetBlue uses them

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User currently offlineAS739X From United States of America, joined Apr 2003, 6124 posts, RR: 23
Reply 24, posted (8 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 14076 times:

Alaska Airlines:

Only on the NG 737's (700/800/900)

The MD80's/734 are not equiped

Thought a side note. N786AS (The Icelantic Princess) which we bought from Icelandair does have the logo lights on the end of the wing, but are not activated.

ASLAX



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25 777ER : Air NZ and Jetconnect (Qantas) use them.
26 ACB777 : I think CX uses them as well.
27 Malaysia : DL hardly ever used them, I really never saw DL aircraft ever use the logos when I worked for them, but some 767-332ER would have them on. Kinda looke
28 Tismfu : That's what I had read a while back on this forum. AA apparently doesn't even have bulbs in them to a) save weight and b) save money on powering/repl
29 ZRH : Swiss has them and its predecessor Swissair hat them since I can remember.
30 Rdwelch : F9 has them so you can see what animal the a/c has on it. This is both on the tail and the wing tips so the pax can be reminded which animal is on the
31 HAWK21M : Quite popular at Nights.Out here most use them. regds mEL
32 RootsAir : only FR would not do that just to save money....nothing nicer than tail logo lights
33 Trent900 : I have heard aircraft have the lights on to help ATC at busy airports. I suppose in some ways if your in the tower looking out it makes life a bit ea
34 Sjsu2sjcAA777 : Here at SJC American eagle, continental, united express, frontier, jet blue, horizon, southwest, America west, and Hawaiian all use there tail lights.
35 TS-IOR : I think that tail logo lights are installed on series and not optional,use is then on the discretion of the PF or under instructions from the airline.
36 Toering : What is the tech term used for this light and where is the switch located in most aircraft? Is turning this on and off on a preflight check and or a p
37 LY4XELD : I've never heard the AA livery described as ugly, but everyone is entitled to their opinion. The tail light is non essential for dispatch, so there w
38 Typhaerion : TZ has them on at least their Boeing fleet...
39 Post contains images FlyAUA : I wasn't aware of that fact that aircraft WITHOUT logo lights installed on the tail even existed
40 Goaliemn : On the 320 and DC9, there is a switch on the overhead panel. I flew in simulators of both type and they were there. The 320 listed it as a logo light
41 Post contains links and images Crash65 : On the 737-300/500/700/800/900 that I fly, the logo light switch is in the same position as this picture shows. (overhead panel, lower right) it is l
42 Post contains images Ilikeyyc : Atlantic Southeast Airlines has disabled their logo lights. More than likely in order to save a little
43 A300605R : I saw an HF A310 landing in FRA at night a view weeks ago. HF uses logo lights. The blue tails of the TUI-Group look great when lightened! - Nicer tha
44 Eirjet : To the best of my knowledge EI use them. I have seen FR aircraft taxi out of DUB with no logo-light Eirjet
45 Burnsie28 : The DC9 doenst have them. Confirmed from a DC-9 captain. From what I have heard is their is no switch for the logo light. Its just always on.
46 Post contains links and images N405MX : MX, AM, ZE, 6A uses them, MX even got them installed on their 727´s, now QA (Click) with the F100´s are using them, as the DC9´s didn´t had them.
47 FLY2HMO : Its not a question of who uses them, but rather a question of who doesn't...
48 Post contains images N405MX : Aerocalifornia, and plenty of aircraft with a dead bulb I remember on the A320´s the tail light is connected with the NAV lights, so they use the sa
49 ORDUSA : From what I can see at ORD Terminal 5, all the International airlines use tail lights as well as UA, FedEx, UPS, and U5. It looks really cool!
50 C133 : Okay, what's a sterile light? In the cabin to advise the FAs of sterile cockpit? By the way, in the '70s and '80s, American's newer airplanes were eq
51 Post contains images FOMEA : I couldn't Imagine a Plane without tail logo lights. As For MEA ..It looks like they do. Regards F-OMEA.
52 Post contains links and images Ryanlock : In my opinion this picture is probably the best display of a logo light on a.net. This DL tail light is just brilliant. Especially as it's on the T7.
53 VuelingAirbus : You are absolutly right. It is a combined NAV & logo light switch. Since the NAV lights are mandatory you will have a hard time finding an Airbus wit
54 Sunking737 : Sun Country does have them and we use them. Not sure about the Transavia planes we use during the winter.
55 Bmipk : I know Airsouthwest on the Dash's use tail lights! Bmipk
56 Post contains images Airman99o : Skyservice airlines in Canada does. It has so many tail logos to show off Airman99o
57 Crash65 : That is correct. Although now I realize our configuration is somewhat unique as I tried to find an example on A.net, the switch was not installed on
58 NASOCEANA : FedEx use them, as well!
59 JmhLUV2fly : AirTran Airways and those sharp looking Boeing 717's use the tail lights for certain, and I would think the 737's use the lights as well, but have not
60 GroundStop : That is correct. There is a proximity sensor on the nose gear that allows this. However, there is an override switch on the overhead panel that allow
61 Post contains images HAWK21M : Its reffered to as Logo light & located on the Overhead panel Lower RH corner on a B737.The Light can be located on the Wingtip or on the Horizontal
62 Legacytravel : YX uses them in MKE and I have seen NW with them as well. Mark in MKE
63 Go3Team : Saw a bunch on some of CO's last night while tooling around EWR.
64 COEWR2587 : I don't see why they make it mandatory. Wouldn't it help in visibility to other aircrafts when taxing or in bad weather?
65 Skymileman : I couldn't agree more than with those of you who say DL's tail with the logo light is amazing. It is absolutely awesome.
66 Blue787 : UA dont seem to use them into SYD at least,most of the others use them.
67 ELAL 744 : El Al does not use them for security reasons More the pity, as they have nice tail logos...
68 Jeb94 : I hate to tell you this Burnsie but the DC9 does have them if the original operator wanted them. They are a factory option. All YX aircraft have them
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