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Airbus Books $14 Billion Worth Of Orders At Dubai  
User currently offlineWINGS From Portugal, joined May 2005, 2831 posts, RR: 68
Posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 9276 times:

Airbus has just released the following news on their website.

$14 Billion worth of Orders and Commitments (excluding options) at the Dubai Air Show, for the Following companies:

Aercap 70x A320
Alafco 12x A350
ILFC 12x A350
Jazeera Airways 6x A320
Kingfisher 30x A320
National Air Service (NAS) 5x A318
Tap Portugal 10x A350 7x A330
UFO 5x A320

Total: 157

As for the A350 it has now received 155 Orders/commitments for 155 airplanes from 11 customers.

http://www.airbus.com/en/presscentre...ases_items/11_23_05_14billion.html

congratulations to Airbus. This sure has been an excellent year for Aviation in general.

Regards,
Wings


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User currently offlineBoeingBus From United States of America, joined May 2004, 1596 posts, RR: 18
Reply 1, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 9191 times:

Quoting WINGS (Thread starter):
Alafco 12x A350

not to be a stinker... but this order was first announced in Paris... why is Airbus reannouncing an order??? it just got firmed up...

Yes, a very good year for aviation.

Cheers,

Ric



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User currently offlineB742 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2005, 3766 posts, RR: 19
Reply 2, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 9177 times:

Thanks Wings for the update!  Smile

Quoting WINGS (Thread starter):
Alafco 12x A350
ILFC 12x A350

Any idea which carrier these A350's will be for?

Quoting WINGS (Thread starter):
UFO 5x A320

Any idea which carrier the A320's are for?

Rob!  wave 


User currently offlineTaromA380 From Romania, joined Sep 2005, 334 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 8848 times:

I know my question is classic, but how much $ billions of orders does have Boeing till now (just for comparation) ?

User currently offlineWINGS From Portugal, joined May 2005, 2831 posts, RR: 68
Reply 4, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 8827 times:

Quoting BoeingBus (Reply 1):

not to be a stinker... but this order was first announced in Paris... why is Airbus reannouncing an order??? it just got firmed up...

I believe that they included the Alafco order as it passed from a MOU to a firm order.

We can also say the same about Boeing and ILFC, as they were listed as UFO on their order list.

Quoting B742 (Reply 2):
Any idea which carrier these A350's will be for?

My guess would be any current A330/A340 operator is a good candidate to take some of the orders.

Quoting B742 (Reply 2):
Any idea which carrier the A320's are for?

Most probably a follow on order from an airline.

Regards,
Wings



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User currently offlinePavlin From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 8775 times:

Doesn't matter if it got more planes than Boeing.

User currently offlineGARPD From UK - Scotland, joined Aug 2005, 2603 posts, RR: 4
Reply 6, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 8703 times:

Taking Airbus penchant for saving orders for airshows into consideration, I don't see this as surprising at all.

We all knew Airbus we're going to announce some juicy deals and Dubai.

Interesting to see the total list cost, none the less.



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User currently offlineStarrion From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1126 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 8559 times:

Any indications as to why QR didn't confirm their orders at the show?

That goes for both manufacturers BTW.....



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User currently offlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 30388 posts, RR: 84
Reply 8, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days ago) and read 8426 times:
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It's still some good news and PR for Airbus, and even though the huge expected QR and EK confirmations/orders have yet to come through, that existing commitments for the A350 have been signed, as well as new orders placed, is a vote of confidence for the program.

User currently offlineA342 From Germany, joined Jul 2005, 4679 posts, RR: 3
Reply 9, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days ago) and read 8396 times:

Quoting WINGS (Thread starter):
UFO 5x A320

Some correction, it says 5 A320 Series aircraft for an undisclosed private customer.
The A32S premium models seem to be selling very well.



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User currently offlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 30388 posts, RR: 84
Reply 10, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days ago) and read 8375 times:
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Quoting A342 (Reply 9):
The A32S premium models seem to be selling very well.

UA classifies their TED A320s as A32S in their timetable and there is precious little premium about them.  Wink


User currently offlineKeesje From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days ago) and read 8335 times:

I don´t think Boeing will be very dissapointed if they sold less aircraft then Airbus in Dubai. They sold 42 777-300ER´s to a fat cat, very important in bridging the ´03-´08 period.

User currently offlineA342 From Germany, joined Jul 2005, 4679 posts, RR: 3
Reply 12, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days ago) and read 8247 times:

Quoting Stitch (Reply 10):
UA classifies their TED A320s as A32S in their timetable and there is precious little premium about them

And that´s why I said A32S PREMIUM (ACJ family) models, consisting of the A318Elite, A319 Executive(LR)/ACJ and A320Prestige. However, A321s are also available for VIP/Executive customers on request or can be converted to such models.



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User currently offlineLightsaber From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 12773 posts, RR: 100
Reply 13, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 8062 times:
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Quoting WINGS (Thread starter):
As for the A350 it has now received 155 Orders/commitments for 155 airplanes from 11 customers.

Wow!  eyepopping  That makes the A350 a lot easier to sell. (Its about 1/2 way to a good resale market, where a minimum of ~300 or 400 airframes are required.)

I have to say, I'm liking 2005!  bigthumbsup  There is finally a good variety of aircraft out there that interest me for the new orders: E190, 787, 350, 380, 777, and even the 737/320 fight.  box 

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User currently offlineA388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9688 posts, RR: 11
Reply 14, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 7646 times:

Quoting Starrion (Reply 7):
Any indications as to why QR didn't confirm their orders at the show?

I was wondering the same too. Will QR and EK still announce their orders for the A350 and/or 787 during the Dubai Air Show? It would be nice from a marketing point of view.

A388


User currently offlineIwok From Sweden, joined Jan 2005, 1107 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 6253 times:

Quoting Pavlin (Reply 5):
Doesn't matter if it got more planes than Boeing.

By my count, there are 140 for Airbus and 143 for Boeing.

Definately a good show all round.

-iwok


User currently offlineNWA From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 1200 posts, RR: 3
Reply 16, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 5689 times:

This does seem to be a good year for both. Good job bus!


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User currently offlineTrex8 From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 4589 posts, RR: 14
Reply 17, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 5097 times:
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lots of orders are great but can the manufacturers actually turn that into a profit, as Boeing's experience 8 years ago shows, thats not always the case. keeping or gaining market share at a loss is viable as a short term strategy only

User currently offlineDougloid From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 4746 times:

A cynic might suggest that they sold mostly the smaller older types.

User currently offlineEI321 From Iraq, joined Jul 2009, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 4711 times:

Quoting B742 (Reply 2):
Any idea which carrier the A320's are for?

Aer Lingus is a possibility.


User currently offlineManni From South Korea, joined Nov 2001, 4221 posts, RR: 23
Reply 20, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 4629 times:

Quoting Dougloid (Reply 18):
A cynic might suggest that they sold mostly the smaller older types.

Of wich R&D are payed of years ago might an optimist ad.  Wink



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User currently offlineStargoldLHR From Heard and McDonald Islands, joined Feb 2004, 1529 posts, RR: 1
Reply 21, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 4498 times:

UFO Airways ???


I'd like to see their planes ? Is there uniform green ? and the staff 4ft tall ?



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User currently offlineWINGS From Portugal, joined May 2005, 2831 posts, RR: 68
Reply 22, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 4451 times:

Quoting StargoldLHR (Reply 21):
UFO Airways ???

UFO = Undisclosed customer.

Regards,
Wings



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User currently offlineFlytweed From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 84 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 3959 times:

Quoting Lightsaber (Reply 13):
I have to say, I'm liking 2005! There is finally a good variety of aircraft out there that interest me for the new orders: E190, 787, 350, 380, 777, and even the 737/320 fight.

Let's not forget Boeing will be rolling the 748 in a few years. No orders yet, yes, but I'd expect it'll be a pretty big player if the A380 proves to be marketable. Airbus says the 748 won't be a competitor, but think about it, the 748 can fly into probably 30 times more airports than the A380. Why would carriers want the A380, which requires reconstructing airports to accomodate it? Not to mention, many configurations of the A380 will have 550 or so pax configurations, whereas the 748 just under 500, so they could be pretty directly competitive.

Just my  twocents 

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User currently offlineJetMaster From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 3767 times:

Quoting Flytweed (Reply 23):
Why would carriers want the A380, which requires reconstructing airports to accomodate it?

I think the airport issue hasn't yet stopped an airline from ordering it. And the large international airports which can expect future A380 services will upgrade anyways.

Quoting Flytweed (Reply 23):
Not to mention, many configurations of the A380 will have 550 or so pax configurations, whereas the 748 just under 500, so they could be pretty directly competitive.

The B748 will seat some 450 pax in three classes while the A380 will seat 550. If you choose luxurious layouts (like QF and SQ are planning) then you get some 370-400 seats on the B748 and some 460-490 on the A380.


Regards,
JM


25 Post contains links and images Stitch : Their uniforms are silver and the FAs all have metallic wigs. http://www.ufoseries.com/
26 Dougloid : What's that got to do with the "numbers we sold" game? It applies to the folks in Seattle as well-haven't they sold a bunch of 737s this year?
27 Post contains images Manni : Where in my post did I write that it doesn't apply to the people in Chicago (not Seatlle)? Selling a bunch of A320's or 737 might not be as glamourou
28 Trex8 : you would think it should be like printing money but as B showed in the 90s, you can lose several billion making lots of planes for customers orderin
29 Post contains images Manni : Obviously, but it's up to the manufacturer to keep this under control. None of the 2 manufacturers need to go below cost, they both have a fair share
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