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Total # Of Airline Employees - Each Airline?  
User currently offlineSeptember11 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 3623 posts, RR: 21
Posted (8 years 11 months 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 4135 times:

I want to know current total number of employees for each airline. Can anyone provide a list here? I was curious which airline has most employees and which major airline has fewest employees. I believe American Airlines (and American Eagle) has about 100,000 employees?


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User currently offlineCricket From India, joined Aug 2005, 2971 posts, RR: 7
Reply 1, posted (8 years 11 months 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 4119 times:

I doubt there will be any comprehensive list like that in the public domain.


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User currently offlineKLMCedric From Belgium, joined Dec 2003, 812 posts, RR: 22
Reply 2, posted (8 years 11 months 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 4102 times:

KLM: 34.000
Air France: 53.800

AF-KL: 87.800


User currently offlineBeno From Australia, joined Aug 2002, 428 posts, RR: 4
Reply 3, posted (8 years 11 months 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 4087 times:

Qantas Group: 38,000

[Edited 2005-11-25 13:25:20]

User currently offlineClassicLover From Ireland, joined Mar 2004, 4643 posts, RR: 23
Reply 4, posted (8 years 11 months 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 4085 times:

Qantas fact file on the QF web site says they employ approximately 38,000 people.

Aer Lingus average number of employees for 2004 was 3,906.

Trent.



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User currently offlineAggieflyboi04 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 208 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (8 years 11 months 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 4056 times:

I belive WN has somewhere around 74000 employees.

User currently offlineCaptaink From Mexico, joined May 2001, 5109 posts, RR: 12
Reply 6, posted (8 years 11 months 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 4040 times:

US Airways' website says nearly 38,000.


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User currently offlineCorsairf/a From France, joined Oct 2000, 373 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (8 years 11 months 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 4017 times:

Corsair less than 3000 and around 1500 are flying.

User currently offlineDstc47 From Ireland, joined Sep 1999, 1481 posts, RR: 3
Reply 8, posted (8 years 11 months 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 3995 times:

These figures can be very misleading.

Airlines differ greatly in the degree of "contracting out " of services provided, with in general the legacy carriers (still) doing a lot of things in house though less than before, and the LCC's having most functions sub contracted out.

Check in, Maintenance, Catering, Flight Services, Ground Handling, in the numbers or out?


User currently offlineKLMCedric From Belgium, joined Dec 2003, 812 posts, RR: 22
Reply 9, posted (8 years 11 months 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 3995 times:

Here's another one

NWA: 40.000


User currently offlineEA CO AS From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 13649 posts, RR: 62
Reply 10, posted (8 years 11 months 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 3974 times:
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AA: 92,100
AS: 14,584
CO: 40,638
DL: 69,150
NW: 39,342
F9: 3,612
FL: 5,900
B6: 7,399
US: 38,000
TZ: 6,900
WN: 31,000 (boy were YOU off, Aggieflyboi!)  Wink
UA: 61,000
HA: 2,685
AQ: 3,700


Sources: company websites and Yahoo financial profiles/SEC filings.



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User currently offlineNYCAAer From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 693 posts, RR: 3
Reply 11, posted (8 years 11 months 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 3940 times:

The AA numbers above include American Eagle. AA alone currently has about 76,700 employees.

User currently offlinePHXinterrupted From United States of America, joined Apr 2002, 474 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (8 years 11 months 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 3930 times:

Southwest's website says "more than 31,000," which I believe is a 2004 estimate. I would guess the number is more like 35,000 employees now.


Keepin' it real.
User currently offlineEMBQA From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 9364 posts, RR: 11
Reply 13, posted (8 years 11 months 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 3895 times:

Quoting EA CO AS (Reply 10):
AA: 92,100
AS: 14,584
CO: 40,638
DL: 69,150
NW: 39,342
F9: 3,612
FL: 5,900
B6: 7,399
US: 38,000
TZ: 6,900
WN: 31,000
UA: 61,000
HA: 2,685
AQ: 3,700

I wonder what those numbers would look like 'pre' Sept '01......????



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User currently offlineBigdrewfl From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 127 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (8 years 11 months 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 3858 times:

B6 numbers are more like "9500" and each day the company adds an average of 9 employees per day. *this is according to an email sent yesterday by management.

User currently offlineEA CO AS From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 13649 posts, RR: 62
Reply 15, posted (8 years 11 months 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 3843 times:
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Quoting EMBQA (Reply 13):
Quoting EA CO AS (Reply 10):
AA: 92,100
AS: 14,584
CO: 40,638
DL: 69,150
NW: 39,342
F9: 3,612
FL: 5,900
B6: 7,399
US: 38,000
TZ: 6,900
WN: 31,000
UA: 61,000
HA: 2,685
AQ: 3,700

I wonder what those numbers would look like 'pre' Sept '01......????

Funny you should ask...

(copied from planebusiness.com)

The Ever-Shrinking Airline Employee Universe

As if you needed hard and fast proof that the airline employee is becoming an endangered species, the Department of Transportation gave us cold hard numbers last week to support what you and I both know -- the airline employee is a vanishing breed.

As you can see by these charts that track the number of FTEs, or full-time employees, the number of employees employed by the big eight carriers in 2001 was almost 420,000. Fast forward to 2005, and that number has shrunk to 275,000.

Ah, but there is all that hiring going on with the low-cost carriers, some might say.

No, there has not been that much hiring going on with the low-cost carriers.
A look at the second chart shows us that for the same time period, the eight largest low-cost carriers only added about 10,000 employees during the same period of time.

Net-net, the industry is now about 150,000 employees smaller than it was four years ago.


(unable to link charts - sorry)



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User currently offlineVV701 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 7624 posts, RR: 17
Reply 16, posted (8 years 11 months 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 3700 times:

BA had 46,112 average MPEs (Manpower Equivalent - the number of employees adjusted for part time workers and overtime) for the period I April to 30 September 2005. But if you just count heads you probably get a different number.

User currently offlineSkytony From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 145 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (8 years 11 months 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 3630 times:

As of 11-19-2005 United has 57,143 employees.


Lower your expectations! You will always be pleasantly surprised!
User currently offlineAirplaneBoy From United States of America, joined May 2004, 566 posts, RR: 10
Reply 18, posted (8 years 11 months 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 3602 times:

Frontier employees approximately 4,600 people, according to our press releases and marketing.

Cheers!  Smile


User currently offlineLightsaber From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 13266 posts, RR: 100
Reply 19, posted (8 years 11 months 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 3546 times:
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Quoting EA CO AS (Reply 10):
UA: 61,000

Wow! That is a brutal reduction compared to pre 9/11.  Sad But its good to see the company growing again. My friends that used to fly UA seem to all be back flying UA (I know, un-scientific...)

Does anyone have a list of full time equivalent (FTE's) per available seat mile?

Thanks for the info EA CO AS.

Quoting EA CO AS (Reply 15):

FL: 5,900
B6: 7,399

Is B6 already that much more than FL?!? Does FL outsource more?

Lightsaber



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User currently offlineAndz From South Africa, joined Feb 2004, 8455 posts, RR: 10
Reply 20, posted (8 years 11 months 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 3531 times:
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South African Airways, from http://www.flysaa.com

Employs close to 12 000 people worldwide, including 3 600 at SAA Technical. Staff include about 2 800 flight attendants and more than 800 pilots.



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User currently offlineBlsbls99 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 345 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (8 years 11 months 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 3526 times:

It'd be interesting to find out how many employees per aircraft a company has. I'm sure it varies quite a bit, based upon aircraft sizes, service levels, etc.


319 320 313 722 732 733 735 73G 738 739 742 752 763 772 CRJ D9S ERJ EMB L10 M88 M90 SF3 AT4
User currently onlineSESGDL From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 3489 posts, RR: 10
Reply 22, posted (8 years 11 months 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 3517 times:

Quoting EA CO AS (Reply 10):
AA: 92,100
AS: 14,584
CO: 40,638
DL: 69,150
NW: 39,342
F9: 3,612
FL: 5,900
B6: 7,399
US: 38,000
TZ: 6,900
WN: 31,000 (boy were YOU off, Aggieflyboi!) Wink
UA: 61,000
HA: 2,685
AQ: 3,700

Last heard DL had 51,000 employees, NW had 36,000 and US had 26,000. CO had something like 32,000 and AA was around 80,000. Those numbers above are high accept for F9, FL, B6, and WN, whose numbers have all likely increased.

Jeremy


User currently offlineAS739X From United States of America, joined Apr 2003, 6161 posts, RR: 24
Reply 23, posted (8 years 11 months 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 3503 times:

No wonder TZ is in so much trouble. Almost 7,000 employee's with the number of flights they have. Ouch!

ASLAX



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User currently offlineCrogalski From United States of America, joined May 2005, 514 posts, RR: 3
Reply 24, posted (8 years 11 months 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 3399 times:

B6 has 9,500 employees... and still growing


A319 A320 B717 B727 B737 B747 B757 B767 C152 C172 DC9 E145 E190 MD88 PA28 | B6 CO DL FL NK NW LO TW
25 AirCanada014 : Air Canada has about 36000 people
26 F9Mechanic : One thing that Frontier is keeping quiet is how they believe that the Airbus doesn't need maintance, and are reducing the number of mechanics. We are
27 Post contains images AirplaneBoy : Correction- I just realized I should have written "Frontier emploYS 4,600 people," and not emoloyEES 4,600 people. My apologies.
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