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MAS May Cancel Planned A320 / B737 Order  
User currently offlinePanAm_DC10 From Australia, joined exactly 14 years ago today! , 4140 posts, RR: 90
Posted (8 years 9 months ago) and read 4844 times:
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At least according to this report.


16:12 28Nov2005 OBI-UPDATE: Malaysian Air Drops Plan To Replace Boeing Jets

UPDATE: Malaysian Air Drops Plan To Replace Boeing Jets

(Updates with background and analyst comments)

KUALA LUMPUR (Dow Jones)--Malaysian Airline System Bhd. (3786.KU) has shelved
plans to replace 39 Boeing 737-400s with new planes as it trims costs to regain
profitability, an industry source told Dow Jones Newswires Monday.
The decision not to replace the jets could be a minor blow for Boeing Co. (BA)
and rival Airbus (ABI.YY), but allow the national airline to defer costly capital
expenses amid rising oil prices and plans to trim its overseas and local routes.
"There is overcapacity and there are more plans to trim routes," the source told
Dow Jones Newswires on condition of anonymity. The airline was expected to make a
decision by the end of this year.
Airbus and Boeing executives were not immediately available for comment while a
MAS spokesperson said the airline will discuss this and other issues Wednesday
when it announces earnings for the September quarter.
The decision not to replace the jets is also related to talks between the
national airline and rival AirAsia Bhd. (5099.KU) to carve up domestic routes, a
move that will allow MAS to focus on international routes and the budget airline
to serve more domestic customers.


Regards, PanAm_DC10


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User currently offlineCarpethead From Japan, joined Aug 2004, 2953 posts, RR: 3
Reply 1, posted (8 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 4679 times:

That's because AirAsia is blowing MAS out of the waters on regional and domestic routes. Time to re-trench and drawup a solid business plan before ordering up planes that they may not really need.

User currently offlinePennPal From United States of America, joined May 2004, 170 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (8 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 4345 times:

This could turn into a bad news/good news scenario for Boeing...the bad news being you've lost potential orders from MAS, but the good news being that there will be 39 less used airframes glutting the market, and the customers that might have bought/leased those might look to replace them with new examples...

User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21507 posts, RR: 60
Reply 3, posted (8 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 4328 times:

734 is not a bad plane. Airlines are running 733/734/735 efficiently alongside 737NGs in their fleets. Their oldest 734 is only 13 years old and the majority of their 734/735s are between 11 and 13 years old, so putting off the order for a while isn't the end of the world.


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User currently offlineSoundtrack From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 284 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (8 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 4236 times:

funny

i was at klia last week and saw a MAS 73 NG with wingtips - anyone know about this?

thanks


User currently offlineCRJ900 From Norway, joined Jun 2004, 2177 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (8 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 4119 times:
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Didn't MAS take the last 734s built, up to the year 2000? If so, what's the rush? Those planes will be good for another 10 years. With competition sharpening in the region, I fully understand if MAS needs to save money and fight for their piece of the pie...

Perhaps they'll become launch customers for the next-generation single-aisle jets from A and B instead of going for the current products...



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User currently offlineBA319-131 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 8527 posts, RR: 54
Reply 6, posted (8 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 4047 times:
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To be honest, a good idea.

MAS need to decide what & where they plan to fly the narrowbody's too, especially give all the increases of LCC's in their home territory.

Once done, that will decide exactly how many planes they need, perhaps not as many as they have at the moment..............



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User currently offlineKL808 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 1584 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (8 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 4012 times:

Quoting Soundtrack (Reply 4):
was at klia last week and saw a MAS 73 NG with wingtips - anyone know about this?

they are leasing both B73NG and A320's to, I guess try both types out.

Drew



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User currently offlineFCKC From France, joined Nov 2004, 2348 posts, RR: 4
Reply 8, posted (8 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 3920 times:

Both 737-800s are leased from Travel Service of Czech Republic.
MAS do not lease any A320s.They have though at this earlier , but this plan seems to be cancelled.


User currently offlineLazybones From Australia, joined Jan 2005, 170 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (8 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 3550 times:

Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 3):
734 is not a bad plane. Airlines are running 733/734/735 efficiently alongside 737NGs in their fleets. Their oldest 734 is only 13 years old and the majority of their 734/735s are between 11 and 13 years old, so putting off the order for a while isn't the end of the world.

Aint that the truth, we're very quick to write-off old hardware on a.net. Just look at OzJet (www.ozjet.com.au). New service based on the steam driven 737-200. Big grin


User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21507 posts, RR: 60
Reply 10, posted (8 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 3136 times:

Quoting Lazybones (Reply 9):
Aint that the truth, we're very quick to write-off old hardware on a.net. Just look at OzJet (www.ozjet.com.au). New service based on the steam driven 737-200.

If they were looking to replace 732s with new jets, then MAS would be foolish to postpone. 732s ARE costly to run. I guess doing it all J makes it work?

But the 734 still has legs. MAS also flies 735s, which are a very efficient plane, more so than the 736NG, one reason the 736 isn't selling well while airlines love their 735s. Not to mention that there is no 737NG or A320 series equivalent for the 734, so the transition would mean routes with constantly changing capacity depending on which plane was serving it that day. For example: 734, 73G, 738.

And as a passenger, you can barely tell the difference inside of a 733 or 737, as both are about the same noise level, and on CO, many of their 733s have IFE.



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User currently offlineAirbus Lover From Malaysia, joined Apr 2000, 3248 posts, RR: 9
Reply 11, posted (8 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 3124 times:

MH has stopped operating B735s for many years now.

User currently offlineFCKC From France, joined Nov 2004, 2348 posts, RR: 4
Reply 12, posted (8 years 8 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 2977 times:

I am sure they are studying 737NG/A320 , but also EMB170/190 , as they already said the Brasilian family came to their mind.

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