According to this article China is set to buy 70 a320 aircraft, for China Eastern, China Souhern and Air China.
The deal is expected to be signed this week when Chinese prime-minister Wen Jiabao visits France.
Seems like China wants to keep everyone happy. So no doubt they will also order the 748 and a350 in the future IMO. As well as more a380's.
Thanks Halibut, I was looking for an english article, glad you found it.
What's interesting is that this order comes on top of the 20 ordered by East Star Airlines. This is sure a fantastic year for both A and B. I wonder if next year we will also see so many orders.
Kappel From Suriname, joined Jul 2005, 3533 posts, RR: 18 Reply 8, posted (7 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 5578 times:
Quoting Nijltje (Reply 6): What is the ratio B737 vs A320 this year?
The official count as of november 1st was:
737: 449
a320: 396
Add the 70 737's and 70 a320's from China, plus (also China) East Star Air 20 a320's and the still not firm 100 a320's from IndiGo
737: 519
a320:586
So the a320 is in the lead. Of course unless I forgot some 737 orders. Anybody feel free to correct me.
Oh and BTW, it seems EVA Air is close to signing for 12 a320's, (according to the Economic Daily News)although the 737 is not out of the running yet. But the a320 is the favoured type.
Sabenapilot From Belgium, joined Feb 2000, 2698 posts, RR: 48 Reply 9, posted (7 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 5537 times:
The article mentions the order will exceed 70 planes from the A320 family of aircraft.
I think the number was quoted merely to make the comparison with the large Chinese 737 order from last week more than to give away the exact number already.
If I understand it correctly, It could be 80, 90 or more easily and it would then have made sense to announce the 737 order first, because otherwise even G.W. Bush would have felt 'his' 737 order was just the consolation prize for Boeing from the Government of the People's Republic.
Kappel From Suriname, joined Jul 2005, 3533 posts, RR: 18 Reply 10, posted (7 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 5500 times:
Quoting Sabenapilot (Reply 9): The article mentions the order will exceed 70 planes from the A320 family of aircraft.
Yes, but what the article unfortunately fails to mention, is whether it is including or excluding options. I guess we'll have to wait another week or so to be sure.
Astuteman From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2005, 9261 posts, RR: 96 Reply 11, posted (7 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 5463 times:
Quoting N754PR (Reply 1): Just when everyone was saying Boeing are getting the biz back from China. Seem's its the same as before half / half.
Quoting Sabenapilot (Reply 9): The article mentions the order will exceed 70 planes from the A320 family of aircraft.
This has all the hallmarks of being a mirror image of the "70 firm" plus "up to" 80 other 737 order last week.
Quoting Kappel (Reply 8): The official count as of november 1st was:
737: 449
a320: 396
Add the 70 737's and 70 a320's from China, plus (also China) East Star Air 20 a320's and the still not firm 100 a320's from IndiGo
737: 519
a320:586
Cruiser From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 999 posts, RR: 8 Reply 12, posted (7 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 5408 times:
This could be the 80 that Boeing was rumoured to have won last week.
Quoting Kappel (Reply 8): Add the 70 737's and 70 a320's from China, plus (also China) East Star Air 20 a320's and the still not firm 100 a320's from IndiGo
737: 519
a320:586
Also, the 70 announced last week by Boeing, 45 of them were previously announced, so it was only 25 new orders.
Airbus is really doing well in the single isle category this year.
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Ikramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21043 posts, RR: 60 Reply 13, posted (7 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 5359 times:
Quoting Cruiser (Reply 12): Also, the 70 announced last week by Boeing, 45 of them were previously announced, so it was only 25 new orders.
Airbus is really doing well in the single isle category this year.
Demonstrates to me that Boeing needs a 797 sooner than later. While this is a record year for both companies, one can't expect this every year, and the A320 is going to keep winning.
The 737 is a good plane, but it's not about to "win back" A320 customers in large numbers. Only a 797 could do that...
And don't forget, the 727 was replaced with the 757 while the 727 was still selling well, and it sold well even after the 757 was offered up until the 757 went EIS. Should Boeing have rested on it's laurels and not offered the 757?
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N1786b From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 555 posts, RR: 18 Reply 14, posted (7 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 5288 times:
Quoting Kappel (Reply 8): Of course unless I forgot some 737 orders.
Let's see....
Did your 737 numbers include the 12 for Pegasus, GOLs 5 firmed up options and the 40 (firm/options???) for DBA?
Danny From Poland, joined Apr 2002, 3484 posts, RR: 2 Reply 16, posted (7 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 5187 times:
Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 13): The 737 is a good plane, but it's not about to "win back" A320 customers in large numbers. Only
They don't need to win back Airbus customers for ideological reasons. 737 is selling great and Boeing can hardly meet demand. I don't see any need for quick replacement.
Do you have a link about future A320 Eva Air order ?
http://www.luchtvaartnieuws.nl/news/?ID=11342
In dutch
They refer to the Economic Daily News, wich is a Taiwanese newspaper. Their website is only in Chinese, and my chinese is limited to saying hello.
DL021 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 11436 posts, RR: 81 Reply 19, posted (7 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 4254 times:
Quoting Cruiser (Reply 12):
Also, the 70 announced last week by Boeing, 45 of them were previously announced, so it was only 25 new orders.
Not the way I read the releases....it was in addition to the previously announced order for 45. The question was concerning the follow on order for 70 or so more. Am I incorrect here?
Starrion From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1083 posts, RR: 2 Reply 21, posted (7 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 4128 times:
Do you think either manufacturer will start slowing the booking process in order to move orders into next year?
Both companies have an enormous order book for this year.
A few hundred frames held to next year would give them a healthy start to January.
PanAm_DC10 From Australia, joined Aug 2000, 3999 posts, RR: 92 Reply 22, posted (7 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 4067 times:
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Quoting Starrion (Reply 21): Do you think either manufacturer will start slowing the booking process in order to move orders into next year?
Yes, I think that is a good point given both have stated they expect 2005 to be a "peak" in orders.
This is another top deal that just goes to show the demand in China. We should all take note of 2005 as I feel it could well be quite sometime before we see such good sales figures for both Airbus and Boeing. Good to see both of them potentially book record sales years for their product lines.
N1786b From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 555 posts, RR: 18 Reply 23, posted (7 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 3786 times:
Quoting Pelican (Reply 18): The problem with DBA is, that they (as the CEO has sayed) can only afford 5 of them at the moment...
Kappel From Suriname, joined Jul 2005, 3533 posts, RR: 18 Reply 24, posted (7 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 3757 times:
Quoting N1786b (Reply 23): And how many of the 100 A32xs can Indigo afford?
If I'm not mistaken they are owned by a lather large Indian company, Interglobe enterprises. So they have finacial backing, perhaps more than DBA does. But of course if IndiGo turns out to be a failure, not all those a320's will be delivered. But that's something for the future to decide.
25 PanAm_DC10: Actually, they have only arranged financing for 5 thus far. Six airlines were mentioned as being the recipients of the 70 737s ordered. 2 of the airl
26 Schipholjfk: Your hard earned dollar/euro/any other currency = cheap, crappy Chinese made everyday products = cash in the bank for Chinese Govt = new planes from b
27 Radelow: Schipholjfk; Take your political rhetoric elsewhere. This is an aviation enthusiast website, not a place to voice your political/economic opinions. Wh
28 Carpethead: The orders keep on rolling in. What's interesting is that the record number of orders have been accomplished with very few North American carrier orde
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