Cricket From India, joined Aug 2005, 2936 posts, RR: 7 Posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 4627 times:
The new brand will be called 'Indian' this will be addition to the Alliance Air (CD) brand, which will continue (however the rumours persist that the brand will be killed). The first aircraft featuring this brand will be a A319 and will be unveiled in Delhi on the 7th. The livery will feature the Konark Sunwheel in blue on a Saffron background. 'Indian' will be a no-frills carrier operating on major sectors and will start service by mid-December.
Kkfla737 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 1033 posts, RR: 1 Reply 1, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 4599 times:
Will it be exclusively A 319, as IC right now only has A 320s? (CD flies 737-200s)
Cricket From India, joined Aug 2005, 2936 posts, RR: 7 Reply 2, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 4594 times:
The A319 saga is a bit strange - the planes were initially being taken for Alliance, but now the powers that be have decided to kill that airline and start a new brand which will fly the 4 A319's that arrive between now and mid-2006. God knows how the 43 new A32X's will be distributed.
AirIndia From United Arab Emirates, joined Jan 2001, 1545 posts, RR: 1 Reply 3, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 4583 times:
Quoting Cricket (Reply 2): but now the powers that be have decided to kill that airline
what about the pilots? Will they be trained for the 319/320s..?
Will this new entity also be entitled to fly abroad and say compete with air arabia or deccan lanka... any idea on that?
Cricket From India, joined Aug 2005, 2936 posts, RR: 7 Reply 4, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 4572 times:
No idea as yet, the details will become clear over the next few days. From some reports Alliance pilots have been told that some of them will be absorbed into the new carrier, however I doubt that they'll have any problem finding jobs given the current Indian market.
Aseem From India, joined Feb 2005, 2042 posts, RR: 11 Reply 7, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 4425 times:
As for the name we have Go and IndiGo, they could have named it GotToGo!!
About the rights to fly abroad, I'd say the policy is such a mish-mash of do's and don'ts.
cheers!!
VT-ASJ
AirIndia From United Arab Emirates, joined Jan 2001, 1545 posts, RR: 1 Reply 8, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 4315 times:
BlrBird From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 577 posts, RR: 0 Reply 9, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 4297 times:
Quoting Cricket (Reply 2): 4 A319's that arrive between now..
Here are the 1st & 2nd in XFW Hamburg (Airbus Plant) Germany not yet painted.
Sammyk From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 1686 posts, RR: 0 Reply 10, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 4261 times:
Hmm...a Konark Sunwheel oughta look good. Hope it isn't cheesy.
HAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31201 posts, RR: 58 Reply 16, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 4096 times:
Looks like CD will eventually shut down.
Also I don't see the B732 freighters having crew unless they pay them 50% more than the market value.
I think a better name should have been chosen.
regds
MEL
Aseem From India, joined Feb 2005, 2042 posts, RR: 11 Reply 17, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 3949 times:
folks!! read this. This article makes it quite clear that its not just the A319s but whole of IC is in for rebranding. Hindustan Times IA puts on warpaint to appear in ‘Indian’ avatar
As its mint-fresh leased A 319 arrives from Hamburg, Indian Airlines will change its name, motif, colours and maybe to a great extent revitalise itself to be more contemporary. For starters, Indian Airlines will no longer be Indian Airlines but now be called ‘Indian’.
“While there is a clear link to the present, the identity is innovative and fresh. Though the name of the company remains Indian Airlines Ltd, the brand changes completely. The colours and motif are very stylish.”
On December 7, only the new A319 will see the new name and colours atop it, but over a period of time, the entire fleet will see the metamorphosis. The change doesn't stop there. The standard livery will also be altered to enhance the look and feel of the interiors. And the uniforms too will be different.
Gamps From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 469 posts, RR: 1 Reply 18, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 3933 times:
So this is not related to Alliance Air at all. Just the parent undergoing image makeover. For a moment I thought what will they do with the North East ATRs if they shutdown Alliance Air.
BTW has anyone seen the Indian Airlines/Alliance Air ATRs? I am surprised there are no photos of them anywhere on the Net.
Himmat01 From India, joined Dec 2004, 1027 posts, RR: 6 Reply 20, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 3872 times:
Is VT-SCA still in Hamburg? If if the new colors are to be unveiled in Delhi on December 7th., it must be on it's way to DEL by now. I guess the pictures may be in queue.
An airplane might disappoint any pilot but it'll never surprise a good one.
Hawaijahaz From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 352 posts, RR: 0 Reply 21, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 3859 times:
So from what I understand from the article its not that IA is getting a sub-brand but it's rebranding itself. It will be called Indian and will have a new color scheme and all the schbang associated with it.
It's not like Ted is being formed but United is changing it's name and livery.
AirIndia From United Arab Emirates, joined Jan 2001, 1545 posts, RR: 1 Reply 22, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 3849 times:
Quoting Hawaijahaz (Reply 21): It's not like Ted is being formed but United is changing it's name and livery.
Is my thinking correct?
This is what appeared in print today. I was also surprised at reading the article as all along I too was thinking that a new sub airline was being floated.
However, having seen the track record of indian aviaion reporting, I will only believe when the new a/c is invieled in DEL, whether its Indian (a new sub) or a changed IC...
BTW wud anyone know what time it might be in DEL on 7th. I have a 2pm flight to catch, might just geta glimpse...
25 Aseem: maybe it will be sub-brand till the whole fleet is revamped. As I understand eventually whole of IC will become Indian. rgds VT-ASJ
26 Gr8Circle: I personally think 'Alliance Air' is a nice name....IC could have strengthened the brand and rejuvenated it....''Indian" is really hard to understand.
27 Cricket: God knows, one can never tell with the state-owned carriers, but I do think that some brand consultant (close to either the Congress or PeePee) must
28 Atmx2000: They should just call it "I" It will save even more on painting costs and will be less confusing than Indian. And then they can market it to the "me"
29 Cricket: The problem is that the 'me' generation likse being pampered and ain't something you'll get on Indian Airlines or any subsidiary of Indian Airlines w
30 HAWK21M: Don't forget to post the Pictures on this thread. regds MEL
31 TKMCE: Oh! What is the problem......A lot of Anet members have found Indian Airlines perfectly okay! But then you may not get that FULL can of coke! Not a s
32 HAWK21M: 7th is the Launch .So the Aircraft should be in Del now. regds MEL
33 Abrelosojos: = I think the nouveau-rich Indians call IC poor ... personally, IC is one of my favorite airlines out there. -A.
35 Aseem: where is Roy(IndianGuy).. it'd have been threesome awesome!!
36 Abrelosojos: There we go ... its "official" .... INDIAN is now born? Link: http://www.agencyfaqs.com/news/stories/2005/12/07/13503.html -A.
37 Cricket: Hey, I never said I don't like IC - I just grab my seat on row Alpha or Foxtrot and stare out the window, then use the sidewall to sleep until they se
38 TKMCE: I am more or less okay with the call centre but dont have 100% trust on them. They are still learning the ropes! I was once told by those chaps that
39 Cricket: Hmmm, surprised at your experience, I've used them three or four times and I've always found it satisfactory. However, Air Deccan's Call-centre on th
40 Rmenon: TKMCE - I agree - IC is highly underrated - I think their food is better than Jet's too.... Unfortunately there are lot of old money, and old middle
41 Himmat01: I managed to get a very brief glimpse of the new colors on an Indian nes channel. It is the same as what Cricket had stated in the initial post. The e
43 Scbriml: I have to say, that livery is much nicer than IC's current one.
44 Cricket: As Javed Jaffery says on the Maggi Hot and Sweet ad - 'Its Different'
45 TKMCE: Some of it is actually legitimate. When Jet started off, they enticed some of the best talent in IC (and IC did train even during those days, their s
46 Nimish: Much better livery than IC! However, need the folks that did AIX to take a stab at this one - I love the AIX colours!
47 Jasepl: Oh God yes! But it's still frightful. Hopefully, they will also get around to changing their much-loved paan-and-turquoise colour scheme inside the a
48 ArcticTern: Wish the team which worked on Air india Express could also work on the same. I really didnt like the new livery. Has a touch of hinduism, this is my p
49 HAWK21M: Better than the Earlier Livery,But not as good as the one on AIX,according to me. regds MEL
50 Abrelosojos: = Isn't the Ashok Chakra in the Indian flag and symbolizes continuity and dynamicness (and not stagnation)? I fail to see how its "hinduism" ... ever
51 HAWK21M: This was an Interesting Logo regds MEL
52 Rmenon: TKMCE - true, some of it is legitimate, but the behaviour I am talking about is ex-AI folks and their families - none of whom work at IC past & prese
53 ArcticTern: Hi Mel, Guess we wont forget the IA logo, ever since I was a kid I have seen it and I will definitely miss the IA logo.
54 Cricket: I really freaking hope so..... Until I see up close and personal I can't really say - that said AIX does have one of the better livery's around. I li
55 Abrelosojos: = I will miss this logo as well ... you know ... I never thought much about it ... but what exactly does this logo stand for? -A.
56 Cricket: It stands for a fat paycheck that some design consultant got!
57 HAWK21M: Check it out 360 Deg it looks great. Its "I" & "A" regds MEL
59 Cricket: Hmmm... it will grow on me, it will grow me.. i hope New "Indian" Livery (Indian Titles) (by B742 Dec 7 2005 in Civil Aviation) leads to thi
60 TKMCE: So which will be the first INDIAN A319 route? The floor is open .... Let the guessing game get underway.......
61 Blrsea: Yup, totally agree. And rather than giving it relegious overtones, I would say that it reflects our heritage. It is supposed to be influenced by the
62 WhiteHatter: Saw that whilst flicking through the foreign news channels this afternoon, an excellent departure from the dour IC branding of the past. Those picture
63 Jasepl: Agreed. But look at the most recent photos that have been posted. Oh my effing God! What a perfectly ghastly looking plane that is. Vomit!
64 Jaysit: So, is this a sub-brand? Or is the entire airline going to be re-branded?
65 Aseem: the "Indian" from Hindi side reminds one of "Indian Oil" will apply to entire fleet. Good to have 43 new planes in these colours. rgds VT-ASJ
66 LH459: Personally, I think it's really striking--much nicer than the old livery!
67 Sammyk: My two cents: Quite the improvement! They could have used a somewhat thinner and "exotic" font and made the titles bigger for the full billboard effec
68 Aseem: rebranding of IC has put to rest the merger talk. rgds VT-ASJ
69 HAWK21M: A Horizontal zine across the Windows maybe.And a bit less of Orange. regds MEL
70 Abrelosojos: Great pictures on IC's website ... surprised they are so quick about updating it. I really think it looks good ... check out the picture of the 319 ta
71 Blrsea: Good Find!! Some of the pictures are hi-res images too!
72 Jaysit: That really is a fantastic livery, bold and very sharp. Even the word "Indian" looks good in the Devanagiri script. IC really got it right.
73 Malaysia: All righty! a new Fly I hehe A319 and I name :P and independence....
74 HAWK21M: Whats the Aircraft arrival schedules for 2005 & 2006. regds MEL
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