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Sahara To Fly DEL-London From Jan. 6  
User currently offlineLAXDESI From United States of America, joined May 2005, 5086 posts, RR: 48
Posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 4371 times:

Sahara has announced their flight to London (LHR?) from DEL starting Jan 6, 2006, on a 4 class 767, 4x weekly. The promotional economy fare is Rs 28,500 with a free domestic RT ticket or a free RT to Singapore!. Happy to see them going to London. I hope they have a good schedule which would make it possible to connect to either AA or BA flights to USA.

Where did they get this 767 from?

Link:
http://www1.economictimes.indiatimes.com/articleshow/1313501.cms

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User currently offlineAseem From India, joined Feb 2005, 2045 posts, RR: 10
Reply 1, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 4323 times:

Are they serious about the service or its just a ploy to up their stake in case of buyout. I won't be buying a ticket 3 months ahead!!
rgds
VT-ASJ



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User currently offlineLAXDESI From United States of America, joined May 2005, 5086 posts, RR: 48
Reply 2, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 4306 times:

Quoting Aseem (Reply 1):
Are they serious about the service or its just a ploy to up their stake in case of buyout

It certainly helps them to play up their international flying rights to potential investors, especially foreign ones. Fly them into DEL from London in Premium Business for negotiations.


User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31573 posts, RR: 57
Reply 3, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 4275 times:

An S2 pilot mentioned B744s until they get the B777s.
What Brand new B767 as per the article.From Where.
regds
MEL



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User currently offlineLAXDESI From United States of America, joined May 2005, 5086 posts, RR: 48
Reply 4, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 4233 times:

Additional info. from Hindustan times: Link:
http://www.hindustantimes.com/news/181_1560788,00020016.htm
Quotes:
Announcing that the airline would acquire seven Boeing 737-800s on lease with the first two arriving in February, the Air Sahara chief said the carrier was also in talks with lessors for two more Boeing 767s for its international operations.
He said Air Sahara, which had launched 12 additional flights during November, was planning to have a second daily flight to Singapore this winter season. It was also planning to make the Delhi-London service a daily flight from the present four days a week.

The leading Indian airline has already applied for launching operations to Bangkok and Hong Kong in next summer and would also oeprate to Kuala Lumpur with additional planes coming in.
Dutta said Air Sahara would soon provide through tickets from any destination in India to any destination in Europe in collaboration with British Airways, while American Airlines would codeshare with it on the Delhi-London sector.


User currently offlineConcorde001 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2005, 1230 posts, RR: 3
Reply 5, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 4218 times:

Quoting LAXDESI (Thread starter):
Sahara has announced their flight to London (LHR?)

Yes, it is London Heathrow (where did they get the slots from?) - it is on their website.
Here are the timings:
DEL-LHR
Mon & Wed
Departure: 12:15 Arrival:16:40
Fri
Departure: 11:25 Arrival:15:50
Sat
Departure: 13:35 Arrival:18:00 1
LHR-DEL
Mon, Wed, Fri & Sat
Departure:21:00 Arrival:11:10**
** Next Day

Full details, including aircraft configuration can be found on the Air Sahara website:
http://www.airsahara.net


User currently offlineLAXDESI From United States of America, joined May 2005, 5086 posts, RR: 48
Reply 6, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 4218 times:

More info. on schedule from Webindia.

The plane will leave Delhi on Mondays, Wednesdays, Fridays and Saturdays during daytime and return in evenings.

Perfect. This will enable short connections to many cities on their network.


User currently offlineAseem From India, joined Feb 2005, 2045 posts, RR: 10
Reply 7, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 4215 times:

Quoting LAXDESI (Reply 4):
It was also planning to make the Delhi-London service a daily flight from the present four days a week.

what do they mean by "present"?? Starting Jan 6 is what they mean.

Quoting LAXDESI (Reply 4):
Air Sahara would soon provide through tickets from any destination in India to any destination in Europe in collaboration with British Airways, while American Airlines would codeshare with it on the Delhi-London sector.

also with flights starting to HKG, it indeed OneWorld!!

rgds
VT-ASJ



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User currently offlineLAXDESI From United States of America, joined May 2005, 5086 posts, RR: 48
Reply 8, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 4155 times:

Excellent connection to JFK on AA.

LHR-JFK Dep 8.00 p.m. Arr 10:50 p.m.
JFK-LHR Dep 8.30 a.m. Arr 8.20 p.m.

Is 40 minutes enough to connect to Sahara flight to DEL at 9:00 p.m.?


User currently offlineBA319-131 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 8430 posts, RR: 55
Reply 9, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 4140 times:
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Is it really worth them having a 4 class 763? - Since they are new to the route I would think it is better to offer get themselves established on the route before launching a 4 class product.

In addition, it leaves room for just 193 seats, i'm not sure if this is a great idea.

I could be wrong though!!



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User currently offlineLAXDESI From United States of America, joined May 2005, 5086 posts, RR: 48
Reply 10, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 4011 times:

Quoting BA319-131 (Reply 9):
Is it really worth them having a 4 class 763?

They probably had no choice as this Aircraft must be leased from some airline which can not use it currently.


User currently offlineA300605R From Germany, joined Nov 2005, 136 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 3953 times:

Is it correct that Jet Airways will start or just started service into LHR as well? Is this route worthy to go into direct competition? AI and BA are flying into DEL, too, don't they?


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User currently offlineAseem From India, joined Feb 2005, 2045 posts, RR: 10
Reply 12, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 3949 times:

Quoting A300605R (Reply 11):
Is it correct that Jet Airways will start or just started service into LHR as well? Is this route worthy to go into direct competition? AI and BA are flying into DEL, too, don't they?

9W flies out of BOM and here also has to compete with AI and BA.
rgds
VT-ASJ



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User currently offlineConcorde001 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2005, 1230 posts, RR: 3
Reply 13, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 3937 times:

Quoting A300605R (Reply 11):
Is it correct that Jet Airways will start or just started service into LHR as well? Is this route worthy to go into direct competition?

Yes, Jet Airways have a daily flight from DEL to LHR, which arrives into LHR at about 7am and leaves at 9am - they are leasing the slots from UA.

Quoting A300605R (Reply 11):
AI and BA are flying into DEL, too, don't they?

Yes, the following airlines also operate LHR-DEL.
BA - daily at the moment, leaving LHR at about 9am. It will be double daily by May '06.
VS - daily flight, leaving LHR at 9pm
AI - daily


User currently offlineNimish From India, joined Feb 2005, 3172 posts, RR: 9
Reply 14, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 3931 times:

Quoting LAXDESI (Thread starter):
The promotional economy fare is Rs 28,500 with a free domestic RT ticket or a free RT to Singapore!

Typical S2, to announce DEL-LHR when there's so much competition on this sector now! I hope they at least get into code-share with BA - so both sides can sell each others inventory - plus tag on to European/Domestic sectors as well.

With throwing in a free return trip to SIN - there go all yields on this route. But that should prove a huge incentive to get the flight going!

The lack of vision/planning is really glaring. This seems to be a publicity stunt to get their price bumped upwards.

Quoting LAXDESI (Reply 4):
He said Air Sahara, which had launched 12 additional flights during November, was planning to have a second daily flight to Singapore this winter season

I think he forgot to add the 4 daily flights BOM-MAA that got dropped.



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User currently offlineA300605R From Germany, joined Nov 2005, 136 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 3930 times:

Thanks for the update, VT-ASJ! Haven't know that yet.
Does BA usually use B744 for their flights into BOM or B772?



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User currently offlineConcorde001 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2005, 1230 posts, RR: 3
Reply 16, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 3919 times:

Quoting A300605R (Reply 15):
Does BA usually use B744 for their flights into BOM or B772?

BA use B744, which goes out PACKED most of the time!
VS use A343 and occasionally A346
AI use 744
9W use A343


User currently offlineSR 103 From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 1736 posts, RR: 39
Reply 17, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 3904 times:

Quoting LAXDESI (Thread starter):
where did they get this 767 from?

Its an ex UA 763. They shall be retaining the interior which is where the four classes come from.
First Class
Business Class
Economy Plus
Economy

SR 103


User currently offlineJaysit From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 3879 times:

Quoting Concorde001 (Reply 16):
Quoting A300605R (Reply 15):
Does BA usually use B744 for their flights into BOM or B772?

BA use B744, which goes out PACKED most of the time!

THey have 2 daily flights to BOM - a 744 and a 772.


User currently offlineNimish From India, joined Feb 2005, 3172 posts, RR: 9
Reply 19, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 3855 times:

Quoting SR 103 (Reply 17):
Its an ex UA 763

That's good news - means it may have Channel 9 enabled  Smile

Why is UA getting rid of 763s?



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User currently offlineWestWing From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 2125 posts, RR: 7
Reply 20, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 3845 times:

Do I have this right ?

LHR-BOM per-week (40 flights)

9W: 7x343
AI: 4x744, 4x777
BA: 7x744, 7x772
BD: 4x332
VS: 7x34*


LHR-DEL per-week (27 flights) ... excluding Sahara

9W: 7x343
AI: 6x744
BA: 7x744
VS: 7x343



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User currently offlineKahala777 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 3836 times:

Quoting LAXDESI (Reply 8):
Is 40 minutes enough to connect to Sahara flight to DEL at 9:00 p.m.?

Heathrow I believe is 1 hour 30, for a minimum connect.

KAHALA777


User currently offlineMD90fan From Bahamas, joined Jul 2005, 2931 posts, RR: 7
Reply 22, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 3836 times:

Quoting SR 103 (Reply 17):
Its an ex UA 763. They shall be retaining the interior which is where the four classes come from.
First Class
Business Class
Economy Plus
Economy

Ok I was wondering that

Quoting Nimish (Reply 19):
Why is UA getting rid of 763s?

I know first 777's now 763's , whats next 757's?"?  wink 



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User currently offlineLAXDESI From United States of America, joined May 2005, 5086 posts, RR: 48
Reply 23, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 3831 times:

Fare wars have begun on India-LHR sector. From an article in Economic Times:
Link:
http://www1.economictimes.indiatimes.com/articleshow/1313946.cms

Richard Branson’s Virgin Atlantic, which increased its flight frequency between Mumbai and London from three to seven per week from December 1, has come out with a special return economy offer of Rs 17,777, valid for travel till December 31, 2005. Booking deadlines for Virgin offer is December 15.
A return economy fare in British Airways, the market leader in the India-UK sector, is available for around Rs 30,500, while Air-India sells for around Rs 24,000, Jet Airways for around Rs 20,000, and BMI for Rs 19,000, all exclusive of taxes.

I am surprised that Jet fare is lower than that of AI by Rs 4,000 and BMI is lower by Rs 5,000. Can this be correct?


User currently offlineConcorde001 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2005, 1230 posts, RR: 3
Reply 24, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 3826 times:

Quoting Jaysit (Reply 18):
THey have 2 daily flights to BOM - a 744 and a 772

No - AI usually change their schedules. In December they only have two daily flights on a Saturday:
AI128 Dep 11:45
AI130 Dep 21:30

In February, AI operate the follwing to DEL from LHR, with double daily flights on Mon, Tue, Wed and Sat.
AI112 London New Delhi 0825 2210 744 0 All days except: Sat Sun
AI112 London New Delhi 0845 2230 744 0 Mon Tue Wed
AI128 London New Delhi 1145 0130 744 0 Sat
AI120 London New Delhi 1830 0815 744 0 Sat

In March, AI operate the following to DEL from LHR, with double daily going back to Sat only.
AI112 London New Delhi 0845 2230 744 0 Mon Tue Wed
AI112 London New Delhi 0945 2235 744 0 Thu Fri
AI128 London New Delhi 1145 0130 744 0 Sat
AI120 London New Delhi 1830 0815 744 0 Sat

No 777's are operated on the LHR - DEL routes - only on the LHR-BOM and BHX-ATQ-DEL!
I know AI usually fly LHR-BOM-DEL - but I have not included them as they are not direct!


25 Nimish : Wow, that's a really good deal - I checked random weekend dates online - and there was availability. The total fare incl. taxes is Rs.24,990/- and fu
26 Himmat01 : India has exhausted its bilateral quota for Thailand and Hongkong. I do not see how S2 will be able to fly into BKK or HKG unless the bilaterals are
27 DeltaGator : Geez! Around 550 USD for LHR-BOM roundtrip. That's amazing. I paid more than that for my ATL-MCO roundtrips. How much more from the US because I coul
28 Post contains images Nimish : Don't forget this is a 10 hour flight - and you earn about 4500 miles each way! Would it be good for a mileage run? Money - what's that? That's their
29 Post contains images HAWK21M : So why does the report say "Brand new". I know an airline that would be interested in B757s regds MEL
30 Feroze : I think the questioner (A300605R) was asking which aircraft BA sends to BOM, not AI. Jaysit answered correctly that BA has two daily flights (14/week
31 Jaysit : I wonder how the loads are on the BOM-LHR sector. In less than one year the capacity seems to have doubled.
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