Toulouse From Ireland, joined Apr 2005, 2719 posts, RR: 58 Posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 3581 times:
Ok, don't flame me for this which is probably a total "non-event" but just informing.
RTE 2FM radio just reporting (nothing on rte.ie or other news sources) that an EI flight bound for Milan from Dub this morning had to evacuate passengers through the emergency exits just prior to takeoff when pilots reported smoke in cockpit.
All fine. Nothing else to report. Just informing you.
Toulouse From Ireland, joined Apr 2005, 2719 posts, RR: 58 Reply 2, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 3559 times:
Quoting BestWestern (Reply 1): BestWestern From Bouvet Island, joined Sep 2000, 2468 posts, RR: 38
Reply 1, posted Thu Dec 1 2005 09:38:27 UTC+1 and read 4 times:
Thanks for the link Bestwestern. I checked www.rte.ie and didn't see the news myself!
And on a side note Bestwestern, you see this only demonstrates my conviction that EI really needs to get some 319's or even 318's, I mean it seems a very low load factor for what I would imagine doesn't even fall into the provincial routes, I mean only 61 pax on EI's maximum configured 320's, not great, even for the winter! Maybe that would get TLS back to year-round. Yesterday I went to collect someone arriving from DUB with FR at Carcassonne, very good loads from what I could see, and I even recognised two passengers I had seen before on some of my TLS-DUB flights... so I wonder has EI put it's foot in it doing away with TLS-DUB for the winter as regular passengers will just start using FR from Carcassonne, only 45 minutes from Toulouse... Sad as I'm a loyal EI flyer.
Toulouse From Ireland, joined Apr 2005, 2719 posts, RR: 58 Reply 4, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 3490 times:
From what they're saying on the radio, the plane was about to takeoff, so one would imagine on runway, yet that would lead to terrible delays at Dublin which I haven't heard of, so maybe it still hadn't reached the runway.
Apparently 1 fire alarm went off, and emergency chutes were deployed. One crew member was slightly injured (don't know what or when, I imagine during evacuation). Everyone else is fine.
Orion737 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 5, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 3474 times:
I agree that the 320 is far too large for many of EIs routes. Now the 735s have left they dont have a smaller aircraft to deploy on less dense routes or to launch new destinations or increase frequencies. Very silly of EI to move to all 320/321 fleet when it is apparent they do still require a smaller capacity aircraft.
BestWestern From Ireland, joined Sep 2000, 6439 posts, RR: 58 Reply 6, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 3457 times:
Quoting Toulouse (Reply 2): And on a side note Bestwestern, you see this only demonstrates my conviction that EI really needs to get some 319's or even 318's, I mean it seems a very low load factor for what I would imagine doesn't even fall into the provincial routes, I mean only 61 pax on EI's maximum configured 320's
The period between Thanksgiving and December 15th is a real quiet time of the year. I flew from Heathrow yesterday with BD, and the flight was empty also (about 100 empty seats).
However, I fully agree with you regarding the A320 being too big for EI - their next order should be for a dozen A319s. Perhaps the Boeing brigade has got to me, but isn't the A318 a dog?
Orion737 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 8, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 3392 times:
Well the 318/319 would still enable fleet commonality but be more suitable for mid day frequencies on prime routes and for regional airports with less traffic. They would also be good for starting new destinations until traffic builds up.
EI747SYDNEY From Ireland, joined Oct 2005, 687 posts, RR: 0 Reply 9, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 3337 times:
Quoting BestWestern (Reply 6): The period between Thanksgiving and December 15th is a real quiet time of the year. I flew from Heathrow yesterday with BD, and the flight was empty also (about 100 empty seats).
I know, I was on EI LHR-DUB yesterday morning and the flight was about 30% full.
Rob
''Live life on the edge, Live each and every day like it's your last, Hell you only live once''
Toulouse From Ireland, joined Apr 2005, 2719 posts, RR: 58 Reply 10, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 3314 times:
Quoting Orion737 (Reply 5): Very silly of EI to move to all 320/321 fleet when it is apparent they do still require a smaller capacity aircraft.
Yes, and it certainly will have been "silly" of them if they don't convert some of their remaining 320 options for 319's (or 318's)...
Quoting BestWestern (Reply 6): However, I fully agree with you regarding the A320 being too big for EI - their next order should be for a dozen A319s. Perhaps the Boeing brigade has got to me, but isn't the A318 a dog?
Yep, personnally having travelled on the 318 as a passenger a few times, I loved it, but whether it is a viable choice for most airlines, I don't know.
Quoting BestWestern (Reply 7): Still believe in the 787 for EI though, although Airbus are probably going to do a short/long haul fleet deal.
No comment! You know I'm all in favour of the 350. Nothing against Boeing. Just think Airbus has become a great provider for EI.
Quoting Orion737 (Reply 8): Well the 318/319 would still enable fleet commonality but be more suitable for mid day frequencies on prime routes and for regional airports with less traffic. They would also be good for starting new destinations until traffic builds up.
BestWestern From Ireland, joined Sep 2000, 6439 posts, RR: 58 Reply 12, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 3222 times:
Quoting ClassicLover (Reply 11): each time I have flown DUB-LHR-DUB (3 times in 5 months), the flights have been full
I fly LHR DUB LHR peak flights once a week with BD, and the flights are never 100% full. It's interesting to notice that EI are bumping standby's when BD can have 50 empty seats.
BD 60% EI 100% many Wednesday evenings ex Heathrow. True, the midweek 11am - 4pm flights in early December are always less than half full this time of the year.
The only reason that I'm flying BMI at the moment is to renew my *Gold.. once thats done, I'll probably end up back on EI - more punctual.
BestWestern From Ireland, joined Sep 2000, 6439 posts, RR: 58 Reply 13, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 3195 times:
Quoting Toulouse (Reply 10): You know I'm all in favour of the 350
A user name like Toulouse kinda gives it away (BTW my brother lives in TLS, what a great city).
I'll be very very surprised if EI go for the 787 option, as they now love airbus. However, I think its more suited to their requirements.
The A320/1 is such a wonderful aircraft, with Ryanair killing the 737 (and boeing?) perception of quality in Ireland. Flew with SK recently to OSL, and it was the first time in a long while that I've had to travel on a 'full service' 737 - the aircraft seem dark and crampt compared to the 32x. Even the U2 73G's seem so much more tight when compared to their 319s.
Toulouse From Ireland, joined Apr 2005, 2719 posts, RR: 58 Reply 14, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 2960 times:
Quoting BestWestern (Reply 13): L, and it was the first time in a long while that I've had to travel on a 'full service' 737 - the aircraft seem dark and crampt compared to the 32x. Even the U2 73G's seem so much more tight when compared to their 319s.
Totally agree with you. Now don't get me wrong Boeing fans, how can anyone dislike the good old 737... all those memories of childhood holidays on 737-200's which seemed sooo modern compared to the BAC 1-11's, Tridents, 727's and even EI 707's I had a few times to AGP from DUB. But I do find the A320 family cabins to seem so much more comfortable and spacious to the 737's (both classics and NG's), and as you said, they always seem brighter...???
Good to hear you brother is in Toulouse and you like the city. A great place to live and quite cosmopolitan.
Btriple7 From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 1139 posts, RR: 9 Reply 16, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 2634 times:
I lost you at the dog part. Maybe I've been in America too long. Anyway, I know the A318 is a rip-off when it comes to fuel economy. For the distances EI flies with its shorthaul aircraft, the A318 is not in EI's best interest. I would suggest EI going with an A319 (The capacity v. fuel economy is much better than the A318) or some RJs.
Darrenthe747 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 17, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 2297 times:
I lived in Ireland during my childhood and immigrated to the US when I was a kid so I feel a certain loyalty to Aer Lingus. I used to fly on them all the time between DUB and LHR to catch connecting flights on PanAm to SFO. Anyway, over the past few years while stationed in Germany I flew on EI many times between FRA and DUB and every single flight I was on I had the entire row to myself. They were never filling up the airplanes. At first when I moved to germany in 2002 the were using a 737-500. then around late 2004 they started using an a320.
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You know I'm all in favour of the 350. Nothing against Boeing. Just think Airbus has become a great provider for EI.
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