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Porlamar Airport Renovation Update  
User currently offlineChiguire From Venezuela, joined Sep 2004, 2004 posts, RR: 16
Posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 2540 times:

Here some updates on Porlamar (Margarita Island – Venezuela) airport. The airport is owned by the swiss-chilean consortium Unique IDC.
A complete renovation has now finally started.
The whole front was broken down in order to get some more space and more window space to create a nicer atmosphere. Apart of that the trees in from of the building have been taken away. A good decision because thousands of birds were shitting on the cars and the passengers.
The works on that will NOT be finished for X-mas, but by the end of January.

On the pictures you can see:



- 4 airbridges will be added.
- the domestic and international terminal will be linked








Personally I like the T7 from Conviasa and I would be happy to see LH, LA and BA (check in area in drawings) and HP, HF, NW and AA to fly to PMV. Although I doubt HF could do with the 737.

Another main change will be, that the gates will be moved to the first floor, leaving the ground floor for shops and check-in only. The airbridges can be used from the international as well as from the domestic terminal.

The whole work is scheduled to be finished by the end of 2006 and includes also a new car rental pavilion with enhanced parking areas.

The passenger figures will increase from about 961.000 in 2004 to about 1.200.000 in 2005 and 1.500.000 in 2006.

Currently there are charter flights from:
- FRA (4x weekly DE 767)
- AMS (3xweekly MP 767)
- CPH (1xweekly MP 767)
- PRG (1 weekly ? )
- LON/MAN (1xweekly 767)
- HEL (1 weekly Air Finnland ?)
- YUL (2x weekly A330 AirTransat)
- YTO (1 weekly A330 AirTransat)
- BOG (1 weekly MD82 P5)

In talks:
MAD (1 weekly either Air Pulmanntour or Air Plus Comet 747)
MOW (1 weekly unknown)

For Summer 2006 there will probably be charters from LIM, EZE and SCL.

Regards
 santahat 

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User currently offlineAlcregular From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 2515 times:

Wow, it will be totally different to when I visited in 2001. I think they only had about two departure gates when I was there. I hope the baggage reclaim will be bigger too, was very small too.

User currently offline797 From Venezuela, joined Aug 2005, 1894 posts, RR: 27
Reply 2, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 2496 times:

Nice Chiguire!

I went to Margarita a month ago and it was pretty raw. They closed the front side of the airport in order to start re-building, but I did see the pictures and the modeled-airport.

Before the last time I went to PMV was 9 years ago, and let me tell you, it is a beautiful place. The beaches and the ambient are amazing, plus the Sambil Mall that WILL leave people amused!

I'm very glad to see Margarita having a change, even though our government is very crappy. I'd love to see heavies arriving at all times, just like AUA and SXM.

Next time I go to PMV I'll bring some pictures.

BTW, a friend of mine has a unique spot place at Rwy. 10, so next time I go I'll check out these charter wide-bodies landing over me!

Saludos!



Flying isn't dangerous. Crashing is what's dangerous!
User currently offlineLamedianaranja From Venezuela, joined Nov 2004, 1246 posts, RR: 21
Reply 3, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 2489 times:

Looks good! CCS also looks good after the works but is a very dangerous airport (robberies, fake taxi-drivers). How is PMV in that aspect? Because I prefer a safe airport to a pretty airport.

And I really hope they'll also invest in lots of staff, and that they speak English! That's what's important for a tourist: to go smoothly, without waiting in long queues, getting an answer in English when asking for something, in total: good service. Not only from the airline but very importantly, also from the airport.



I wish that all skies were orange and blue!!
User currently offlineVenezuela747 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 1428 posts, RR: 5
Reply 4, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 2459 times:

Hey guys anyone know what is going at Maracaibo? I was watching Univision news and they said a small private plane had crshed approaching the runway, two people dead.

Hopefully someone in Venezuela can give us some more info



ROLL TIDE!!!
User currently offline797 From Venezuela, joined Aug 2005, 1894 posts, RR: 27
Reply 5, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 2429 times:

Quoting Lamedianaranja (Reply 3):
CCS also looks good after the works but is a very dangerous airport (robberies, fake taxi-drivers). How is PMV in that aspect? Because I prefer a safe airport to a pretty airport.

1) I think CCS look amazing after the remodelation. It's heading to be a world-class airport, with its limitations ofcourse, and will improve to further goals.

2) CCS is not that dangerous. I don't know these fake stories. I've never had a single problem down there considering I travel at least 7-10 times a year. As I usually say, "If you don't look for danger, it won't come to you"

3) PMV doesn't have that problem. The only bad thing I can sincerely say are the rottin'-taxies. I think there is some kind of program to eliminate them. Damn they're ugly!

Viva Venezuela!

Saludos



Flying isn't dangerous. Crashing is what's dangerous!
User currently offlineRICARIZA From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 2391 posts, RR: 26
Reply 6, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 2422 times:

Congratulations! Its going to look very nice...
Do you have pics of CCS? I would love to see the renovations..

I am glad to see good news coming from Venezuela...!



I miss ACES, I am proud of AVIANCA & I am loyal to AMERICAN
User currently offlineLamedianaranja From Venezuela, joined Nov 2004, 1246 posts, RR: 21
Reply 7, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 2393 times:

Quoting 797 (Reply 5):
As I usually say, "If you don't look for danger, it won't come to you"

It's not fair to blame the victim. You are saying something like 'she asked for it' and that's a very denigrating attitude.

Trusting, naive tourists are being ripped off by fake-taxi drivers. If lucky they just pay too much for their trip. If unlucky, they get robbed on the highway, accused of drug-trafficking, separated from their families by corrupt officials and I can name a few more.

But they're working on it! This article in Spanish shows some measure that are being taken:
http://buscador.eluniversal.com/2005/09/25/ccs_art_25405D.shtml

So we'll be happy to visit Venezuela again next summer  airplane 



I wish that all skies were orange and blue!!
User currently offlineChiguire From Venezuela, joined Sep 2004, 2004 posts, RR: 16
Reply 8, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 2321 times:

Quoting 797 (Reply 5):

CCS is not that dangerous. I don't know these fake stories. I've never had a single problem down there considering I travel at least 7-10 times a year. As I usually say, "If you don't look for danger, it won't come to you"

Although I have heard about those problems, I don`t think they are really big. And 797 is right. Those ones that want to save some 10.000 Bs (4 US$) and don`t take the official taxis might get some trouble. I feel absolutely save in CCS.

Quoting 797 (Reply 5):
3) PMV doesn't have that problem. The only bad thing I can sincerely say are the rottin'-taxies. I think there is some kind of program to eliminate them. Damn they're ugly!

You are right. The programe from GNE only allows official taxis from the airport. You see them on the picture above. They are black and quite new. It was about time to welcome the tourists in a better way than with taxis from the 70s !


User currently offlineBBJII From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2005, 850 posts, RR: 4
Reply 9, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 2304 times:

Looks Impressive.

Question about the Model:

1 - do the carriers models who's aircraft featured serve the airport?
2 - the aircraft between the TUI 737 and the AA777 (?), who are they?



 wave 



Remember: The Bird Hit You, You Didn't Hit The Bird.....
User currently offlineRICARIZA From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 2391 posts, RR: 26
Reply 10, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 2294 times:

Quoting BBJII (Reply 9):
the aircraft between the TUI 737 and the AA777 (?), who are they?

That's Conviasa, the Venezuelan Government airline but it seems like a 777 which doesn't have.  Wink

Quoting BBJII (Reply 9):
1 - do the carriers models who's aircraft featured serve the airport?

Doubt it, not only for the Conviasa 777  Smile but also because America West (USAirways) doesn't fly to Margarita.



I miss ACES, I am proud of AVIANCA & I am loyal to AMERICAN
User currently offlineChiguire From Venezuela, joined Sep 2004, 2004 posts, RR: 16
Reply 11, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 2266 times:

Quoting BBJII (Reply 9):
do the carriers models who's aircraft featured serve the airport?

Only Aeropostal.... and they don't have 737.
But I guess this model was built in Swizzerland, otherwise there wouldn't be doubledecker busses. On the rights side of the building (cut on the photo) there is even a dutch style motorhome. Apart of that, three Porsches...there is not even one registered in Nueva Esparta..


User currently offlineChiguire From Venezuela, joined Sep 2004, 2004 posts, RR: 16
Reply 12, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 1 day ago) and read 2231 times:

I just found out who ist operating the PRG-PMV charter. It's CSA itself every Wednesday:

http://www.planes.cz/data/fotografie/51118_BTCELVIL.jpg

http://www.planes.cz/foto1.asp?mode=detail&id=BTCELVIL&jazyk=cz


User currently offlineLuisde8cd From Pitcairn Islands, joined Aug 2004, 2571 posts, RR: 31
Reply 13, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 2221 times:

Quoting Lamedianaranja (Reply 3):
CCS also looks good after the works but is a very dangerous airport (robberies, fake taxi-drivers).

I wouldn't call it VERY dangerous airport. It's a typical airport in Latin America regarding crime.

Quoting 797 (Reply 5):
2) CCS is not that dangerous. I don't know these fake stories. I've never had a single problem down there considering I travel at least 7-10 times a year. As I usually say, "If you don't look for danger, it won't come to you"

Enrique, CCS isn't either the safest thing on earth. It's dangerous for naive tourist, we can't deny that. All those fake taxi drivers and fake currency exchange dudes that approach you as soon as you leave the baggage claim areaare there to rob the most naive ones.

Quoting Chiguire (Thread starter):
- BOG (1 weekly MD82 P5)

Did AV cancelled their weekly MD80s charters? Last time I was in PMV (March 2004), my DC9 took off behind an AV MD80.

Quoting Chiguire (Thread starter):
Personally I like the T7 from Conviasa

Looks weird to see a widebody in Conviasa colors, hehe. By the way I heard on the radio that they are planning to start flying to MAD from CCS and PMV starting on January 15th 2006. According to the news they've already begun the ticket sale. The weird thing is that Conviasa's crappy website doesn't say a word about it.

Saludos desde Caracas,
Luis


User currently offlineCharvett From Venezuela, joined May 2001, 82 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 2215 times:

Well:

About airlines flying to PMV it will be possible to see:
American
Avianca
BMI
LTU
COPA
LAN


User currently offlineChiguire From Venezuela, joined Sep 2004, 2004 posts, RR: 16
Reply 15, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 2180 times:

Quoting Luisde8cd (Reply 13):
According to the news they've already begun the ticket sale. The weird thing is that Conviasa's crappy website doesn't say a word about it.

I wonder how they are selling....the GDS still don't show the flights.
And, again, THEY CANT'T fly by themselves - ETOPS.
So IF they do, it's operated by or codeshared with (UX) somebody. As a lot of people were very surprised by the quick codeshare cancellation from UX with VH, I would not be surprised to see V0 codeshare with UX.

Quoting Charvett (Reply 14):
About airlines flying to PMV it will be possible to see:
American
Avianca
BMI
LTU
COPA
LAN

American - landing rights refused from Venezuela
Avianca - was already there as Luis mentioned and with the increasing tourism it's very probable that they return.
BMI - why ? there are enough charter carrier that are more focused on this kind of low yield tourism
LTU - never ! Condor is there and LTU has no equipment. It's not even sure that they survive the winter.
COPA - hmmm...maybe for some tourists that transit through PTY
LAN - is already there sometimes with charters from SCL and might be back next summer anyway.

I am more waiting for:
Edelweiss A330 from ZRH (is still planned)
Blue Panorama 767 from MXP and ROM (is rumored)
Air Pullmantur 747 from MAD (is planned form March 06)
Aeroflot 767 from MOW (is planned for Jan 06)
Varig 737 from MAO (was already working in the past)
amongst others.

Regards

 santahat 


User currently offline797 From Venezuela, joined Aug 2005, 1894 posts, RR: 27
Reply 16, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 2151 times:

Quoting Chiguire (Reply 15):
I am more waiting for:
Edelweiss A330 from ZRH (is still planned)
Blue Panorama 767 from MXP and ROM (is rumored)
Air Pullmantur 747 from MAD (is planned form March 06)
Aeroflot 767 from MOW (is planned for Jan 06)
Varig 737 from MAO (was already working in the past)
amongst others.

Pretty Interesting.

I know Margarita is a famous place for Europeans, especially in Italy and Switzerland. I can say it because I lived there for a year and I was kind of famous because I was Venezuelan  Smile So, I wouldn't be surprised to see Blue Panorama, which is growing pretty fast (787s coming) and Edelweiss from ZRH could represent a big load of Northern European people.

I don't know if Air Pullmantur's 747 would be a bit to big for PMV, but who knows! Also, Aeroflot would be kind of weird, but I'd love to see it. I think they'd send one of their 777s! bigthumbsup 

I think we have a bigger potential of tourism in Margarita now... Let's hope for the best!



Flying isn't dangerous. Crashing is what's dangerous!
User currently offline757MDE From Colombia, joined Sep 2004, 1753 posts, RR: 6
Reply 17, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 2142 times:

Quoting 797 (Reply 16):
Aeroflot would be kind of weird, but I'd love to see it. I think they'd send one of their 777s! bigthumbsup

I think Aeroflot doesn't have 777s anymore, could anyone confirm?

Quoting 797 (Reply 16):
I think we have a bigger potential of tourism in Margarita now... Let's hope for the best!

Ditto, I have a familiar living there like 20 years ago, I hope I can visit it someday when I'm no longer poor!



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User currently offlineCharvett From Venezuela, joined May 2001, 82 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 2116 times:

Chigure:

Thank's for the info... long time without flying to PMV.
So I don't know the trends...


User currently offlineLehpron From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 7028 posts, RR: 21
Reply 19, posted (8 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 2094 times:

See, I like only those types of plane models with REALISTIC landing gear as on of the best features of an airplane.


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