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Air Force One Flight Deck  
User currently offlineAM From Mexico, joined Oct 1999, 600 posts, RR: 2
Posted (15 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 2149 times:

Does anyone have an idea about how the Air Force One flight deck is? Is it an unchanged 747-200 analogue gauge cockpit or is it EFIS equipped? Two or three pilot crew?


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User currently offlinePilot1113 From United States of America, joined Aug 1999, 2333 posts, RR: 11
Reply 1, posted (15 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 2102 times:

The flight deck of AF1 is EFIS equipped and is the most highly advanced cockpit for a civilan airliner.

However, it still retains the Flight Engineer and his panel.

As someone said before, "it's a 744 disguised as a 743..."

- Neil Harrison

User currently offlineCstarU From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (15 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 2094 times:

...it's actually a four man crew with a navigator.

User currently offlineNa From Germany, joined Dec 1999, 11588 posts, RR: 9
Reply 3, posted (15 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 2088 times:

"A 744 disguised as a 742", you mean...

The two (747-)AF-1s have the 744 GE-engines what is very distinctive to other 742s.

By the way: At the end of the 747 Classic production-line Boeing produced some 747s that already had some features of the 747-400, like Egyptair´s pair of 743s, Martinair´s 742F, LH´s last 742F and All Nippon´s last 742s with the 744 wingroot or Varig´s last 743s with the new GE-engines.

User currently offlineCitation From Sweden, joined Nov 2005, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (15 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 2068 times:

The basis of the AF1 is 747-200, not the -300. I worked on the Air Force One project for Boeing in Wichita, Kansas for a few months in the late 80s. The AF did not want the 747-300 even though it was certified at the time of the bid proposal submittals. The -300 did not have enough service experience to meet the bid proposal specifications. The competition was between the DC-10 and the 747-200.
BTW, the only reason the 747-200 AF1 has in flight refueling capability is because the DC-10 couldn't meet the AF1 range requirement, so the AF revised the spec to require all bidders to include in flight refueling (and keep the DC-10 in the competition) even though the 747-200 did not need refueling to meet the requirement.

User currently offlinePH-BZA From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (15 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 2062 times:

So why did the 742 win in the end? What were some of the advantages of the DC-10 over the 742 to allow it to be considered also?

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