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Piece Of A330 Landing Gear Falls On House Near DTW  
User currently onlineD L X From United States of America, joined May 1999, 11432 posts, RR: 52
Posted (8 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day ago) and read 14834 times:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/wdiv/20051202/lo_wdiv/3097199

Wow! How often do pieces or airplanes fall off in flight?


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User currently offlineBMIFlyer From UK - England, joined Feb 2004, 8810 posts, RR: 58
Reply 1, posted (8 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day ago) and read 14801 times:

Ouch, anyone have a pic of that kind of Bolt??


Lee



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User currently offlineRichardPrice From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (8 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day ago) and read 14776 times:

Quoting D L X (Thread starter):
Wow! How often do pieces or airplanes fall off in flight?

Quite often actually, I can think of a couple dozen incidents that I know of personally, including Concorde losing pieces  Smile

Part falls from BA 777

Concorde rudder part falls off

747 lands after engine falls apart in flight

Just a few links for you.


User currently offlineA319XFW From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (8 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day ago) and read 14741 times:

There is the lovely pic of a nacelle missing (in flight pic from cabin) from an engine - someone forgot to latch it fully and it broke off in flight. The lavs must have been well visited on that flight!

User currently offlineSlider From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 6865 posts, RR: 34
Reply 4, posted (8 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day ago) and read 14716 times:

I remember when part of the gear door off a TWA L-1011 fell off over downtown STL...landed right on a busy street, fortunately not killing or injuring anyone.

User currently offlineFalcon flyer From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 1329 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (8 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day ago) and read 14640 times:

Kalitta Air dumped an engine into Lake Michigan on a 100 series 747 climbing out of ORD back in October 2004.


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User currently offlineBR076 From Netherlands, joined May 2005, 1086 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (8 years 10 months 4 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 14565 times:

Quoting D L X (Thread starter):
Wow! How often do pieces or airplanes fall off in flight?

Never watched Donnie Darko?  Wink

Can Someone Explain Donnie Darko To Me? (by Newark777 Dec 1 2005 in Non Aviation)#ID1021167



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User currently offlineM404 From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 2227 posts, RR: 5
Reply 7, posted (8 years 10 months 4 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 14538 times:
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I'd love to see how they have traced it to that flight number already. Just to see the line of investigation would be interesting and informative.


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User currently offlineDouglasDC8 From Australia, joined Dec 2007, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (8 years 10 months 4 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 14525 times:

United lost a fueling panel cover off a DC-10 while it was on approach to Newark a while back. The fueler in Dulles failed to secure it properly. The cover then hit a NJ Transit commuter train! Train travel can be dangerous!

Imagine that-a DC10 From IAD to EWR!!! Those were the days!


User currently offlineRichardPrice From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (8 years 10 months 4 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 14402 times:

Quoting M404 (Reply 7):
I'd love to see how they have traced it to that flight number already. Just to see the line of investigation would be interesting and informative.

It probably went something like this:

1. police pick up part.
2. part taken to maintenance hanger at DTW.
3. part identified as A330.
4. tower records show what airlines and flights used A330s around the time the incident happened on saturday
5. airlines contacted to check their A330s
6. missing part discovered.


or, alternatively the airline could have found the part missing on a routine maintenance check at the start of hte week, or the captains walk, or the police simply rang up Airbus who said 'yeah, that parts serial says it was sold to airline X.'


User currently onlineD L X From United States of America, joined May 1999, 11432 posts, RR: 52
Reply 10, posted (8 years 10 months 4 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 14345 times:

I'm pretty sure I read another report before they knew where the part came from that said the part has a unique identifier on it that would tell investigators exactly what plane the part came from. Neat, ain't it?


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User currently offlineMarshalN From Hong Kong, joined Sep 2005, 1521 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (8 years 10 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 14187 times:

Hmmm, DTW, A330..... is this another bad PR about NW's new mechanics?

User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21544 posts, RR: 59
Reply 12, posted (8 years 10 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 14164 times:

Quoting D L X (Reply 11):
I'm pretty sure I read another report before they knew where the part came from that said the part has a unique identifier on it that would tell investigators exactly what plane the part came from. Neat, ain't it?

that's becoming quite common.



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User currently offlineKDTWFlyer From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 830 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (8 years 10 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 14102 times:

Great, im going on a NW A333 in a few weeks. Anyway, check out these Kalitta pics of the missing engine...






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User currently offlineTornado82 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (8 years 10 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 14023 times:

Quoting MarshalN (Reply 12):
Hmmm, DTW, A330..... is this another bad PR about NW's new mechanics?

Wow we made it all the way to reply 12 before someone made the obligatory  butthead  comment. I'm so impressed.  sarcastic 


User currently offlineTrnsWrld From United States of America, joined May 1999, 949 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (8 years 10 months 4 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 13466 times:

Quoting KDTWFlyer (Reply 14):
Great, im going on a NW A333 in a few weeks.

and your point being? you act as if the aircraft is unsafe or something.


User currently offlineVegasplanes From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 778 posts, RR: 2
Reply 16, posted (8 years 10 months 4 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 13206 times:

Quoting Falcon flyer (Reply 5):
Kalitta Air dumped an engine into Lake Michigan on a 100 series 747 climbing out of ORD back in October 2004.

That's good they made it to the airport after losing an engine, re: AA DC-10, Flt. 191 I believe, they didn't fare as well.


User currently offlineKDTWFlyer From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 830 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (8 years 10 months 4 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 12919 times:

Quoting TrnsWrld (Reply 16):

and your point being? you act as if the aircraft is unsafe or something.

I was being sarcastic, but still things shouldn't being falling off airliners.



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User currently offlineWhiteHatter From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (8 years 10 months 4 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 12886 times:

Quoting KDTWFlyer (Reply 18):
I was being sarcastic, but still things shouldn't being falling off airliners.

do you know how many parts an airliner has?

Things work loose over time, and daily maintenance/inspection can't cover every single one of them. Losing the odd part here and there is all part of everyday operations, and sometimes the parts are not even missed due to redundancy and overdesign.


User currently offlineKDTWFlyer From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 830 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (8 years 10 months 4 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 12807 times:

So your saying things should be falling off airliners?


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User currently offlineNewark777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 9348 posts, RR: 29
Reply 20, posted (8 years 10 months 4 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 12462 times:

Quoting Vegasplanes (Reply 17):
That's good they made it to the airport after losing an engine, re: AA DC-10, Flt. 191 I believe, they didn't fare as well.

That flight didn't crash because of the engine falling off. It crashed because the slats, I believe, on the wing with the missing engine retracted, causing that wing to stall when the plane didn't go fast enough. I'm sure you know what happened once that occurred.

Harry



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User currently offlineWeb From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 427 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (8 years 10 months 4 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 12379 times:

Did the lady have to return the bolt? 'Cause I would have wanted to keep it...


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User currently offlineN808NW From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 374 posts, RR: 5
Reply 22, posted (8 years 10 months 4 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 12249 times:

wow... that happend just a few days before I flew on NW 31 on tuseday. NW A330s are truly the best aircraft i have ever been on!!


-Jason  swirl 



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User currently offlineCVG2LGA From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 633 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (8 years 10 months 4 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 12150 times:

what goes up must come down
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User currently offlineMarshalN From Hong Kong, joined Sep 2005, 1521 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (8 years 10 months 4 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 11922 times:

Quoting Tornado82 (Reply 15):
Wow we made it all the way to reply 12 before someone made the obligatory comment. I'm so impressed.

Thanks for your equally  butthead  comment. I actually couldn't care less one way or the other what happens with NW or what not. I am neither anti nor pro NW (or their unions). I just think that in light of the string of little incidents that got magnified by the press on NW's maintenance, this is just another piece of news they don't need. What's so  butthead  about that?


25 Warszawa : Any plane has parts that fall off over time. I fly a C-172 3 times a week, students fly it also and its always in the air along with plenty of other
26 Post contains images MD80fanatic : Wait a minute, if a bolt falls off and leaves a 8 inch hole in the roof of a house, what do you think it would do to a car on the freeway? to a pedest
27 Tornado82 : Umm... at MOST it would be involuntary manslaughter. And that's only if they could prove beyond a reasonable doubt that someone individually was enti
28 MD80fanatic : Correct, sorry about that. Poor choice of terms on my part. These things should never happen. F1 racers always seem to keep their wheels unless involv
29 DeltaGator : Ah, the dreaded 3 engine landing in a 747.
30 JarheadK5 : BIG difference between landing a 747 on 3 with an engine shut down, and landing a 747 on 3 with an engine that has physically removed itself from the
31 Post contains images RichardPrice : I agree. There was this little matter of a wear strip from a DC-10 in 2000 that caused some issue....
32 BA747400 : Granted this is probably just a myth, I once heard that the Concord looses 11 parts for every flight....a screw, a bolt, etc.... Anyone else heard thi
33 TinkerBelle : A FEDEX DC-10 lost an engine cowling while climbing out of OAK and pilots didn't realize it until they landed at DFW. This was about a year ago. I thi
34 WhiteHatter : Try getting a job in the industry then. Your comment is laughable. Hundreds of thousands of parts, temperature changes of up to a hundred degrees ins
35 MD80fanatic : At A.net, there seems to be this idea that only the airplane matters....if stuff falls off, no big deal since there is redundancy. Understood and agr
36 Dl1011 : As long as the public can get cheap fares, who cares if a couple of parts fall off? Actually, less parts equals less weight which means lower fuel bur
37 Post contains images Warszawa : WhiteHatter is exactly correct. Losing screws is not a problem that needs to be fixed on an immediate basis, unless a significant number of screws is
38 MD80fanatic : Is there no aviation equivalent to LokTite? I'm sure the airlines do not fear being sued by typically lower income folks who live under airport approa
39 GDB : BA747400, whoever told you that Concorde (the 'e' since 1967), lost 11 parts per flight, was talking total BS. How likely does it sound? Really? One p
40 N79969 : It is not particularly rare or unusual for things to occasionally come loose and fall off. I do not think the problem can ever be entirely eliminated
41 NASCARAirforce : Didn't Spirit lose part of an engine on one of their MD-80s on approach to DTW over Dearborn a couple years back?
42 Crjflyer35 : I agree also, at the same time I understand what WhiteHatter is saying. S**T is gonna happen, no matter what you do. Regarding AA191, the cause of th
43 Jumpseat70 : In 1970, the 747's would lose a nacelle on a weekly basis, until we resolved the problem. It seems they, the nacelles, had 11,000 more screws than the
44 Thegooddoctor : This is true, things shouldn't be falling off of airliners. Airliners shouldn't crash because of mechanical problems either. Trains should not derail
45 JarheadK5 : Been in the industry, military and civilian, since '93. What do YOU do? I don't expect NOTHING to work loose, I expect that it be FIXED before it fal
46 NASCARAirforce : Surprised the SCAB mechanic comment didn't come up yet for Northwest.
47 ContnlEliteCMH : I can never get a real bead on you. Sometimes you say poignant things; sometimes you're a loon. And today, you're a loon. Or you've been drinking. Ei
48 ContnlEliteCMH : No, see, in principle you *plan* for parts to come off. You don't need to work in the industry or on an aircraft. You merely need the least rigorous
49 Post contains images AirRyan : Scab? What are you talking about? NW mechanics are no longer represented by AMFA and in case your still holding your breath out there in the cold (ve
50 LTBEWR : All of us agree that no parts should be falling off aircraft, but humans are involved in mx and none of us are perfect. I would also suggest that bad
51 M404 : NASCARAirforce See comment 11
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