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US Airways Rotunda At SFO Closes Permanently  
User currently offlineFCYTravis From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 1191 posts, RR: 6
Posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 6462 times:

The end of an era... the last US Airways flights left the former PSA rotunda at SFO's Terminal 1 on Wednesday. As of yesterday, US (and Midwest Airlines) have moved their operations to America West's five-gate rotunda in Terminal 1.

Now SFO can finally do what they've been wanting to do for years... demolish that nearly-vacant wing and open up the blocked International Terminal gates. Still, another piece of California aviation history is going, going, gone...


USAir A321 service now departing for SFO with fuel stops in CAK, COS and RNO. Enjoy your flight.
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User currently offlineContinentalfan From United States of America, joined Oct 2000, 355 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 6430 times:

I can't believe it took the HP-US merger to do it. Not like there was a shortage of gates seeing as how the entire former intl. terminal sits empty.

User currently offlineFCYTravis From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 1191 posts, RR: 6
Reply 2, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 6396 times:

The former International Terminal is indefinitely closed. US Airways wasn't exactly in the position of being able to fork over a bunch of cash to renovate and open new gates in a closed terminal.


USAir A321 service now departing for SFO with fuel stops in CAK, COS and RNO. Enjoy your flight.
User currently offlineAS739X From United States of America, joined Apr 2003, 5816 posts, RR: 23
Reply 3, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 6395 times:

Thanks goodness. Sorry but it was an eye-sore and now 3 more Int'l gates will be available.

ASLAX


"Some pilots avoid storm cells and some play connect the dots!"
User currently offlineDeltaflyertoo From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 1589 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 6366 times:

OMG

How sad. Indeed the end of an era. Gosh I remember as a kid going there like once a month when it was PSA as my parents came and went or would pick someone up. I remember USAIR has the lone gate the third one over on the left where there like 3 daily 727 flights to PIT would come and go from. Up in the actual rotunda you had Continental and AIr Canada as well. It wasn't uncommon for CO to have a DC-10 and AIrbus 300 parked there as well as MD-80, 727s and 737s for Houston, Denver and New Orleans. AFter like 5pm in the evening this terminal was packed. Even after the USAIR/PSA merger it was hustle bustle, everything just became USAIR and then Piedmont moved over as well. I have to say with all the high frequency of flights w/ PSA/USAIR merged and the jumbos w/ CO and Air Canda, this was probably one of the busiest terminals in all of SFO. I guess the last 10 years this terminal has been pretty quiet.

User currently offlineCadet57 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 9081 posts, RR: 34
Reply 5, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 6361 times:

can someone gimme some background as to why this is historic? and really tragic? also some pictures maybe?


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User currently onlineByrdluvs747 From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 2138 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days ago) and read 6211 times:

How many gates will the new HP/US have in the T1 rotunda?


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User currently offlineQuickmover From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 2464 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days ago) and read 6190 times:

"I remember USAIR has the lone gate the third one over on the left where there like 3 daily 727 flights to PIT would come and go from"


Wow. That has to be a stretch for a 727 distance wise (at least westbound).

User currently offlineFCYTravis From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 1191 posts, RR: 6
Reply 8, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 6138 times:

Byrd, they've got six gates in that rotunda... Every time I've flown HP out of SFO they've always had that whole 26-27-28-29-30-31 area to themselves but they only ever used two of them that I saw.

HP isn't showing on SFO's online arrivals/departures system but I see the US flights using 28 and 30, with the lone Midwest flight at 26. I've boarded at 29 before, so they're using at least four.


USAir A321 service now departing for SFO with fuel stops in CAK, COS and RNO. Enjoy your flight.
User currently offlineAeroflot777 From Russia, joined Mar 2004, 2957 posts, RR: 30
Reply 9, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 5955 times:

Anyone have pics of the rotunda that you are talking about, I'm kind of clueless on what you mean.

Aeroflot777

User currently offlineTimz From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 6465 posts, RR: 8
Reply 10, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 5912 times:

See that round thing down in the SW corner of

http://terraserver.microsoft.net/ima...x?T=4&S=10&Z=10&X=2770&Y=20815&W=1

Built around 1970 as I recall-- it was the international terminal until the 1954 terminal got remodeled to take that job over, circa 1985.

[Edited 2005-12-03 00:24:37]

User currently offlineBlatantEcho From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 1868 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 5893 times:

Looks like it's going to leave a lot of empty space. Will the 3 Int'l gates use it all, or perhaps remote stands or something?


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User currently offlineJfrworld From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 362 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 5812 times:

Quoting FCYTravis (Thread starter):
the last US Airways flights left the former PSA rotunda at SFO's Terminal 1 on Wednesday. As of yesterday, US (and Midwest Airlines) have moved their operations to America West's five-gate rotunda in Terminal 1.

HP didn't always have a five gate rotunda. I believe that rotunda has a total of six gates, but ATA was using at least two of those gates until pretty recently. I think HP was only using two of the gates a couple of years ago and then added a third gate when they stated their SFO-BOS/JFK transcon a year or two ago. The ATA scale down at SFO pretty much made available that whole rotunda to HP/US.

User currently offlineFCYTravis From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 1191 posts, RR: 6
Reply 13, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 5742 times:

Yeah, there are 6 gates, I just mis-counted  Embarrassment

Interesting, I didn't know ATA used them! Thanks  Smile


USAir A321 service now departing for SFO with fuel stops in CAK, COS and RNO. Enjoy your flight.
User currently offlineCancidas From Poland, joined Jul 2003, 4112 posts, RR: 13
Reply 14, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 5728 times:

about time, i hate flying through there. that terminal looked to be in worse condition that either PHL or LGA facilities....


"...cannot the kingdom of salvation take me home."
User currently offlineTropicBird From United States of America, joined May 2005, 502 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 5576 times:

HP/US are using Gates 26-30 until the end of January when ATA will supposedly turn over Gate 31 to HP/US.

User currently offlineAS739X From United States of America, joined Apr 2003, 5816 posts, RR: 23
Reply 16, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 5510 times:

Blantantecho: Once torn down and resurfaced it will open Int'l gates 1/3/5 for use. When I was at SFO they said it will take some time to do all of that. Also, they were in talk of a blast fence between A-1 and Alaska's gate 20 so planes would not have to pust back the length of the terminal.

Tropicbird, that what I have heard. Looks like ATA will use only gate 25. Funny that not to long ago they were flying to 6 destinations!

ASLAX


"Some pilots avoid storm cells and some play connect the dots!"
User currently offlineFCYTravis From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 1191 posts, RR: 6
Reply 17, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 5482 times:

Now all HP/US needs to do at SFO is put a U Club back in and they'll have a credible mainline station there...


USAir A321 service now departing for SFO with fuel stops in CAK, COS and RNO. Enjoy your flight.
User currently offlineJFKLGANYC From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 2642 posts, RR: 5
Reply 18, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 4805 times:

Interesting how they built the new terminal right up against the old terminal and didn't knock it down then. I wonder why they couldn't entice US to move to different gates.

Oh well . . . progress.

PJ

User currently offlineFreedomtofly From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 750 posts, RR: 6
Reply 19, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 4706 times:

I was just at SFO yesterday in the US terminal, they own gates 1-17. Are they getting more gates now or are they relocating to a different terminal?

Aaron


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User currently offlineFCYTravis From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 1191 posts, RR: 6
Reply 20, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 4490 times:

As of yesterday, US is now in the America West rotunda, gates 26-31. You apparently crossed paths with their swap  Smile


USAir A321 service now departing for SFO with fuel stops in CAK, COS and RNO. Enjoy your flight.
User currently offlineJfrworld From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 362 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 4285 times:

Quoting FCYTravis (Reply 13):
Yeah, there are 6 gates, I just mis-counted

Interesting, I didn't know ATA used them! Thanks

No worries. I only know because I fly HP pretty frequently and I used to see the ATA flights to HNL and MDW depart right across the way.

User currently offlineEtops1 From Puerto Rico, joined Nov 2005, 844 posts, RR: 1
Reply 22, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 3353 times:

i remember wn wn use to park there before they went to oak


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User currently offline28L28L From Australia, joined Nov 2005, 459 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 3129 times:

I once was told that when the Terminal One rotunda (former South Terminal) first opened in 1974 the master airport plan was to configure all of the concourses in a similar fashion. This plan lasted until someone determined that aircraft would not have adequate room to enter and exit gate areas, weaving past various rotundas! Thanks for the update on the terminal.

User currently offlineCschleic From United States of America, joined Feb 2002, 1029 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 2788 times:

I recall when that rotunda was the old old international terminal. There's a photo in a book of a British Airways Concorde at a gate there. That's back when PSA was in the "old" version of the central terminal. There were all those chairs looking out of the central terminal onto the Hughes Airwest, PSA, American and United gates, plus great views from the open air observation deck up several floors in that building. You'd walk out on the tarmac to some PSA planes, right underneath an American 747 at a jetway gate. Times change. But it's definitely time for the rotunda to go.

25 Rthrbeflying86: How are security lines in Terminal B? I fly US out of SFO about 6 times a year and have always loved the complete absence of people at the Terminal A
26 Searpqx: I caught my first PA flight from that old rotunda - SFO-SEA on a B747-100. I purposely routed myself on WN from LAX to SFO so I could fly the PA fligh
27 Post contains images FCYTravis: There's an elite line at B, and I've never waited long using that... It doesn't seem to be too bad, because no airline has a really major operation fr
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