DSMav8r From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 579 posts, RR: 9 Posted (6 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 1823 times:
It looks like Allegiant will announce Vegas to Lincoln service next week. I guess this answers the question about Lincoln being too close to Omaha and WN to consider service. Also, although not mentioned in the article, Orlando to Lincoln service is being discussed as well.
HPLASOps From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 1, posted (6 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 1812 times:
Somewhat related to this thread....does anyone know how load factors are on Allegiant Air? They've got such a unique idea - flying to ultra-small markets 2 or 3 days a week using MD 80s without providing much connection service - I really don't know how they fill flights using that model. Anyone know?
TWA902fly From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 2990 posts, RR: 4 Reply 2, posted (6 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 1757 times:
Quoting HPLASOps (Reply 1): Somewhat related to this thread....does anyone know how load factors are on Allegiant Air? They've got such a unique idea - flying to ultra-small markets 2 or 3 days a week using MD 80s without providing much connection service - I really don't know how they fill flights using that model. Anyone know?
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KcrwFlyer From United States of America, joined May 2004, 3436 posts, RR: 7 Reply 3, posted (6 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 1754 times:
Quoting HPLASOps (Reply 1): Somewhat related to this thread....does anyone know how load factors are on Allegiant Air? They've got such a unique idea - flying to ultra-small markets 2 or 3 days a week using MD 80s without providing much connection service - I really don't know how they fill flights using that model. Anyone know?
They must be good systemwide. I know for a fact that if they arent, they pull out...switfly.
They fill flights because in most cities they've created a market.
BigGSFO From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 2581 posts, RR: 7 Reply 4, posted (6 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 1745 times:
Quoting TWA902fly (Reply 2): Advertising at Gamblers Anonymous meetings?
FATFlyer From United States of America, joined May 2001, 5508 posts, RR: 21 Reply 5, posted (6 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 1665 times:
Quoting DSMav8r (Thread starter): It looks like Allegiant will announce Vegas to Lincoln service next week.
Glad to see this one happening I was surprised not to hear a route announcement last week so I was wondering what might happen.
Quoting HPLASOps (Reply 1): Somewhat related to this thread....does anyone know how load factors are on Allegiant Air?
I don't have time to calculate an actual LF for you right now for October. (My schedule and workload is nuts until Christmas, that is why I haven't been posting much lately)
But in Oct 2005 Allegiant boarded 42,228 passengers at LAS. They were the 10th busiest airline at McCarran, just behind AS and just ahead of JetBlue. Someone can take a look at their schedule to see how many G4 flights departed LAS that month and run a rough LF.
Typically off the top of my head the LFs run in the 70-80% range.
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Stlgph From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 8582 posts, RR: 31 Reply 6, posted (6 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 1651 times:
Quoting DSMav8r (Thread starter): It looks like Allegiant will announce Vegas to Lincoln service next week. I guess this answers the question about Lincoln being too close to Omaha and WN to consider service. Also, although not mentioned in the article, Orlando to Lincoln service is being discussed as well.
Southwest must not be too much of a factor for them. Especially in St. Louis, where Southwest serves Lambert and Allegiant serves Belleville. Southwest seems to cater to a lot of the business crowd. Allegiant's filling seats with their package deals.
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Iowaman From United States of America, joined May 2004, 3650 posts, RR: 7 Reply 7, posted (6 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 1623 times:
Haha, wow am I good at guessing future Allegiant cities.
Quoting FATFlyer (Reply 5): Typically off the top of my head the LFs run in the 70-80% range.
I was thinking they were around 80%, but not sure.
CIDflyer From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 1792 posts, RR: 3 Reply 8, posted (6 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 1578 times:
Quoting HPLASOps (Reply 1): They've got such a unique idea - flying to ultra-small markets 2 or 3 days a week
While many markets they serve are not your largest cities, I don't think one could necessarily call the "ultra-small" markets. They fly to Oklahoma City, which had a population of over 500,000, Des Moines, which has a metro population over 400,000. Even my hometown area of the Cedar Rapids/Iowa City area has a population of 350,000. These are some markets (with the exception of OKC which has SWA) which normally get overlooked by the major LCC's. I say hats off to Allegiant!
MD90fan From Bahamas, joined Jul 2005, 2931 posts, RR: 10 Reply 9, posted (6 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 1564 times:
Good for G6 im happy to see them expand again any idea what aircraft will operate the route?? didnt NW start a flight to LNK earlier this year ( from MSP, DTW or MEM I forgot)
Iowaman From United States of America, joined May 2004, 3650 posts, RR: 7 Reply 10, posted (6 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 1544 times:
Ouboy79 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 3228 posts, RR: 26 Reply 11, posted (6 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 1499 times:
G4 is doing a good mix of small and medium size cities. OKC is obviously one of the exceptions with the city pop around 515,000 and growing rapidly (metro around a mil or so). Allegiant was OKC's 4th LCC....this on top of Southwest, Frontier, and US Airways (US West).
So far not to far off from my guesses on another board:
Iowaman From United States of America, joined May 2004, 3650 posts, RR: 7 Reply 12, posted (6 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 1491 times:
Quoting Ouboy79 (Reply 11): G4 is doing a good mix of small and medium size cities.
Quoting Ouboy79 (Reply 11): OKC is obviously one of the exceptions with the city pop around 515,000 and growing rapidly (metro around a mil or so).
PIA is also a fairly large metro area.
I'm somewhat concerned about OKC, WN just recently launched daily LAS-OKC non-stop, and I'm sure WN is the one more known. Good luck to Allegiant. Southwest has 21 day advance purchase fares for $69 one way, but that isn't any cheaper than Allegiant on some days. Good luck to both carriers.
HPLASOps From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 13, posted (6 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 1469 times:
Quoting CIDflyer (Reply 8): These are some markets (with the exception of OKC which has SWA) which normally get overlooked by the major LCC's. I say hats off to Allegiant!
Can't disagree with you on that point. I had a coworker from a former job fly G4 to Cedar Rapids for I believe $180 r/t. He told me the service was good and can't beat the price. I was looking forward to flying them to RPD to visit a friend in Deadwood sometime, I was just concerned that they were trying too aggressive and different of a strategy to the point were they couldn't make it work. From what I know of them working here at LAS, they seem like decent employees who work a clean and effecient operation, so I have no gripes with them.
ATCRick From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 770 posts, RR: 16 Reply 14, posted (6 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 1461 times:
Is it my turn yet? G4 does well out of most of our cities. We try to offer a quality product as does most carriers. We have glitches,mechanicals,but no more than anybody else. I expect us to provide a quality product to LNK.
Ouboy79 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 3228 posts, RR: 26 Reply 15, posted (6 years 5 months 3 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 1388 times:
Quoting Iowaman (Reply 12): I'm somewhat concerned about OKC, WN just recently launched daily LAS-OKC non-stop, and I'm sure WN is the one more known. Good luck to Allegiant. Southwest has 21 day advance purchase fares for $69 one way, but that isn't any cheaper than Allegiant on some days. Good luck to both carriers.
Don't forget the OKC-LAS market is already supporting G4's 4 weekly flights, US Airways one daily flight, and Champion with 4-5 weekly flights. The Southwest flight will essentially take people off of the PHX flights that are connecting to LAS anyway.
However, I will say DL's recent announcement to fly OKC-MCO on a daily flight obviously stopped one route from happening...
FATFlyer From United States of America, joined May 2001, 5508 posts, RR: 21 Reply 16, posted (6 years 5 months 3 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 1346 times:
Quoting Ouboy79 (Reply 11): So far not to far off from my guesses on another board:
Ouboy79 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 3228 posts, RR: 26 Reply 18, posted (6 years 5 months 3 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 1339 times:
Quoting FATFlyer (Reply 16): I notice you have of a guess of Redding. Don't forget that is a been there done that for Allegiant
True...but who knows. Stranger things have happened.
Quoting Iowaman (Reply 17): Here is a more updated route map:
I think you totally missed what I was getting at. The fact that OKC-SFB was placed on a route map, but the map nor the route ever made public. Hence the plan was dropped. If you want, just go through their directory on the web server and you can find every route map they have made and toyed around with.
Iowaman From United States of America, joined May 2004, 3650 posts, RR: 7 Reply 19, posted (6 years 5 months 3 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 1335 times:
Quoting Ouboy79 (Reply 18): I think you totally missed what I was getting at. The fact that OKC-SFB was placed on a route map, but the map nor the route ever made public.
Stlgph From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 8582 posts, RR: 31 Reply 21, posted (6 years 5 months 3 weeks ago) and read 1248 times:
quick question --
Allegiant serves markets 2 or 3 days a week, sometimes more. but on an average day, how many flights total are operated in and out of Las Vegas and even Orlando, if any one happens to know off hand.
just curious.
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FATFlyer From United States of America, joined May 2001, 5508 posts, RR: 21 Reply 22, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 1234 times:
Quoting Stlgph (Reply 21): but on an average day, how many flights total are operated in and out of Las Vegas and even Orlando, if any one happens to know off hand.
Out of LAS? Roughly 18 or 19 roundtrips a day
Out of SFB? Roughly 8 or 9 roundtrips a day
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Dw9115 From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 448 posts, RR: 2 Reply 23, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 1207 times:
Allegiant must be doing something right because they caught Northwest's attention in Sioux Falls (FSD) and they added a A319 flight to Las Vegas at almost the same time as Allegiant's.
Iowaman From United States of America, joined May 2004, 3650 posts, RR: 7 Reply 24, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 1205 times:
Quoting Dw9115 (Reply 23): Allegiant must be doing something right because they caught Northwest's attention in Sioux Falls (FSD) and they added a A319 flight to Las Vegas at almost the same time as Allegiant's.
26 FATFlyer: Here is the announcement from Allegiant http://www.allegiantair.com/pr/120605.htm Flights operate Wednesday and Saturday starting Feb. 1. And the upda
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any idea what aircraft will operate the route?? didnt NW start a flight to LNK earlier this year ( from MSP, DTW or MEM I forgot)
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