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XM Satellite Radio On UA Rumors  
User currently offlineFA4UA From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 812 posts, RR: 20
Posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 6580 times:

A few little birdies have been chirping about XM satellite radio being added to United's Fleet. Initial rumors stating 100 channels of music domestically and 50 channels internationally.

I wouldn't think it would work anywhere but over North America, but time will tell.

I would imagine XM will help cover part of the cost and write it off as marketing. Nice to have access to a captive audience of 200,000 people a day to show off your product!

I've heard that the 737 fleet will be first! Expect a formal announcement soon! As for now it's just a very LOUD rumor.

FA4UA


The debate continues... Starwood or Hyatt... which is better
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User currently offlineRDYNYC From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 65 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 6569 times:

Just curious, What is "XM" radio?

User currently offlineGreasespot From Canada, joined Apr 2004, 3079 posts, RR: 20
Reply 2, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 6553 times:

you mean they need more than Chanel 9?

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User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26426 posts, RR: 76
Reply 3, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 6552 times:

Quoting RDYNYC (Reply 1):
Just curious, What is "XM" radio?

It is a satellite radio service.

I really hope this doesn't mean the end of Channel 9



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User currently offlineWjcandee From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 5152 posts, RR: 22
Reply 4, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 6544 times:

Nice to hear that UA is thinking of catching up with Airtran!!

User currently offlineRDUDDJI From Lesotho, joined Jun 2004, 1468 posts, RR: 3
Reply 5, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 6536 times:

Quoting N1120A (Reply 3):
I really hope this doesn't mean the end of Channel 9

Ditto. I'd rather have Channel 9 and NOTHING else than 100 channels and no Ch. 9!



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User currently offlineGigneil From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 16347 posts, RR: 85
Reply 6, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 6529 times:

Quoting FA4UA (Thread starter):
Initial rumors stating 100 channels of music domestically and 50 channels internationally.

XM's satellites are geostationary. There will be no coverage internationally beyond Tijuana, Juarez, Toronto, Montreal, and Vancouver at best.

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User currently offlineFA4UA From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 812 posts, RR: 20
Reply 7, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 6518 times:

Quoting Gigneil (Reply 6):
XM's satellites are geostationary. There will be no coverage internationally beyond Tijuana, Juarez, Toronto, Montreal, and Vancouver at best.

As an XM subscriber myself, that's what I thought.

I also hope we keep channel 9! Passengers really do love it and loosing it would be a pity!

FA4UA



The debate continues... Starwood or Hyatt... which is better
User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26426 posts, RR: 76
Reply 8, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 6513 times:

Quoting FA4UA (Reply 7):
I also hope we keep channel 9! Passengers really do love it and loosing it would be a pity!

Yeah, UA would lose at least one elite FFer because of it (me)



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User currently offlineWjcandee From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 5152 posts, RR: 22
Reply 9, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 6484 times:

Fact is, there's no reason while channel 9 couldn't be included in the system. UA would just have to insist that it be incorporated. Heck, in your CAR, you have a tuner that has AM, FM, CD and XM.

User currently offlineIADBGO From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 206 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 6482 times:

While a signal from the satellites are limited to the US and a few places in Canada and Mexico...I believe it would be possible to broadcast it directly to aircraft from ground stations. I don't how this works...but I assume it is similar to the ground repeaters that are setup in cities across the US.

IADBGO


User currently offlineAirportPlan From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 469 posts, RR: 3
Reply 11, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 6475 times:

No one said anything about Channel 9 going away. One of the main advantages of adding XM is that UA can eliminate the cost of updating audio media monthly on hundreds of aircraft.

User currently offlineFlypdx From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 636 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 6451 times:

Wasn't UA talking about getting Wifi on planes a few months or a year ago? Has that happened yet....No.

User currently offlineHPLASOps From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 6448 times:

Quoting RDUDDJI (Reply 5):
Ditto. I'd rather have Channel 9 and NOTHING else than 100 channels and no Ch. 9!

New guy here - don't get the channel 9 reference - what is UA's channel 9?


User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26426 posts, RR: 76
Reply 14, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 6430 times:

Quoting HPLASOps (Reply 13):
New guy here - don't get the channel 9 reference - what is UA's channel 9?

The audio program on Channel 9 is, at captain's discretion, "From the Flight Deck" which is basically a tap into the aircraft's ATC radio feed so you can listen to what the cockpit hears on your flight.



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User currently offlineHPLASOps From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 6416 times:

Quoting N1120A (Reply 14):
The audio program on Channel 9 is, at captain's discretion, "From the Flight Deck" which is basically a tap into the aircraft's ATC radio feed so you can listen to what the cockpit hears on your flight.

Interesting - not sure how many pax outside of a.netters would actually care to hear ATC chatter - example: recently my friend and I were going LAS-MSP and the capt came on about 5 min after takeoff, saying "Folks, are brakes are running a little hot and so we're gonna leave the landing down for a few more minutes until it cools." And my friend looked at me and said "That's not really something I wanna hear! Do you what you gotta to do fly the plane but I really didn't need to know that!"


User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26426 posts, RR: 76
Reply 16, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 6408 times:

Quoting HPLASOps (Reply 15):
Interesting - not sure how many pax outside of a.netters would actually care to hear ATC chatter

Actually, you should be surpirsed at the number who do.



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User currently offlineFriendlySkies From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 4105 posts, RR: 5
Reply 17, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 6385 times:

Quoting Flypdx (Reply 12):
Wasn't UA talking about getting Wifi on planes a few months or a year ago? Has that happened yet....No.

Actually... http://www.united.com/press/detail/0,6862,52964,00.html

It has.  Wink


User currently offlineMarshalN From Hong Kong, joined Sep 2005, 1521 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 6345 times:

Quoting HPLASOps (Reply 15):
Interesting - not sure how many pax outside of a.netters would actually care to hear ATC chatter - example: recently my friend and I were going LAS-MSP and the capt came on about 5 min after takeoff, saying "Folks, are brakes are running a little hot and so we're gonna leave the landing down for a few more minutes until it cools." And my friend looked at me and said "That's not really something I wanna hear! Do you what you gotta to do fly the plane but I really didn't need to know that!"

Actually, there are people who do like it. I sat next to an Aussie on a recent flight and he loves Ch9, and listens to it whenever he flies UA. I don't think he's much of an aviation hobbyist beyond that


User currently offlineRoseFlyer From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 9594 posts, RR: 52
Reply 19, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days ago) and read 6333 times:

Sounds like a great addition. The narrowbody fleet could all have XM satellite radio, and the widebody fleet could have PTVs. It would give UA the best IFE among the legacy US carriers.


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User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26426 posts, RR: 76
Reply 20, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days ago) and read 6317 times:

As far as the Wifi thing goes, are they going to keep trying to make it prohibitively expensive or are they going to try and keep it competitive like LH's FlyNet/Connexion service is?


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User currently offlineGo3Team From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 3267 posts, RR: 16
Reply 21, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days ago) and read 6295 times:

Sounds like UA is ripping off FL, Tell em Fred. If this is true, at least they went for the better company.


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User currently offlineUAalltheway From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days ago) and read 6271 times:

Quoting FA4UA (Thread starter):
I wouldn't think it would work anywhere but over North America, but time will tell.

Since when does satellite only cover land?

Quoting N1120A (Reply 3):
I really hope this doesn't mean the end of Channel 9

Absolutely not.. United has TONS of pride in being the only carrier in the world to offer the service of Channel 9- I can assure you they will not be getting rid of it anytime soon. They've used it in TONS of marketing ploys for years. It's not going anywhere.  Wink  Smile

Quoting FriendlySkies (Reply 17):
Actually... http://www.united.com/press/detail/0....html

I wish UA would have gone with Boeing's Connexion by Boeing service.  Sad The verizon service is going to be as expensive as hell


User currently offlineSymphonik From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 154 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days ago) and read 6263 times:

Hoo hoo... I invented radios on airplanes...hoo hoo ROB-IN

This would be a welcome addition to UA (still my American carrier of choice, even if it's just because I have the Mileage Plus miles). I listen to XM in the car, and adore it... having it on the plane would be fantastic. They just have to keep Channel 9.

(O&A Party Rock!)


User currently offlineFriendlySkies From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 4105 posts, RR: 5
Reply 24, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days ago) and read 6250 times:

Quoting UAalltheway (Reply 22):
Since when does satellite only cover land?

Since the satellites are only aimed at the continental US.  Wink


25 Flypdx : Actually, that article doesn't say anything about it actually being installed on any aircraft/being available at this time on any aircraft.
26 Dw9115 : I think it is great that United is going to start offering XM. I love the service when ever I fly AirTran but it will never beat channel 9.
27 Go3Team : It has been said by XM (From the Head of Programming - Eric Logan) that XM Canada uses the same satellites as the existing XM service in the US. XM w
28 Post contains images Mir : As long as they keep Channel 9. They can move it to another channel, but just keep Channel 9. And another (me - though I'm not elite by a long shot).
29 Phollingsworth : That make sense, since Geostationary positions really effect only the longitude range over which the signal is available. If a signal is available at
30 MikeTheActuary : While that's correct in theory, most satellites have spot beams, focusing signal in certain areas. XM-1, XM-2, and XM-3 satellites have a CONUS+Canad
31 Srbmod : Equipment-wise, yes. Programming-wise, no. And I don't mean O&A v. Stern either. I am surprised that Sirius has yet to enter this niche of the market
32 RAMPRAT980 : Why not Sirius instead of XM this way we can listen to Howard Stern
33 Go3Team : That pretty much comes down to which company would be the better investment. Both companies are losing money, but Sirius way much moreso than XM. No
34 Srbmod : Because Sirius hasn't made known when or whether they're going to enter this niche. XM really has a headstart, not only with FL and B6 putting them o
35 Hiflyer : I would suspect the 100 channel domestic and the 50 channel intl in the original post may be a clue...perhaps a different system other than domestic X
36 Gigneil : Because Sirius doesn't yet have the technology, nor have they officially attacked the space. XM is making the right moves with the right people to ge
37 TOLtommy : Its really too bad that Sirius hasn't jumped into the game. Their programming is much better. I have the portable MyFi XM in my car, wife has Sirius
38 Goaliemn : They're aimed at North America.. I can guarantee you any airline carying any satellite service will block the adult channels. I doubt Opie and Anthon
39 UAORD2000 : XM radio is great but what UA really needs is an excellent AVOD system on international flights. UA lacks behind the competition on international flig
40 Gigneil : I have both XM and Sirius, and I used to agree with you. Now, I don't. Sirius has been cutting and rearranging a lot of the content I listen to, and
41 Deltadude : AirTran does....I tried listening to O&A on the way to/from TPA and had to use the myFi. Punching out.....
42 Thetuna : I'd switch to UA if they carried XM. Hoo hoo hoo, ROBIN. O&A party rock!
43 STT757 : I have XM and love it, but Im also a Howard Stern listener for 16 years so Im probably going to get Sirius and also keep XM. I have the XM commander
44 Goaliemn : Have you listened to Opie and Anthony? I was a die hard Stern guy until I heard them on ch 202. It replays alot during the day. Live in the AM. Move
45 Gigneil : Unfortunately, I'm a bad source for antenna info... I live inside a major city and therefore I have terrestrial repeater signal 100% of my day. My mov
46 FA4UA : Just read an article on thestreet.com that says XM has slightly more than 5 milion subscribers, Sirius has a little more than 2 milliion... just food
47 Kurt : We have DirecTV and the music channels were switched to XM on Nov. 15, I believe. It was MusicDirect before. Most of the most popular XM channels are
48 STT757 : I wish XM and Sirius would merge!.. My fiancee has a new Volvo S40 with a Shark Fin on the roof as her radio antenna, is there some way to utilize the
49 Gigneil : You can use the Myfi in your house... just get the appropriate kits for it. As for the shark fin, I don't know. I have a shark fin on my audi that rec
50 Cactus739 : I think XM would be an awesome addition for United (or any other airline).... every time I'm on a plane and its audio equipped the music never seems a
51 Post contains links and images UAalltheway : Anyone else see this article/blog post that's linking to A.net? http://www.orbitcast.com/archives/xm...ited-airlines-internationally.html
52 FA4UA : I noticed that XM is now sponsoring/creating some of our onboard content on our domestic Short Subject Video... makes a boy wonder about this new conn
53 Tu154 : Does that mean those "junk-jets" will be around longer that we thought? I thought they were going to be retired.............damn! Anyway, if the 737
54 Post contains images N1120A : Hmmm, I didn't realize that the best selling plane in history could be junk?
55 FA4UA : a friend of mine was telling me that we still have 20 planes still under negotiations. I thought they were all done with that, but apparently there's
56 Tu154 : You have obviously not worked a UA 737..................old, dark, run down, no entertainment to really speak of........former shuttle a/c that are v
57 ATA753 : that may explain why some of the Ted a/c has diffrent nose number. Recently i saw at ORD a new nose number for Ted a/c, which is 48xx. After taking to
58 Hiflyer : Couple mechs I know at UAL say that the 4800 series has had the IFE moved to the forward galley to free up overhead bin space. Also a bit on interior
59 Travelin man : XM on UA would be fantastic. I have XM in my car and through my DirecTV, and I find it very difficult to live without. XM is smart to market itself th
60 N1120A : Not all the 737s are ex-Shuttle They have full audio (including Channel 9) are not all that old, have the same interior as most other UA planes and a
61 Tu154 : As posted earlier......this view is from the stand point of a UA flight attendant. Ask any one of us which plane in our fleet is disliked the most, a
62 I530j : what is channel 9? Justin
63 ExFATboy : Cool, a cure for insomnia while flying. (Sorry, I just find Howard Stern about as interesting as watching dust bunnies form under the bed...) Any rum
64 BNE : If you had read the entire thread then you would have noticed this; Channel 9 is great. Would it be feasible for Ted to introduce XM satellite radio
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