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Cathay As Dirty As AF  
User currently offlineLufthansa From Christmas Island, joined May 1999, 3204 posts, RR: 10
Posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 8615 times:

I was at MEL the other day, and saw
the Airbus A330-300, B-HLP belonging to CX.

And i tell you want, it was absolutely flithy.
Not just a bit, but every bit as bad as Air France
gets including water marks running away from the windows,
not a good look for such a highly respected airline.

What's up at cathay? They never used to be like this?
Also, I thought it was funny the rego was B-HLP.... HLP, or
HELP is exactly what his airbus needed.

[Edited 2005-12-04 06:26:51]

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User currently offlineRB211-524H From Australia, joined Nov 1999, 54 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 8405 times:

I agree, B-HLS is another 3-class A330-300 in the CX fleet that's absolutely filthy. I think it's something to do with the fact that they can do a round-trip from HKG to SYD/MEL within 24 hours including turnarounds which are an hour or two long at our end. Maybe somebody can shed some light on this but there is a certain group of CX A330-300s (the heavier 10,500km range version) that just get the crap worked out of them between aus/hk - return trip 7 days a week, 18hours+ utilisation everyday. They use 3 alone for the 3x daily for SYD-HKG, it's really cool when one of them is out for maintenance though cos that means we get an A340-300 instead or when we're really lucky, a pax 744 during the peak season.

So unless the aircraft are in for heavy maintenance, there's no time to clean them. The air surrounding HK is pretty dirty too with the high humidity and the crap that gets blown south from China so I guess there's not much point to wash them either, just a waste of $$ that needs to go to paying their A346 fuel bills to JFK :P.

The only time I've ever seen a clean CX A330 in SYD was when they introduced B-LAC into the fleet - check the pics  Smile And then it got dirty and stayed that way....  Smile

Anybody got more info on how the CX fleet gets rotated through Oz and how often they need heavy maintenance at Taeco?


User currently offlineAerorobNZ From Rwanda, joined Feb 2001, 7155 posts, RR: 13
Reply 2, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 8343 times:

The 343s aren't that bad, but still never look clean. Part of it is that hideous livery though.

User currently offlineChilledflyer From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2004, 115 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 8199 times:

Hideous livery? That's blasphemy!!! :P

--chilledflyer--



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User currently offlineFlySSC From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 7402 posts, RR: 57
Reply 4, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 8135 times:

Quoting Lufthansa (Thread starter):
Not just a bit, but every bit as bad as Air France

or KL :


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User currently offlineDogfighter2111 From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2004, 1968 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 8108 times:

Quoting FlySSC (Reply 4):

Well, seeing as KLM is Air France now then the aircraft are bound to be ditry  Wink

Thanks
Mike


User currently onlineZKSUJ From New Zealand, joined May 2004, 7085 posts, RR: 12
Reply 6, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 8068 times:

Some of the pictures of some chinese carriers are worse than AF  Wink

User currently offlineEGNR From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2004, 508 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 8003 times:

Quoting ZKSUJ (Reply 6):
Some of the pictures of some chinese carriers are worse than AF

I like the photographer's comment on this one...

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User currently offlineAseem From India, joined Feb 2005, 2046 posts, RR: 10
Reply 8, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 7920 times:

how about

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User currently offlineAbba From Denmark, joined Jun 2005, 1329 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 7903 times:

Quoting RB211-524H (Reply 1):
So unless the aircraft are in for heavy maintenance, there's no time to clean them. The air surrounding HK is pretty dirty too with the high humidity and the crap that gets blown south from China so I guess there's not much point to wash them either, just a waste of $$ that needs to go to paying their A346 fuel bills to JFK :P.

Not to mention all the dirt that is locally produced. The lacals are only all too happy to blame it all on their compatriots on the other side of the border forgetting that the are doing a lot themselves and could do much more than they actually do.

Abba


User currently offlineDagell From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 35 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 7083 times:

I think the Delta 757 takes the cake on dirty planes! I'd be afraid to get on a plane that looked like that on the outside... you know what they say about restuarants that have dirty bathrooms....

User currently offlineLufthansa From Christmas Island, joined May 1999, 3204 posts, RR: 10
Reply 11, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 6945 times:

Quoting Dagell (Reply 10):
you know what they say about restuarants that have dirty bathrooms....

I'm taking it you haven't been to Kowloon then?


User currently offlineTheFLCowboy From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 405 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 6897 times:

Quoting Dagell (Reply 10):
I think the Delta 757 takes the cake on dirty planes! I'd be afraid to get on a plane that looked like that on the outside... you know what they say about restuarants that have dirty bathrooms....

Not to be a jerk - but paint dont make a plane fly.

I can see what your saying though. Not the greatest image to see if its your first flight or something.

mD



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User currently offlineSA7700 From South Africa, joined Dec 2003, 3431 posts, RR: 26
Reply 13, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 6897 times:
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This may sound totally ignorant, but I have to ask: "Doesn't all this dirt somehow, even in the slightest way, have an impact on the plane's ultimate performance?"


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User currently offlineShamrock350 From Ireland, joined Mar 2005, 6321 posts, RR: 14
Reply 14, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 6720 times:

This is the worst Aer Lingus A330 I have ever seen. I don't think it would bother many passengers.

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User currently offlineAirPacific747 From Denmark, joined May 2008, 2373 posts, RR: 21
Reply 15, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 6066 times:

but we all know that the "winner" is....:


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User currently offlineYULWinterSkies From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 2176 posts, RR: 5
Reply 16, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days ago) and read 4312 times:

Quoting Lufthansa (Thread starter):
And i tell you want, it was absolutely flithy.
Not just a bit, but every bit as bad as Air France

Do you mean as dirty as that? These ones may not be immaculate, but they do not look bad i would say.


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User currently offlineFXramper From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 7191 posts, RR: 86
Reply 17, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 3831 times:
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Are you kidding me? A thread about dirty planes. They fly, they land, they fly some more, they get dirty.

I think you should contact AF or CX and see if they'd create a position of Aircraft Washer, just for you.

Who knows, it might develop into some highly lucrative new position for airlines and you'd be the rich!  Smile


User currently offlineAndyHunt From Singapore, joined Jan 2001, 1306 posts, RR: 52
Reply 18, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 3239 times:
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User currently offlineJumpseatflyer From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 163 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 2469 times:

Regarding the DL 757:

That's not just a dirt problem. What took the paint off like that?


User currently offlineLufthansa From Christmas Island, joined May 1999, 3204 posts, RR: 10
Reply 20, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 2329 times:

Quoting Jumpseatflyer (Reply 19):
That's not just a dirt problem. What took the paint off like that?

It was downwind on the taxiway from an IL-76?


User currently offlineBlue787 From Australia, joined Jun 2005, 55 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 2244 times:

Quoting Dagell (Reply 10):
you know what they say about restaurants that have dirty bathrooms....

I go to restaurants to eat nice food,not to go and check out the loo.I have flown on many very dirty airliners,and am still alive to tell the story.If the in flight is ok. Who cares about the dirty A/C.
Can some one tell me how long dose it take to wash an aircraft?What about re lubricating flaps, U/carriage,and any other parts, as I would assume that the cleaning liquid used to wash A/C, would not be as nice and gentle as say Maguire's car shampoo.


User currently offlineHa763 From United States of America, joined Jan 2003, 3634 posts, RR: 5
Reply 22, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 2143 times:
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Quoting Dagell (Reply 10):
I think the Delta 757 takes the cake on dirty planes!

I'm afraid that DL got some airplane cleaning lessons from fellow Skyteam member, AF.  biggrin 


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User currently offlineCX flyboy From Hong Kong, joined Dec 1999, 6585 posts, RR: 55
Reply 23, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 1936 times:

I challenge anyone to find a major airline which does not have any dirty planes flying around.

User currently offlineLufthansa From Christmas Island, joined May 1999, 3204 posts, RR: 10
Reply 24, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 1919 times:

JAL
SAA
LAN
and i can't really think of ever seeing AA like that.

Or EK


25 Post contains images FlySSC :
26 Luisca : AA's livery is decieving. I fly AA a lot and the planes look clean from far away, when you walk through the jetbrige you see the plane is dirty, and
27 Babybus : I saw a programme a few years ago that said keeping an aircraft clean can save an airline tons of fuel every year. The dirt distorts the airflow and s
28 Trex8 : before Boeing took the 772LR on that HKG-LHR record breaking flight, they had it specially washed and took off 350lb (or maybe it was even kg!) of di
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