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Venezuela: From YV-xxxC To YVxxxT  
User currently offlineViasa From Switzerland, joined Jun 2005, 1870 posts, RR: 6
Posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 4409 times:

All commercial used planes from Venezuela had the registration YV-xxxC (in 2, 3 or 4 digits).

Now I have found a lot of re-registrated aircraft, they wear now YVxxxT registrations

Here is the list of the aircraft I found:


  • YV115T: DC-9-30 of Aserca (red cs)
  • YV130T: MD-80 of Aeropostal (old cs)
  • YV131T: MD-80 of Aeropostal (old cs)
  • YV133T: MD-80 of Aeropostal (new cs)
  • YV134T: MD-80 of Aeropostal (new cs)
  • YV137T: DC-9-50 of Aeropostal (old cs)
  • YV138T: DC-9-50 of Aeropostal (new cs)
  • YV142T: DC-9-?? of Aeropostal (old cs)
  • YV167T: DC-9-30 of Laser


Why they change the registrations?

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User currently offlineLamedianaranja From Venezuela, joined Nov 2004, 1246 posts, RR: 21
Reply 1, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 4387 times:

I can't come up with an abbreviation, can you? C is for commercial, P for private (a lot of those in Venezuela). Did they run out of numbers maybe?


I wish that all skies were orange and blue!!
User currently offlineLuisde8cd From Pitcairn Islands, joined Aug 2004, 2571 posts, RR: 31
Reply 2, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 4374 times:

I have no clue. Maybe T stands for Tourism? Just a wild idea.. Maybe CivilAv can shed a light on this.


Saludos desde Caracas,
Luis


User currently offlineViasa From Switzerland, joined Jun 2005, 1870 posts, RR: 6
Reply 3, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 4360 times:

Quoting Luisde8cd (Reply 2):
Maybe T stands for Tourism? Just a wild idea..

Or it could stand for Transport...

Quoting Lamedianaranja (Reply 1):
Did they run out of numbers maybe?

No, all new T-Birds were former registrated with a C.


User currently offlineChiguire From Venezuela, joined Sep 2004, 2003 posts, RR: 16
Reply 4, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days ago) and read 4340 times:

T is for "temporal", afterwards it changes to the correct ending, C, P, CP etc. Most of the above mentioned VH aircraft already have the "C" ending, except 134T. The rest is 01C to 06C. Don't know about the others.

regards,
 santahat 


User currently offlineA388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9720 posts, RR: 11
Reply 5, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 4316 times:

I told the "T" is used when an aircraft is leased before being registered in Venezuela itself. I took this photos in CUR a while ago:


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Photo © Roger Cannegieter



It's funny to see this registration type if you're used to the "C" ending. Howl long ago has this "T" registration been used. I've never seen this until now.

Saludos,

A388


User currently offline757MDE From Colombia, joined Sep 2004, 1753 posts, RR: 6
Reply 6, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 4289 times:

So it's like the analog to the Colombian "X"


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User currently offlineCivilav From Mexico, joined Oct 2004, 391 posts, RR: 12
Reply 7, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days ago) and read 4220 times:

VIASA,

Quoting 757MDE (Reply 6):
So it's like the analog to the Colombian "X"

Venezuela civil aviation directorate changed, effective January 1975, its system of registering aircraft. Many of you may recall the typical "YV-C-VIA" for instance of Viasa's first Convair-88022M. To make things more orderly, a number was subsituted after the YV-prefix followed by any of the following letters:
C: Commercial (intended for public service)
CP: Commercial but for private service only (like a company plane)
P: Private
G: Government
E: For training from the Spanish "Escuela"
X: Experimental

There was never a T considered then.

With so many aircraft leased, (like occurred with VIASA's 1 DC-10 which, for many years until it was finally totally paid, flew as PH-DTG) it has become apparent that it is necessary to have them with a Venezuelan "Temporary" registration pending either full purchase or else, a return to the lessor.

So, to address the issue, yes T is analogous to the Colombian "X" suffix in use since the early 70 when Avianca began a fleet procurement plan with leased aeroplanes.

Greetings from Cancun !


User currently offline757MDE From Colombia, joined Sep 2004, 1753 posts, RR: 6
Reply 8, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 4170 times:

Quoting Civilav (Reply 7):
So, to address the issue, yes T is analogous to the Colombian "X" suffix in use since the early 70 when Avianca began a fleet procurement plan with leased aeroplanes.

Thanks for the confirmation!



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User currently offlineRobK From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2004, 3946 posts, RR: 18
Reply 9, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 4148 times:

Quite a few countries have their official aircraft register online to access, does Venezuela have one? I can't find it anywhere.

RK


User currently offlineViasa From Switzerland, joined Jun 2005, 1870 posts, RR: 6
Reply 10, posted (8 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 4106 times:

I post my answer a second time - it was deleted by a forum moderator. Now it's without a (single) link to JP.net....

Here we go:

Here are all registration with links:

YV115T:
MyAviation.net photo:
Click here for bigger photo!
Photo © Daniel Roa


YV130T:
MyAviation.net photo:
Click here for bigger photo!
Photo © e.wolff


YV131T:
MyAviation.net photo:
Click here for bigger photo!
Photo © Alexander Calderon Angulo


YV133T: picture you can see on JP.net

YV134T:
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Photo © Roger Cannegieter


YV137T:
MyAviation.net photo:
Click here for bigger photo!
Photo © E.WOLFF


YV138T:
MyAviation.net photo:
Click here for bigger photo!
Photo © Daniel Roa


YV142T:
MyAviation.net photo:
Click here for bigger photo!
Photo © Manuel Ernesto Silva


YV167T:
MyAviation.net photo:
Click here for bigger photo!
Photo © Manuel Ernesto Silva



I'm sure that all this aircraft had a C-registration before. It make no sense to change the registration to a temporary regi and than switch back to YV-xxxC.

And by the way, all the T-registration are seen between October 2005 and now.

The thing about the Viasa DC-10 are an other story. This planes (5 aircrafts, not sure) were leased from a dutch company (linked with KLM) - sorry I can't remember the name of this company.

[Edited 2005-12-06 19:18:43]

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