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New JAX Service?  
User currently offlineJuanchie From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 190 posts, RR: 0
Posted (9 years 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 2054 times:

It has been awhile since I heard any news on new KJAX air service. I know that Eagle started new service to KORD. Does anyone know how thats going? I know Chatauqua flies some ERJS down to FLL now too, but that doesnt seem to be going well since I am receive weekly announcements of sales on that route. Any new service that could occur in the new year?





Juan


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User currently offlineAkjetBlue From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 790 posts, RR: 5
Reply 1, posted (9 years 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 2015 times:

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User currently offlineOttoPylit From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (9 years 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 2005 times:

Quoting Juanchie (Thread starter):
know Chatauqua flies some ERJS down to FLL now too, but that doesnt seem to be going well since I am receive weekly announcements of sales on that route.

Actually, the RP flights are going very well from load numbers. They usually carry a 90% LF, but are also low yield. Although slow through the fall, they have since had ERJ's reinstated for all flights except one, which is still an ER3.

Quoting AkjetBlue (Reply 1):
*** cough cough *** jet *** cough *** blue *** cough cough

Good*** cough cough*** luck**** cough *** no *** cough ***gate *** cough *** space *** cough


Unless they can wrangle a gate away from US Airways or connect their own jetway to the end of B Concourse, they will have a hard time finding a place to park, unless they want to pay the outrageous parking fees to use the international gates. But as far as ground boarding, UA has taken control of almost all spaces at the end of B.



OttoPylit

[Edited 2005-12-05 05:41:20]

User currently offlineJuanchie From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 190 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (9 years 2 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 1949 times:

I am sure you know more than I do because I have only flown out of JAX twice within the last 8 months or so, but IIRC, the gate right beside Indy is still unused. I did notice that US is starting to use the first gate in B again which is good to see. As a JAX resident, its always exciting to come in late at night and see the airport packed with airplanes.




Juan



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User currently offlineDeltaMIA From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 1672 posts, RR: 17
Reply 4, posted (9 years 2 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 1913 times:

Quoting OttoPylit (Reply 2):
Good*** cough cough*** luck**** cough *** no *** cough ***gate *** cough *** space *** cough

You need to have that cough checked out. I am sure JAX will find a way to bring jetBlue in and provide them with parking especially considering they will likely be handled by an OAL. Although its a safe bet you won't see any B6 aircraft on A Concourse.



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User currently offlineModesto2 From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 2819 posts, RR: 5
Reply 5, posted (9 years 2 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 1876 times:

It's a shame that gate space is unavailable considering how the airport is always dead. During the summer, I spent about 6 hours waiting for a flight (noon-6pm) and there was hardly any traffic at the airport. Additionally, I flew over JAX on many of my training flights at all hours of the day and the airport is sadly...uncongested.

User currently offlineOttoPylit From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (9 years 2 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 1820 times:

Quoting Juanchie (Reply 3):
the gate right beside Indy is still unused.

The gate besides Indy is still unused, but if I remember correctly, UA is still holding the lease on that(they had it when UA mainline flew into JAX) and have just been waiting for Indy to die. But, being that they now have 4 RON's at the end of B, they may be content down there. They are all by themselves, and have an endless amount of tarmac to park planes.

Quoting DeltaMIA (Reply 4):
You need to have that cough checked out.

I know, its all this winter weather thats getting to me.

Quoting DeltaMIA (Reply 4):
I am sure JAX will find a way to bring jetBlue in and provide them with parking especially considering they will likely be handled by an OAL. Although its a safe bet you won't see any B6 aircraft on A Concourse.

But why have B6 come in? You already have WN, DH, and FL, and several non-stops a day to LGA and JFK via DL and EWR via CO, and WN did have an ISP flight that now runs through BNA, I believe. So whats the point of have ANOTHER New York flying airline in there? Unless they are planning on LGB service from JAX, I just don't see the point. And yes, very unlikely you will see any on A, although I'm sure that DL or NW would LOVE to handle them.  Wink I would say the best bet on seeing them would be over on B, as US doesn't make full utilization of their gates except at night.

Quoting Modesto2 (Reply 5):
During the summer, I spent about 6 hours waiting for a flight (noon-6pm) and there was hardly any traffic at the airport.

There shouldn't have been. WN usually has a pretty hopping operation, although I have began to notice during my jaunts through JAX that their numbers are starting to dwindle. Between the hours of 3-7p, A concourse is crazy with DL and NW ops, a couple every hour. But the wierd thing with JAX is that although it is busy, everyone comes in at different times to make it seem not as busy. Its certainly no MCO or LGA, but hey, you take what you can get, right?



OttoPylit


User currently offlineDLCnxgptjax From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 353 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (9 years 2 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 1785 times:

Come to JAX between 6am and around 7 to 730am and see it at what I believe to be it's busiest time of day. All of the morning departures going out and all. Someone correct me if I'm wrong but I believe delta has 8 or 9 RON's. NW has 2, US has 4 (give or take 1), CO has 4, FL has 1, DH has 1, UA has 4, WN has 4, and AA has 4 (there was the STL rj that overnited, but sat. morning it wasn't there). That's a total of about 32 aircraft RON in jax. Again I may be wrong be an aircraft or two on a couple of them.

User currently offlineFlyPNS1 From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 6730 posts, RR: 24
Reply 8, posted (9 years 2 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 1766 times:

Quoting OttoPylit (Reply 6):
So whats the point of have ANOTHER New York flying airline in there?

Better service. Lower fares. That's two reasons that come to mind.

I looked at a JAX-JFK ticket in March and DL wanted $316. That's not a terrible fare, but I'll bet JetBlue's advanced purchase fare would probably be at least $100 cheaper.

Not to mention that JetBlue's EMB190's would be vastly superior in customer comfort to DL's CRJs.


User currently offlineJuanchie From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 190 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (9 years 2 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 1661 times:

I agree JFK service really isnt needed, but we both know the big guys over at JIA dont really put a lot of thought into things. From what I remeber, those people who run JAX are really into that whole LCC thing and are really on the Jetblue bandwagon. They dont really think things through like how DL would react. Case in point, the Fraport fiasco that i predicted would go down in flames.


Juan



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User currently offlineOttoPylit From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (9 years 2 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 1661 times:

Quoting DLCnxgptjax (Reply 7):
Someone correct me if I'm wrong but I believe delta has 8 or 9 RON's

That was true, but with the reduced flight schedules on Dec. 1, DL RON's have dropped to 7, I believe.

Quoting FlyPNS1 (Reply 8):
Better service. Lower fares. That's two reasons that come to mind.

Nice try, but the low fares are already there(WN, FL, DH) and the service is already good, I've done it many times. And the fare you quoted, is one of the highest in the computer, so try not to quote a high priced fare next time.

Quoting FlyPNS1 (Reply 8):

Not to mention that JetBlue's EMB190's would be vastly superior in customer comfort to DL's CRJs.

And thats because you have flown the 190's how many times? With you, again speculation and personal opinions outweigh truth and fact. Thats two things that you have erred on that come to mind. Tsk, tsk.  no 



OttoPylit


User currently offlineFlyPNS1 From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 6730 posts, RR: 24
Reply 11, posted (9 years 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 1612 times:

Quoting OttoPylit (Reply 10):
Nice try, but the low fares are already there(WN, FL, DH) and the service is already good, I've done it many times.

WN doesn't really serve the NYC market. ISP isn't going to cut it.

DH isn't really an LCC and will probably be gone shortly. Plus, with DH you have to connect through IAD.

FL would also require a connection through a congested ATL.

None of the LCC's provide nonstop service to

Quoting OttoPylit (Reply 10):
And the fare you quoted, is one of the highest in the computer, so try not to quote a high priced fare next time.

I picked random dates in March...and the lowest roundtrip fare that came on Delta's website was $316. I can't help it if DL's website is poor.

Quoting OttoPylit (Reply 10):
And thats because you have flown the 190's how many times?

I've flown on an E170, so I feel pretty comfortable saying the E190 will be superior to the CRJ.


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