Milemaster From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 1066 posts, RR: 2 Posted (8 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 2845 times:
Don't shoot the messenger as this hasn't been confirmed.
I hope everything gets cleared up as there are many great people at Delta. Some could argue the best of the best work for Delta... just maybe not in their accounting dept.
Committee Objects to Delta's Use of Disability and Survivor
NEW YORK, Dec. 6 /PRNewswire/ -- Yesterday, the Official Committee of Delta Retirees filed a motion in the Delta bankruptcy case to end Delta Air Lines' improper use of funds from a separate Disability and Survivors Trust. Delta had spent over $30 million of the Trust funds in the last three years for employee severance benefits, even though the Trust documents prohibited those payments since March 2002.
In a filing during the first week of the bankruptcy, Delta had claimed the Trust was "fully funded," but financials provided since show the Trust has an asset shortfall of more than $212 million. The Committee also raised questions in its motion about Delta's separate amendment of its benefit plans, two days before the bankruptcy, to retroactively authorize $22 million in 2004 payments out of the Trust for active workers' sick pay.
ScarletHarlot From Canada, joined Jul 2003, 4673 posts, RR: 56
Reply 1, posted (8 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 2800 times:
This is very interesting. Benefits offered under the D&S plan have been decimated over the past few years. Misusing money out of the trust is a very, very big deal and I hope it gets straightened out.
It is possible for the trust to be both "fully funded" and to also have an asset shortfall. Pension trusts are valued under several different methodologies and it is entirely possible for one formula to show a shortfall and another to show it as fully funded. When a shortfall exists, a series of payments into the trust are set up to fund the trust and this set of payments may be considered in some valuation methods.
I hear that Delta is considering terminating its pension plans. No surprise there, really.
Wjcandee From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 5163 posts, RR: 22
Reply 2, posted (8 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 2778 times:
Typical headline-grabbing-lawyer posturing. Expect a lot more of this over the next few months. Also, let's lay of the "may have" crap. DL "may" have a pilot's strike. DL "may" liquidate. Delta "may" fly radioactive planes. Delta "may" not even really exist.
Richierich From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 4262 posts, RR: 6
Reply 3, posted (8 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 2685 times:
I thought by the title that this may have been another Song thread!
Seriously, I hope it gets worked out. Its probably being blown out of context due to BK proceedings - everything comes under the microscope and mistakes will be dealt with. These 'mistakes' can happen anywhere.