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User currently offlineMsett1 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 44 posts, RR: 0
Posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 2529 times:

Hi,

Indepence Air in Tampa replied to my resume today. They seem very interested. I know they are not in the greatest condition but any advice about how they are to work for? Do they have any non revenue agreements with other airlines? I know they are up for auction so you could end up jobless even with that. Figure at least some expearience could be gained out of this possibly short term postion.

Matt

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User currently offlineEMBQA From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 9364 posts, RR: 11
Reply 1, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 2491 times:

They'll be luck to stay in business in their current cash flow condition. Some say they may not make the end of the year.....


"It's not the size of the dog in the fight, but the size of the fight in the dog"
User currently offlineUnitedtristar From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 2378 times:

Its like checking into a burning hotel

-m

 airplane 


User currently offlineLightsaber From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 12888 posts, RR: 100
Reply 3, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 2353 times:
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Quoting Unitedtristar (Reply 2):
Its like checking into a burning hotel

With the right date, it could be a really hot date in more than one way!  flamed 

Msett1, sorry, I couldn't advise. But you might want to try it just for the fun of it. What type of postion? (With the furloughs, I'm not about to guess a pilot of f/a.)

Lightsaber



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User currently offlineAJRfromSYR From United States of America, joined May 2005, 454 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 2338 times:

What could you lose?


-AJR-
User currently offlineFutureFO From Ireland, joined Oct 2001, 3132 posts, RR: 21
Reply 5, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 2332 times:

They do not really have any agreements with other airlines. I would apply with alot more stable airline, like lets say Southwest. You will be lucky to get a month of gainful employment with DH. I say put out your resume to other airlines. Do not board a sinking ship.


Sean from MCO and IND



I Don't know where I am anymore
User currently offlineMsett1 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 44 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 2296 times:

So no one think its even worth doing for the short time? I just wonder what there is to loose. Its a CSA postion. Also when you go to DC for 3 weeks training, are you able to fly home on weeknds, and non rev?

Matt


User currently offlineCaptover From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 87 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 2212 times:

I think you should go ahead and give it a try. Independence has received several indications of interest to buy the airline as a going concern or invest in the current airline. Tampa is one of Independence's best markets so it would be unlikely that they would pull out. Also, Independence has employee interline agreements with about 50 airlines from small regionals like Cape Air to large international airlines such as Qantas and Lufthansa. Hope this helps.

User currently offlineMalaysia From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 3330 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 2129 times:

Quoting Msett1 (Thread starter):
Do they have any non revenue agreements with other airlines?

This is the main pass bureau list given to me from my friend at FLYI

the second fare is for Parents and the NO/YES is for Companions

Air Berlin (AB) ZM ZM NO Minimum 6 months employment
Air Canada (AC) 800-413-1113 ZM ZH NO Minimum 1 year employment
AirTran (FL) 800-AIRTRAN FEE FEE NO $25 one-way, $50 round-trip; must obtain authorization from Employee Travel and purchase at AirTran Ticket Counter
Alaska Airlines (AS) 800-ALASKAAIR ID90 ID75 NO Minimum 6 months employment; dependents under 21
Allegiant Air (SA)">G4) 800-432-3810 FEE FEE NO $25 one-way, $50 round-trip plus tax
Aloha Airlines (AQ) 800-367-5250 ID90 ID75 NO Minimum fare $50 one-way, $100 round trip
America West (HP) 800-894-PASS FEE FEE NO $25 one-way, $50 round-trip
American Trans Air (TZ) 800-I-FLY-ATA FEE FEE NO United States $25 one-way; SJU/Hawaii/Mexico/Caribbean $45 one-way; Europe $80 one-way
British Midland (BD) ZM ZM NO Minimum 6 months employment
Cape Air (9K) 800-352-0714 FEE FEE NO $15 one-way
Cayman Airways (KX) 800-422-9626 ID90 ID75 NO
Colgan Air (9L) ID90 ID90 NO Minimum 6 months employment
Colorado Mountain Express () 800-525-6363 FEE FEE NO $25 one-way, $50 round-trip; dependents under 21; retirees
Commutair () 800-231-3273 FEE FEE NO $25 one-way
El Al Israel Airlines (LY) 800-223-6700 ZM ZH NO Minimum 6 months employment
Ethiopian Airlines (ET) ZL ZL NO Minimum 6 months employment; Listing is required on all ET flights at departure city
Etihad Airways (EY) ZL ZL NO Minimum 6 months employment; Listing is required
Great Lakes (ZK) 800-554-5111 FEE FEE NO $15 one-way, $30 round-trip
Hawaiian Airlines (HA) 888-899-9875 ID90 ID75 NO Minimum 6 months employment
Horizon (QX) 800-547-9308 FEE FEE NO $25 one-way; $50 round-trip
Iceland Air (FI) 800-715-3547 ID90 ID75 NO
Island Air (WP) 800-323-3345 ID90 ID75 NO $25 one-way, $50 round-trip
Jazz (AC) Contact Air Canada NO
JetBlue Airways (B6) 800-JET-BLUE FEE FEE YES $25 one-way; must obtain authorization from Employee Travel and purchase at JetBlue Ticket Counter; one companion allowed, must travel with employee; maximum 6 companion round trips per year
Korean Air (KE) 800-438-5000 ZM ZM NO Minimum 6 months employment
Lufthansa (LH) 800-399-LUFT ZL ZH NO 8 passes per employee per calendar year; parents must travel with employee; minimum 6 months employment
Martinair Holland (MP) 800-MARTINAIR FEE FEE YES $250 round-trip; USA-AMS only; one companion allowed; minimum 6 months employment
Mesa (YV) 800-637-2910 FEE FEE NO $25 one-way, $50 round-trip
Mesaba (XJ) FEE FEE NO $25 one-way, $50 round-trip
Mexicana (MX) 800-531-7921 FEE NO NO Fiesta Fare $125 round-trip; additional $25 per connection; must obtain authorization from Employee Travel and buy From Mexicana
Midwest Airlines (YX) 800-452-2022 FEE FEE NO $25 one-way, $50 round-trip
North American Airlines (NK) 800-FLY-NAA2 FEE FEE NO $25 one-way, $50 round trip
Pakistan Intl. Airlines (PK) 800-578-6786 ID90/FEE NO NO JFK to KHI/ISB/LHE $150 plus tax round-trip; $50 plus tax round-trip inside Pakistan
Paradise Island Airlines () ID90 ID75 NO
Polynesian Airlines (PH) 800-264-0823 ID90 ID75 NO One ID90 per calendar year; unlimited ID75s
Qantas (QF) ZM NO NO EMBARGO: No non-rev travel from Australia/NZ to LAX Dec 13-23, Jan 11-28; no non-rev travel from LAX to Australia/NZ Dec 31-Jan 10; Minimum 6 months employment
Saeta (EH) FEE NO NO USA/Canada to South America only; minimum 1 year employment
SSA)">AS Scandinavian Airlines (SK) 800-221-2350 ZL ZH NO 8 passes per employee per calendar year; parents must travel with employee; minimum 6 months employment
Saudi Arabian Airlines (SV) ID90 ID75 NO
Skyway/Midwest Express (JZ) 800-452-2022 FEE FEE NO $25 one-way; $50 round-trip
Skywest (OO) FEE FEE NO $25 plus tax one-way systemwide; minimum 6 months employment
South African Airways (SA) 800-722-9675 ZM NO NO Minimum 6 months employment
Southwest (WN) FEE FEE NO $25 one-way, $50 round-trip plus $3.20 segment tax per connection and $2.50 security tax per segment; minimum 6 months employment
SpanAir (JK) ID90 ID90 NO Minimum 6 months employment; dependents under 21
Spirit Airlines (MK) 800-772-7117 FEE FEE YES $20 one-way; $40 round-trip; must obtain authorization from Employee Travel and purchase at Spirit Ticket Counter; companion must travel with employee; maximum 3 companion round trips per year
Trans Meridian (T9) 866-435-9862 FEE FEE NO $25 one-way; $50 round-trip plus tax
US Airways (US) 800-943-5436 ZM ZM NO Minimum 6 months employment
Virgin Atlantic (VS) 800-862-8621 ZM ZM YES Minimum 6 months employment; Fly anywhere system wide and bring a companion; employee must travel with companion; no upgrade



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User currently offlineMalaysia From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 3330 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 2125 times:

Quoting Captover (Reply 7):
Lufthansa

my friend at DH told me that LH just killed the agreement this month due to the bankrupcy at DH, they dont want DH employees flying LH anymore.



There Are Those Who Believe That There May Yet Be Other Airlines Who Even Now Fight To Survive Beyond The Heavens
User currently offlineSWA TPA From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 1559 posts, RR: 34
Reply 10, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 2059 times:

Quoting Captover (Reply 7):
Tampa is one of Independence's best markets so it would be unlikely that they would pull out.

HUH!? They only operate two flights per day last time I checked. They have done nothing but cut flights out of Tampa since they started.
I would like to see them add flights back to Tampa actually  Smile

SWA TPA



I believe I can fly.....
User currently offlineAirlinelover From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 5580 posts, RR: 23
Reply 11, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 2025 times:

You get in with them, and you'll be looking for a new job within a few months.. Enjoy!

Chris



Lets do some sexy math. We add you, subtract your clothes, divide your legs and multiply
User currently offlineHPLASOps From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 1814 times:

Try HP, they welcome newcomers to the industry and the travel benefits are great. Plus, you get to work for an airline with the worst reputation in the industry and if you bust your ass for five years you might even earn a livable wage!

User currently offlineUA2162 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 494 posts, RR: 2
Reply 13, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 1717 times:

Heck, you might as well give it a shot if it's not going to be your #1 job. The experience will look good on your resume. It might be a way into a more stable airline.

I say go for it.


User currently offlineIAirAllie From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 1573 times:

Quoting FutureFO (Reply 5):
They do not really have any agreements with other airlines.

They actually have lots of interline agreements. The travel benefits are very good. If you have nothing to loose go for it why not. But if you have other offers or a current job that is stable I wouldn't take the risk. I was an FA for them things could be really frustrating sometimes because there was a lot of ingrained inefficiency. Over all though it was a fun place to work and there are lots of great employees especially at the outstations. The outstation employees seemed happier and the stations better run than the IAD hub.


User currently onlineNASBWI From Bahamas, joined Feb 2005, 1307 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 1563 times:

It's a tough call to make. I applied to become a flight attendant, and actually became one in October for DH. In my experience, financial situation notwithstanding, it has been wonderful. The employees are a joy to be around, and we all tend to have a lot of fun, even in the face of adversity. It's like a big family, and perhaps that's a big advantage of working for a small airline. I can't say what it's like for the CSA, as we all have different sets of responsibilities, but the CSA in IAD seem like a pretty friendly bunch (generally). It has only been two months, and some have already thrown the "enjoy it for the 3 months while it lasts" comments in my face, but quite honestly, I have no regrets. It has been a fun ride, and I wish DH only the best.

That said though, the problem is that I got in two months ago, and that was even pushing the envelope...coming aboard now, with all that's going on, may not be a wise decision. If you can, wait it out a week or two, and see what news comes regarding the company. If things sound like they're gonna pick up, then by all means come on over! But don't put all your eggs in one basket...especially when that basket doesn't appear to be the strongest in the market, y'know? All the best to you!

Oh, and as per the nonrev travel, I don't think you're eligible until you've actually been hired (and have received a valid employee number). That's how it was for us, anyway. Cheers!



Fierce, Fabulous, and Flawless ;)
User currently offlineMsett1 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 44 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 1559 times:

She ended up passing on the oppurtunity. We are going to wait until we get to southern california next summer.

Matt


User currently offlineKevin82277 From United States of America, joined May 2000, 179 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 1398 times:

Quoting FutureFO (Reply 5):
They do not really have any agreements with other airlines.

Also, when you work for an airline, you have station agreements with other airlines at your station, most of the time for free travel. Then you have the intreline agreements listed above.


User currently offlineKROC From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 1345 times:

Quoting Airlinelover (Reply 11):
You get in with them, and you'll be looking for a new job within a few months.. Enjoy!

If anyone knows about looking for a new job, its Airlinelover.

Give the gig a shot. Its not going to hurt and at the worst, you might get some experience out if it.


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