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Delta Ran Out Of Cash On Screening New Hires  
User currently offlineMalaysia From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 3371 posts, RR: 0
Posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 8336 times:

My friend was given a drug test/hearing test/ and physical test for a job offer at Delta, actually he got through the drug and hearing test which were conducted as walk in at the same site, but instructed to make an appointment for the physical test which was at another site and apparently the site cancelled the appointment and called back to my friend saying that they wont honor the Physical test cause Delta has not paid them for several previous appointments. my friend had to call the manager and now they got into a situation where Delta in ATL cannot supply additional funds for some pre-screening tests.

I thought it was kind of funny due to the cash issue at DL right now and it went as far as pre-employment tests


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User currently offlineMarshalN From Hong Kong, joined Sep 2005, 1521 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 8326 times:

Hmmm

This doesn't sound good


User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21562 posts, RR: 59
Reply 2, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 8296 times:

Sounds like DL is in bad shape from all the various reports.

So who gets their planes?

I bet CO could use some of those 764ER GEs. Would solve a lot of problems if they could get a good finance/lease deal on them. It would free up some 777s for non-europe use, and really allow for expansion out of IAH internationally.



Of all the things to worry about... the Wookie has no pants.
User currently offlineUadc8contrail From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 1782 posts, RR: 9
Reply 3, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 8296 times:

was your friend given positive space tickets from malasyia to atlanta?


bus driver.......move that bus:)
User currently offlineMalaysia From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 3371 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 8281 times:

Quoting Uadc8contrail (Reply 3):
was your friend given positive space tickets from malasyia to atlanta?

He is in the US and it was for a local station anyway.



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User currently offlineVonRichtofen From Canada, joined Nov 2000, 4634 posts, RR: 36
Reply 5, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 8130 times:

If they're so cash strapped, then why the hell are they hiring?

Kris



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User currently offlineUSAIRWAYS321 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 1848 posts, RR: 9
Reply 6, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 8088 times:

Quoting VonRichtofen (Reply 5):
If they're so cash strapped, then why the hell are they hiring?

Because people are leaving so they don't go down with the ship?


User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21562 posts, RR: 59
Reply 7, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 8030 times:

Quoting VonRichtofen (Reply 5):
If they're so cash strapped, then why the hell are they hiring?

plus all businesses of that size have turnover no matter what, and you have to keep jobs filled if they are necessary.



Of all the things to worry about... the Wookie has no pants.
User currently offlineJumbojet From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 1159 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 7945 times:

people look for anyway possible to put a negative spin on Delta. You people out there are like the doom and gloom of society, give me a break

User currently offlineJacobin777 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 14968 posts, RR: 59
Reply 9, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 7891 times:

Quoting Jumbojet (Reply 8):
people look for anyway possible to put a negative spin on Delta. You people out there are like the doom and gloom of society, give me a break

But it still doesn't answer the original question... no 

 wave 



"Up the Irons!"
User currently offlineJumbojet From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 1159 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 7821 times:

Quoting Jumbojet (Reply 8):
But it still doesn't answer the original question...

It wasn't meant to answer any question in particular, just the overall mood of the crap you see on here.  butthead 


User currently offlineB777-700 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 7800 times:

Quoting Malaysia (Thread starter):
My friend was given a drug test/hearing test/ and physical test for a job offer at Delta, actually he got through the drug and hearing test which were conducted as walk in at the same site, but instructed to make an appointment for the physical test which was at another site and apparently the site cancelled the appointment and called back to my friend saying that they wont honor the Physical test cause Delta has not paid them for several previous appointments. my friend had to call the manager and now they got into a situation where Delta in ATL cannot supply additional funds for some pre-screening tests.

Sound like a third hand story that could easily be misinterpreted

Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 2):
So who gets their planes?

No one. They're not out of business, and this has nothing to do with the topic.

Quoting Jacobin777 (Reply 9):
But it still doesn't answer the original question...

Um, there ISN'T an original question, just a "my roommate's cousin's daughters friend heard...." story.

Quoting Jumbojet (Reply 10):
It wasn't meant to answer any question in particular, just the overall mood of the crap you see on here.

Preach on, bro!


User currently offlineTozairport From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 686 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 7763 times:

Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 2):
So who gets their planes?

United. After they merge with Continental and buy HP/AA. Then the whole comglomerate will merge with LH and buy BA. And all of the will be done just to piss AA and NW off.

There you go. A dumb answer to a dumb question.



Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.
User currently offlineMalaysia From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 3371 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 7668 times:

Quoting VonRichtofen (Reply 5):
If they're so cash strapped, then why the hell are they hiring?

He said that many at the local station are retiring, not jumping ship, but they have to fix the payment problem before the new hires can continue on.



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User currently offlineJumpseat70 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 7582 times:

Anytime any company declares BK....creditors want either cash up front or "instant" payment.

When in BK, every penny has be preappoved by the BK judge.

This is how BK works. If a creditor gets nervous or has their own rocky financial problems, they cancel or slow down the product.

There aren't any secrets out there folks. We are in BK. Okay? And we are trying to survive. I HAVE SAID IT!! OMG!! IT'S OUT IN THE OPEN.

Is it so hard to understand that a solid company like Delta can do what so many other have done before it. Call United and ask them how they are doing?


User currently offlineKC135TopBoom From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 12173 posts, RR: 51
Reply 15, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 7499 times:

Quoting Jumpseat70 (Reply 14):
Anytime any company declares BK....creditors want either cash up front or "instant" payment.

When in BK, every penny has be preappoved by the BK judge.

This is how BK works. If a creditor gets nervous or has their own rocky financial problems, they cancel or slow down the product.

All of that is true. Some functions (like the HR hiring) may run out of money from time to time. But, they eventually will get the money they need to complete their business functions.

Seems to me the predictions of DL's demise is a little premature at this point. They have only been in BK for just under 2 months now (filed on 17 Oct. 05). If UA and US can make it, I believe that DL and NW can also make it.


User currently offlineDALMD88 From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 2602 posts, RR: 15
Reply 16, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 7472 times:

Many people don't think about the small business that get hurt in large company BK's. Many small business get burned. They don't have the cash flow to absorb the loss like a large supplier can.

User currently offlineLTBEWR From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 13170 posts, RR: 15
Reply 17, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 7414 times:

How many vendors of services to DL are owed a good part of their revenues? When companies are in BK and are owed money, they will often suspend doing business with them until paid or paid cash for new business. Probably with many jumping ship from DL while they can get their full pensions before they get dumped to the Feds, they need to fill more jobs then there has be money budgeted for replacement. Under BK, budgets are either frozen or reduced as needed as to lower priority business functions.

User currently offlineDougloid From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 7327 times:

IIRC Delta used to give the MMPI to potential hires for mechanic jobs. That hadda be expensive giving it and then having a shrink interpret the results.

User currently offlineJacobin777 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 14968 posts, RR: 59
Reply 19, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 7263 times:

Quoting Jumbojet (Reply 10):
It wasn't meant to answer any question in particular, just the overall mood of the crap you see on here. butthead



Quoting B777-700 (Reply 11):
Um, there ISN'T an original question, just a "my roommate's cousin's daughters friend heard...." story.

great valuable contributions..... sarcastic 



"Up the Irons!"
User currently offlineSunValley From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 7214 times:

I'm sure this is not true. If the medical company has a contract with Delta, they are bound by a fiduciary responsiblity. They would not give a non-payment reason as why the services were cancelled.

User currently offlineBOS2LAF From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 375 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 6954 times:

Quoting Jumbojet (Reply 8):
people look for anyway possible to put a negative spin on Delta. You people out there are like the doom and gloom of society, give me a break



Quoting Jumbojet (Reply 10):
It wasn't meant to answer any question in particular, just the overall mood of the crap you see on here.

I'm not the doom and gloom of society, and I would like to see Delta emerge intact. But lets be realistic, shall we? You would have to be either naieve or ignorant not to recognize that the situation at Delta is pretty bleak.

That being said, however ugly things at Delta are, it's still a little premature to start writing the will or shopping around for the casket. Lets also not forget that things at UA and US got worse before they got better ...or less bad might be a better way of putting it.


User currently offlinePositiverate From United States of America, joined May 2005, 1590 posts, RR: 8
Reply 22, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 6504 times:

Quoting Malaysia (Thread starter):
My friend was given a drug test/hearing test/ and physical test for a job offer at Delta, actually he got through the drug and hearing test which were conducted as walk in at the same site, but instructed to make an appointment for the physical test which was at another site and apparently the site cancelled the appointment and called back to my friend saying that they wont honor the Physical test cause Delta has not paid them for several previous appointments. my friend had to call the manager and now they got into a situation where Delta in ATL cannot supply additional funds for some pre-screening tests.

I thought it was kind of funny due to the cash issue at DL right now and it went as far as pre-employment tests

If anyone else had made this post then maybe I would take it seriously. But given the authors previous posts in other threads I think it would be best if we take it for what it likely is: the uninformed ramblings of a potstirrer.


User currently offlineB777-700 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 6262 times:

Quoting Jacobin777 (Reply 19):
great valuable contributions.....



Quoting SunValley (Reply 20):
I'm sure this is not true. If the medical company has a contract with Delta, they are bound by a fiduciary responsiblity. They would not give a non-payment reason as why the services were cancelled.



Quoting Positiverate (Reply 22):
If anyone else had made this post then maybe I would take it seriously. But given the authors previous posts in other threads I think it would be best if we take it for what it likely is: the uninformed ramblings of a potstirrer.

Ok, tell me your highness, what exactly is the "original question" you are refering to?

Why should I put anything of value into what is IMO a completely useless post?

You can't shine a terd...


User currently offlineDarrenthe747 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 6059 times:

turd, actually duck 

but seriously, I agree that something doesn't sound quite right here. I doubt delta pays these vists on a per visit basis, more like the medical group sends them a bill every month or something, contrary to paying per visit. But if the story is totally true, and Delta is so bad off that they are defaulting on their monthly bills, then I wouldn't call this thread starter the doom and gloom of society. That's pretty bad, IF it's a true story that is, which as I said I am skeptical of.


25 LMP737 : Don't know about other department's but I have heard that a lot of Delta's A&P mechanics are leaving on their own accord.
26 Malaysia : Yes it is a true story, the message was left on the answering machine in response to the already set appointment and the rep at the clinic seemed to
27 TinkerBelle : Well, DL spent all the cash in buying ex- BA and AF concordes to do the ATL-MCO run so no wonder they're out cash. From what I heard, they'll lease t
28 Post contains images B777-700 : After a quick check, I can confirm that, no nothing like this is happening. At most, it's a lab that is saying this as a "pre-emptive strike", (like
29 Positiverate : Hey pal, take a walk. In my opinion this guy is a potstirrer and I am more then entitled to point that out to and to point out the lkack of credibili
30 Malaysia : Why would my friend bash DL if he was given a conditional offer and now in process to join DL. he is excited about it and he just got the call when h
31 DeltaMIA : Sounds like an Aetna issue. After all they are the ones requiring the PAT now for new hires.
32 Malaysia : Maybe so cause the PAT thing is new to me, when I worked for DL as a CSA, I never had to take a PAT when I was hired.
33 B777-700 : Wait, we agree?
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