SHUPirate1 From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 3661 posts, RR: 18 Reply 1, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 3512 times:
Ryanair doesn't have any connecting passengers, therefore, they do not have any hubs (in both cases, in theory)...
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Laxintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 22235 posts, RR: 51 Reply 2, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 3499 times:
Ryanair as mentioned does not operate hubs perse. Instead they have multiple "bases" / focus cities.
They curently operate 14; Stansted, Glasgow, Dublin, Liverpool, Cork, Shannon, Luton, Beauvais, Stockholm Skavsta, Frankfurt Hahn, Milan Bergamo, Rome Ciampino, Barcelona Girona, and Pisa.
A 15th base at East Midlands is scheduled to be launched in early 2006.
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Elagabal From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2005, 197 posts, RR: 0 Reply 3, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 3462 times:
All that could be added to post 2 is that London Stansted (STN) is by far FR's biggest and busiest base / quasi-hub, and also that the Scottish airport they serve best is Glasgow Prestwick (PIK), a smallish if growing airport (with a sh**ty runway!) in Ayrshire, and not Glasgow International (GLA), which is much closer to town.
DouglasDC10 From Germany, joined Feb 2000, 167 posts, RR: 0 Reply 6, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 3206 times:
There are still plans to make Lübeck (LBC, or Hamburg-Lübeck as they call it) a base. They and airport operator Infratil are still in dispute with local authorities. It was announced before Pisa and Cork and would have been the 13th base. Currently, there are FR flights from Lübeck to Bergamo, Pisa, Stansted, Glasgow/Prestwick and Shannon. I would like to see LBC - EIN too but that route mght be too short.
Joost From Netherlands, joined Apr 2005, 3131 posts, RR: 4 Reply 8, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 3159 times:
Quoting DouglasDC10 (Reply 6): I would like to see LBC - EIN too but that route mght be too short.
Air Exel used to operate EIN-HAM on Embraer EMB-120 Brasilia aircraft, seating 30 passengers. Due to Philips- and related-traffic, this did work. However, I do not see them filling 189 passengers a day: both are not real touristic attractions and when you avoid peak hours you can drive from Eindhoven to Hamburg in 5 hours (without tolls), so VFR-traffic will not be too high either.
From Eindhoven, I suppose that expansion will be mostly aimed at tourist destinations for the Dutch (Italy & Spain) and perhaps one or two polish destionations - as the Dutch will issue work permits for all EU-citizens starting year, we will likely see an increase of people from poland, the baltics, hungary, etc., that will increase traffic.
My guess list for EIN:
- Venice/Treviso
- Some other Italian destionation
- One or two of Murcia / Granada / Sevilla / Jerez / Seville
- Krakow (or Rzeszow)
- Stockholm/Skavsta
Another airport that are 'hot' for a base is NRN (Dusseldorf Weeze), however, I might think that once Eindhoven is a base, NRN might be too close (1:15 drive between both airports) to start a base from too.
DouglasDC10 From Germany, joined Feb 2000, 167 posts, RR: 0 Reply 9, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 3083 times:
Perhaps there may be a potential as there is no low cost route betweent northern Germany and the Netherlands. As you said, Joost, it may be too short and the car may be an alternative. However, this is related to high costs (car rental, fuel, etc.). Perhaps Air Berlin, which is expanding in AMS, may launch AMS-HAM. But until now, we only have LH and KL, both with return fares of far above 200 EUR (with some special exceptions as for example LH's current 99 EUR offer excluding ticket service charge). So I normally use FR and U2 via STN when I travel to the Netherlands.
In a long-term I also see Balaton for EIN, if STN-SOB develops well. That is also a nice but still quite unknown holiday destinations.
An idea (also a guess) for a new hub would be a polish airport as Ryanair is focusing on this country, perhaps Lodz, Krakow or Rzeszow. And BTW, does anybody know why Ryanair doe not have any flights to Greece?
Joost From Netherlands, joined Apr 2005, 3131 posts, RR: 4 Reply 10, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 3068 times:
Air Berlin indeed already suggested once to open AMS-HAM, but also they said that maybe the driving distance would be too short. I see a AMS-HAM happen easier, also because Amsterdam has a huge potential for both tourists as price-concious business passengers.
I wonder wheter Wizzair is interested in Poland/Hungary-EIN too. Both airlines seem to me to strengthen each other, by serving the same regional airports, putting them on the map.
So,
Glasgow Prestwick
London Stansted
London Luton
Shannon
Dublin
Cork (only 3 Destinations though!)
Stockholm Skavsta
Frankfurt Hahn
Brussels Charleroi
Barcelona Girona
Milan Orio al Serio
Pisa / Florence
Rome Ciampino
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