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Alaska Airlines To Hawaii Rumor?  
User currently offlineQxeguy From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 81 posts, RR: 0
Posted (9 years 1 week 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 6669 times:

I heard a rumor that Alaska Airlines will be starting service to Hawaii. Anyone else heard this? Could it even be true?


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User currently offlineEA CO AS From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 13754 posts, RR: 61
Reply 1, posted (9 years 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 6599 times:
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Eventually it's going to happen.

http://www.alaskasworld.com/NEWS/2005/11/15_growth.asp

This week, the department notified the FAA that it plans to begin the certification process for Extended Twin-Engine Operations (ETOPS) for a portion of its 737-800 fleet.

“Without life vests or rafts, our aircraft must stay within 50 nautical miles of land,” says Scott Ridge, managing director of technical operations and support. “Along with equipping our –800s with life rafts, ETOPS will give us the ability to fly the most direct over water routes to Cancun, saving time and money. It will also allow us to apply for additional markets to Cancun under a new bilateral agreement between the U.S. and Mexico.

Although we have not currently decided upon any new markets, we move forward with the ETOPS process for our 737-800s. This will eliminate the time and expense of retrofitting existing aircraft in the future, putting us in position to take advantage of new opportunities, including Hawaii.”



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User currently offlineLono From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 1337 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (9 years 1 week 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 6431 times:

Quoting EA CO AS (Reply 1):
This will eliminate the time and expense of retrofitting existing aircraft in the future, putting us in position to take advantage of new opportunities, including Hawaii.”

About time..... They will fly ANC-HNL.... yes....????



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User currently offlineBluewave 707 From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 3152 posts, RR: 6
Reply 3, posted (9 years 1 week 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 6229 times:

Wouldn't be surprised to see SEA-HNL and PDX-HNL flights as well, that'll increase competion with HA and NW in those cities. ANC probably won't be a daily flight. HA flies to ANC on a limited basis.


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User currently offlineSimpilicity From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (9 years 1 week 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 6193 times:

What about HNL/YVR or HNL/YXX or HNL/YLW oe HNL/YYC in northern winter?

Actually thinking about it, all excpet HNL/YLW would be better served by large widebody in frequently, eg. once a week, a la Canada 3000.


User currently offlineS12PPL From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (9 years 1 week 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 6163 times:

I wish they'd do it soon! Alaska would compete somewhat well with NW and HA in this market out of PDX and SEA.

It might be a year or two, though, it sounds like Sad


User currently offlineRwSEA From Netherlands, joined Jan 2005, 3135 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (9 years 1 week 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 6141 times:

I'd like to see the following:

SEA-HNL (x2)
SEA-OGG
SEA-KOA

PDX-HNL
YVR-HNL
ANC-HNL


User currently offlineEA CO AS From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 13754 posts, RR: 61
Reply 7, posted (9 years 1 week 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 6121 times:
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Quoting Lono (Reply 2):
Quoting EA CO AS (Reply 1):
This will eliminate the time and expense of retrofitting existing aircraft in the future, putting us in position to take advantage of new opportunities, including Hawaii.”

About time..... They will fly ANC-HNL.... yes....????

Nothing has been announced just yet, but the ANC-HNL market is HUGE and vastly underserved. Any service to Hawaii will undoubtedly start with ANC-HNL, possibly followed by SEA-HNL service.

Depending on how strong demand becomes, ANC-OGG and SEA-OGG aren't out of the question either.

And I know you'll hate to hear this...but I doubt we'll see any service from PDX.  Sad



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User currently offlineLeneld From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 606 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (9 years 1 week 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 6093 times:

I'm going to have to agree with EA CO AS..As much as I would love to see Alaska start flying PDX-HNL, I think we are presently well served by Northwest and Hawaiian Air at this time....Maybe sometime in the future.....

User currently offlineMidway737 From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 125 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (9 years 1 week 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 6025 times:

Strange to have an airline called "Alaska Airlines" flying into Hawaii. Would be better if it call Aloha Airlines.


Oh never mind. we got that airline there anyway.


User currently offlineWedgetail737 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 5950 posts, RR: 6
Reply 10, posted (9 years 1 week 4 days ago) and read 5979 times:
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Fly Alaska to HNL from SEA is not any stranger than flying Alaska to Mexico.

I hope AS flies to HI soon. I would fly them any day over NW and HA.


User currently offlinePHXinterrupted From United States of America, joined Apr 2002, 474 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (9 years 1 week 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 5894 times:

I think Hawaiian has a much better product both in terms of service and a relatively new widebody fleet.


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User currently offlineHa763 From United States of America, joined Jan 2003, 3672 posts, RR: 5
Reply 12, posted (9 years 1 week 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 5795 times:
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The problem with ANC-HNL using 737-800s, even with winglets, is that it could probably be weight restricted most of the time. Aloha used to fly ANC-HNL for Hawaiian Vacations for a short time with their 737-700s before installing winglets and they were always weight restricted having to leave bags behind.

User currently offlineChugach From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 1041 posts, RR: 2
Reply 13, posted (9 years 1 week 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 5724 times:

I think the reason ANC-HNL hasn't been daily in recent years is due to aircraft size. The HA 763 and NW 753 are a little too big to fill up on a daily basis for this route. I actually think that an AS 737 would be the perfect fit for a daily ANC-HNL flight, especially with the frequent flier base in Anchorage. The only issue might be weight restriction.

Also, if/when AS starts ANC-Hawaii, you can probably say goodbye to the NW flights between ANC-OGG/HNL, unless AS decides to fly on the 4 days per week that NW doesn't do the flight.



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User currently offlineFlybynight From Norway, joined Jul 2003, 1031 posts, RR: 2
Reply 14, posted (9 years 1 week 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 5402 times:

I wish UA would fly SEA - HNL as well. Didn't HA used to fly HNL - ANC?

I would hope AS would start showing movies in coach if they start flying to Hawaii. PTV's would be nice!  stirthepot 



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User currently offlineRwSEA From Netherlands, joined Jan 2005, 3135 posts, RR: 2
Reply 15, posted (9 years 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 5112 times:

Quoting Flybynight (Reply 14):
I would hope AS would start showing movies in coach if they start flying to Hawaii. PTV's would be nice!

Hmm, well the digiplayers are pretty nice. I think I'd take those over PTV's.


User currently offlineChugach From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 1041 posts, RR: 2
Reply 16, posted (9 years 1 week 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 5012 times:

Quoting Flybynight (Reply 14):
Didn't HA used to fly HNL - ANC?

Still do, as a scheduled charter for Hawaiian Vacations. Once a week in summer and twice a week in winter, and more over holiday periods.



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User currently offlineFiedman From Canada, joined Sep 2001, 211 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (9 years 1 week 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 4789 times:

I cant see that as a problem Westjet is starting service to Honolulu and Maui out of YVR this month using there 73NG's and Aloha airlines fly's Honolulu to YVR useing there 737-700's. So I can see Alaska Airlines flying to Hawaii useing there 737-800's out of SEA or KPX.

[Edited 2005-12-13 09:00:21]


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User currently offlineJustplanecrazy From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2003, 536 posts, RR: 2
Reply 18, posted (9 years 1 week 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 4455 times:

What a contrast,freezing in Alaska then 6 hours later sunbathing in Hawaii.In 2003 i was sunbathing in Oahu then 9 hours later i was surrounded by misarable people freezing in Toronto and nearly got killed by an icicle falling from a building.


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User currently offlineS12PPL From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (9 years 1 week 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 3806 times:

Quoting Fiedman (Reply 17):
I cant see that as a problem Westjet is starting service to Honolulu and Maui out of YVR this month using there 73NG's and Aloha airlines fly's Honolulu to YVR useing there 737-700's.

Yes, but I think AQ's flights are severely weight restricted IIRC. A 737-700 with winglets would still be pushing it to make it into Hawaii fully loaded with a full load of fuel.


User currently offlineKiwiandrew From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 8626 posts, RR: 13
Reply 20, posted (9 years 1 week 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 3767 times:
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FJ fly NAN-HNL-YVR with a 73G , the NAN-HNL sector is about 300nm longer than HNL-ANC - and the HNL-YVR is about 60nm less . Can't remember whether FJs a/c are winglet equipped , I think that they are .


edited to add : have looked at photo database - the -800s are wingletted , but not the -700s , I wonder why ?

[Edited 2005-12-13 18:32:33]


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User currently offlineHa763 From United States of America, joined Jan 2003, 3672 posts, RR: 5
Reply 21, posted (9 years 1 week 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 3498 times:
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Quoting Fiedman (Reply 17):
I cant see that as a problem Westjet is starting service to Honolulu and Maui out of YVR this month using there 73NG's and Aloha airlines fly's Honolulu to YVR useing there 737-700's.

West Coast to Hawaii, including YVR, is not a problem for the 737NGs with winglets. However, ANC-Hawaii is a problem due to the winds.

Quoting Kiwiandrew (Reply 20):
FJ fly NAN-HNL-YVR with a 73G

They actually use both the 737-700 and -800 on the route.


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