MAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 33801 posts, RR: 70
Reply 1, posted (9 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 4829 times:
Dallas-Lima is a horrendous performer for AA. Has been for a while now, and its sole purpose is to relieve MIA-LIM of low yielding passengers. Even Miami-Lima is only a so-so performer during the off season.
How this can be attributed to the DAL move is simple: AA needs S80s for DAL from somewhere, and then needs to replace those S80 flights with 757s from somwhere, and that somwhere just happens to be DFW-LIM, which is a poor performing route that uses a 757 that could otherwise be better utilized domesticlly. Now, is AA stretching it by implying that cutting Dallas-Lima is entirely due to the fact of Love Field service? Yes, indeed they are. However, at the same time, it is most likely a contributing factor in some form.
2travel2know From Panama, joined Apr 2005, 3580 posts, RR: 3
Reply 6, posted (9 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 4398 times:
Quoting N1120A (Reply 3): The route is over 2900nm. They have no chance, particularly without winglets.
CM flies EZE-PTY with B737-800 winglets; however they quite often try to restrict the take-off weight @ EZE.
I belive the B737-800 in AA configuration takes less passengers than CM's so probably it really could barely make it LIM-DFW. If it's true, it's up to AA to study if DFW-LIM-DFW with B737-800 wouldn't be a money looser.
Texan From New Zealand, joined Dec 2003, 4305 posts, RR: 51
Reply 8, posted (9 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 4375 times:
AA has needed to cut some of their underperforming routes for a while now. They most likely would have cut the flights sooner, but the addition of Missouri to the Wright-exempt states allowed them to make an excuse as to why the routes were being cut and shift blame. Common tactic that some people will believe and some people will see right through.
"I have always imagined that Paradise will be a kind of library."
NYCAAer From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 693 posts, RR: 3
Reply 9, posted (9 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 4327 times:
The elimination of the 4 daily DFW-LGB flights means that AA will no longer have any service at all to Long Beach. You just know JetBlue will grab those slots if they can, unless AA uses them for something like ORD-LGB.
Laxintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 27191 posts, RR: 50
Reply 16, posted (9 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 3978 times:
DFW-LIM indeed has been on the skids load wise..
In 2004 the route produced the following load factors.
The other DFW-Latin America route that is quite marginal loadwise is the Caracas service which is currently run on a 737-800. With continued political issues, I suppose we should not be to surprised if it were to get axed one day also. I would imagine CO would be carrying the Houston based Citgo traffic, so I dont know if there is enought oil traffic to keep supporting the route.
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A330323X From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 3039 posts, RR: 41
Reply 18, posted (9 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 3939 times:
Shame, 8 months ago, I would've been excited, thought this could be just the opportunity for US to start FLL-LIM. But right now, there's about a 0% chance that the new management will want anything to do with LIM of all markets. Oh well.
I'm the expert on here on two things, neither of which I care about much anymore.