Cragley From Australia, joined Jul 2004, 427 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 2337 times:
The whole Jetstar Intl expansion was a bit of a shock considering that Australian Airlines made a loss for the financial year while Jetstar was profitable. I thought that they would have merged Jetstar and Australian into the 1 entity as they both serve the same market, Leisure.
The other idea is that Jetstar will serve leisure destinations, while Australian Airlines will serve cities that Qantas can not operate profitably to, ex: KUL, ICN bla bla bla.
RichardJF From New Zealand, joined Mar 2001, 792 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 2326 times:
The general idea is that QF realised that expanding Qantas with it's high cost structure was unrealistic especially in lower yielding tourist markets.
So they set up AO. However once they took over Impulse airlines a small Australian domestic carrier they realised it had even lower wages and conditions. So as a way of combating Virgin Blue they set up Jetstar off the Impulse base.
The intention now is to get the Qantas longhaul wages and conditions at the Jetstar International level.
It's likely that once the strategy has played out the Jetstar International brand will get phased out and they'll all be Qantas.
Miami1 From Australia, joined Feb 2001, 706 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 2094 times:
AO pilots are on contract from QF.
The cabin crew EBA is very similar to what is proposed for JQ Int - should it involve Australian based employees. The AO Cabin Crew EBA II is completely bare bones. There is no guarantee that JQ Int will not be crewed by overseas based crew.
JQ domestic pilots have just refused the inital offer from Jetstar to operate International services. It is too low.
I have heard rumour that one plan may be to operate AO in QF colours with Y and Y+. Flights would be Qantas (operated by Australian). Either way Australian operates in a niche market. Their Japan flights are not suited to Jetstar's model.
Simpilicity From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (8 years 10 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 2071 times:
Quoting Miami1 (Reply 6): JQ domestic pilots have just refused the inital offer from Jetstar to operate International services. It is too low.
Yes so the pressure is on to reduce wages !!! Foreign crews for Jetstar Int. would surely be a definite, as I here some Thai crews (not necessarily TG) get 10% of what QF flight attendants get !!! Even putting them up for a night at a cheap 2 or 3 star hotel in Australia would still work out a lot cheaper than Australian crews.