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Official Qantas Order Result - Boeing 115 787s  
User currently offlinePanAm_DC10 From Australia, joined Aug 2000, 4288 posts, RR: 83
Posted (10 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 25068 times:

Just filed with the ASX and it appears Boeing have won

More shortly

[Edited 2005-12-14 04:04:59]

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User currently offlinePanAm_DC10 From Australia, joined Aug 2000, 4288 posts, RR: 83
Reply 1, posted (10 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 25035 times:

Total of 115 787s

Regards, PanAm_DC10

Ask the impossible to achieve the best possible
User currently offlineDrewfly From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 303 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (10 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 24970 times:

They went Boeing!


115 787s!!!

Initially 65 plus 50 options. WOW  Wow!

[Edited 2005-12-14 04:06:08]

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User currently offlineNYC777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 5923 posts, RR: 46
Reply 3, posted (10 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 24851 times:

HOLY SHIT 115!!!!!!

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User currently offlineMGA From Nicaragua, joined Mar 2005, 726 posts, RR: 3
Reply 4, posted (10 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 24848 times:

damn... I was hoping for airbus... congrats for both anyways.


Que viva el guaro, el dinero y los aviones!!!
User currently offlineB2707SST From United States of America, joined Apr 2003, 1386 posts, RR: 58
Reply 5, posted (10 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 24788 times:

Interesting -- no mention at all of the 777, despite Dixon's comments about the importance of ULR hub-busting. Are there any indications whether the 777/A340 decision will be announced today, or has it been postponed?


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User currently offlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 34067 posts, RR: 85
Reply 6, posted (10 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 24787 times:
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Woah! And looks like the 787-9 has been offered, cause that will be some of their options.

[Edited 2005-12-14 04:09:42]

User currently offlineAlitaliaMD11 From Spain, joined Dec 2003, 4068 posts, RR: 12
Reply 7, posted (10 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 24772 times:

Awww Man Sad I was hoping for Airbus...

Well, way to go Boeing!

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User currently offline9V-SPF From Germany, joined Sep 2001, 1375 posts, RR: 3
Reply 8, posted (10 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 24721 times:

Congratulations to Boeing!

115 787s is a huge amount of airplanes...that´s great news for the aviation industry!  Smile

User currently offlineAC787 From Canada, joined Mar 2005, 337 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (10 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 24707 times:

sweet deal... but is there no mention of any 777s?

User currently offlineNYC777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 5923 posts, RR: 46
Reply 10, posted (10 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 24707 times:

I could here a collective DOUH!! from Toulouse!!

[Edited 2005-12-14 04:08:10]

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User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 22176 posts, RR: 59
Reply 11, posted (10 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 24645 times:

Wow. No 773, no 772LR, no 350, no 330, and yet ETOPS not an issue!

Nobody saw this coming, even the biggest Boeing boosters.

And I guess the 65 787s will help pay for the failed 772LR program... as without 773ERs in the fleet, I can't see QF buying the 772LR any time soon. Maybe a future 789LR...

Of all the things to worry about... the Wookie has no pants.
User currently offlineTravelin man From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 3626 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (10 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 24633 times:

I'm also surprised -- no 772LR? No 773ER? I thought those were in the RFP as well?

User currently offlineAtmx2000 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 4576 posts, RR: 36
Reply 13, posted (10 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 24623 times:

Actually, 65 + 50 options. I didn't realize the order was to be this large though.

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User currently offlineStarrion From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1153 posts, RR: 2
Reply 14, posted (10 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 24586 times:

65 orders and 50 options.

No 777's or anything else.

Quite a victory for the 787.

Jetstar to get 4 330's until the deliveries of 10 787's.

Kind of disappointed that they didn't go for any 777's....

But not much.

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User currently offlineSkoorb From Australia, joined Nov 2005, 42 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (10 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 24574 times:

Whoa! This is a bit of a surprise. I really was expecting a few T7s to be in there. I guess excellent news for Boeing and the 787 program though.

pumping up the jam
User currently offlineFriendlySkies From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 4139 posts, RR: 5
Reply 16, posted (10 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 24522 times:

WOW...Boeing just practically made up all of the A350 orders in one shot...WOOOOOO! The corks are flying in Chicago...

User currently offlineMattRB From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 1624 posts, RR: 9
Reply 17, posted (10 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 24520 times:

Very sweet  Smile 65 firm, options on another 50.

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User currently offlineAC787 From Canada, joined Mar 2005, 337 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (10 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 24506 times:

This thread will definetly bring back memories of the incredibly huge AC 787/777 threads  Smile

User currently offlineAC787 From Canada, joined Mar 2005, 337 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (10 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 24425 times:

Anyone wondering where airbus is going to get the orders to reach 200 350's by the end of the year?

[Edited 2005-12-14 04:11:12]

User currently offlineIloveboeing From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 806 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (10 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 24410 times:

Yes! This is awesome! The 787s will make a great addition to Qantas' fleet. I am surprised about the 777s, though. Did they decide not to order them at all?

User currently offlinePHXinterrupted From United States of America, joined Apr 2002, 474 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (10 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 24402 times:

Congrats to Boeing and Qantas!

Keepin' it real.
User currently offlineNYC777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 5923 posts, RR: 46
Reply 22, posted (10 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 24342 times:

The 773ER wasn't part of the RFP. They were pushing for the772LR but perhaps that'll come later. The A350 maybe in serious trouble. They went Boeing all the way.

That which does not kill me makes me stronger.
User currently offlineNirvarma From New Zealand, joined May 2005, 110 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (10 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 24333 times:

WOW unbelievable 115 frames with 65 firm. Congratulations to QF and Boeing. I believe it was mentioned in an earlier thread that the 777/A340 decision/order will be announced early next year?


User currently offlineD L X From United States of America, joined May 1999, 12438 posts, RR: 51
Reply 24, posted (10 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 24310 times:


This is a big shock, no?

To the person that said the 772LR program failed, why do you think that?

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25 NW727251ADV : YAAAAAAAAY! Holy sh**! Wow! That definitely took me for a spin. Truth be told I was kinda hoping Airbus would get some type of A350 order too be it sl
26 Post contains images Anxebla : unbelievable! alucinante! 115 B-787s!!!! AND what about B777-200LR OR A340-500 OR 777-200/300ERs???
27 AeroPiggot : WOW!!!!!, Checkmate! to Airbus, but I am still shock, and no 777LR. I wonder if we should expect additional announcements at a later date?
28 Post contains images Aloha717200 : I would have liked to have seen 777s as well but... Holy shit....what an enourmous win for the 787!!!! I bet Airbus is pissed right now. Imagine if th
29 Airbazar : I guess the writing is on the wall for the 777 program. This ought to confirm that the 787 will pretty much kill the 777 despite the obvious differenc
30 NAV20 : I think orders for other types will 'trickle in' over the next few months. QF had to decide this part quickly to make sure of delivery slots for the 7
31 FDH : Any info about the 787 models? 787-3, 787-8, 787-9 or other? FDH
32 Post contains images FriendlySkies : Well if this doesn't show confidence in the 787 technology, I don't know what will.
33 Drewfly : It's always possible that more was decided today, just to be announced at a later date. Who knows, sometime next year we could see a joint 777LR/747-
34 Post contains links QANTAS077 : http://www.asx.com.au/asxpdf/20051214/pdf/3tqzlqnb15d75.pdf here is the answer about the hub-busters...
35 11Bravo : There was some speculation last week posted on another thread that the 777/340 decision would be made in early 2006. That may be the case, but I thin
36 PanAm_DC10 : No "Hub Buster" Dixon has ruled out the A345 and 772LR as no suitable airplane could be sourced Regards, PanAm_DC10
37 NYC777 : First deliveries to Jetstar in August 2008!!! Mixture of -8 and -9s.
38 Planesarecool : Wow, this threads been up about 15mins and already 30+ replies. Well done to Boeing!
39 C680 : First Grey's Anatomy and now THIS! Seattle is getting to be a very hip place. Merry Christmas Boeing![Edited 2005-12-14 04:19:00]
40 NYC777 : So they aren't going for the 772LR at all?
41 Starrion : The 777 that got 120+ orders this year? Dead? I don't think so. QF will be back for 777's soon. But 115 787's is very, very nice.
42 Atnight : Well, if this orders get firmed up before Dec 31st (which more than likely will), it makes it clear without a doubt that this year's top orders go to
43 Stitch : The 772LR and 773ER are in different leagues then the 787, so I don't see either program being "killed". Especially as they are still winning orders
44 Iloveboeing : Me too! I'm so excited now! I can imagine the parties that are going on at HQ in Chicago and in Everett right now! Congratulations Boeing!
45 Ken777 : It's an outstanding order after a fiercely competitive battle. Both A & B went after the order and the B win shows again that they finally have their
46 Atmx2000 : Um. a bit early to call it failed. I expect when all is said and done the 772LR will sell as well as the 772A. And let's not forget that having the 7
47 Post contains images Nudelhirsch : Holy Cow, the Boeing HQ is 2-3 miles away but I can hear the corks pop... Congrats, what a deal... So, including all options, the count is at 300 now.
48 Daus : Given the two press releases it's clear to me Qantas thinks the only viable 'Buster' will be an extension of the 787 line somewhere down the road.
49 N79969 : Holy S%#t. What a resounding endorsement of the B787...not only did they pick it...they bought 1.5 years worth of production (my guess). I wonder if t
50 Anxebla : That is a totally surprise, indeed. I believe QF could ask for other A345/346 or 772LR, 772ER/773ER
51 NW727251ADV : You must not have read the ATW article. The order is for a MIX of the 787-8 & 787-9.
52 Lufthansa : Guys QF was never going to order the 777.... they would have done it buy now if it was going to happen. It is just an A/C they don't seem to be intere
53 DLKAPA : There's a long list of interest in the 787, so it would be wise to go ahead and secure your place in line if you're going for the type. That being sai
54 UALMMFlyer : Congratulations to Boeing!!! A few thoughts: 1. It will be interesting to learn the discount QF has received for placing the largest 787 to date; 2. I
55 B2707SST : Could this decision have been responsible for the delay? It seems like Dixon was touting the benefits of hub-busting only a few weeks ago. Congratula
56 Simpilicity : What's the absoluet maximum range out 787 especially if they were light on with pax, ie. business class config.?
57 Post contains images Aileron11 : Go Boeing very happy for them. Airbus is going to be sweating. Also, I know what I am doing tomorrow! Buying Boeing stock.
58 BWIA 772 : Yippeeeeee Yipeeeeeee This makes me forget about the stupid exam i had today wow this is great for the 787 programme.
59 Post contains links Drewfly : http://quote.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=10000006&sid=adOXL8A.MP9A This is huge.
60 Luisca : So the deliveries in 2008, does this mean that Qantas was saving slots or does it mean that Boeing will open up the rumored second production line?
61 TPASXM787 : congrats to boeing...glad to see a positive for a US company with all the issues with the auto and airline industry. break out the bubbly!
62 Anxebla : good question!
63 C680 : Is 65 frames the single largest firm order for 787?
64 N1120A : Boeing is now stating an intended range of 8600-8900nm for the 789, which comes rather close to the 772LR and allows a good deal of hub busting.
65 Luisca : For those who are saying that the 777 is dead, this is just flaimbait, the 777 has outsold this year the A340 by a huge margin, they continue to gain
66 QF744 : This is seriously huge.. With no 777s, it means QF may look to acquire more 744s second hand? QF744
67 N1120A : Yes I would think that a 748 order would be in the future. BTW, are these Trent 1000 or GEnx powered?
68 Zvezda : I believe 65 is a new record for the largest number of widebodies of a single type ordered in a single tranche. Has any airline ever placed an order f
69 Stitch : I believe so. NH was 50 frames to launch.
70 Iloveboeing : Hopefully they will. Boeing cannot let the 787 be "sold out." They need to accomodate as much demand as possible. It cannot be allowed to come to the
71 Post contains links Ikramerica : Hmmm, 787-9 is now "officially" 10 seats larger than before, at "300 seats" and "50 seats" more than the 788? http://www.airliners.net/discussions...g
72 QANTAS077 : the only replacement for a 747 is a 747...i'd say we'll see the 747 Advanced sometime in the future wearing Qantas colours.
73 Atmx2000 : Competition for engines starts next year. QR's A350 was the previous record I believe.
74 FriendlySkies : I believe Boeing will keep working on the 772LR to get the range up to what QF wants...no doubt that they can do it. There will be a 773ER/747-8 flyin
75 UALMMFlyer : Didn't SQ order 77 B777 in 1995? I think it included both options and firm orders. I think you are right about this order being the biggest.[Edited 2
76 N1120A : I think Boeing is starting to aggressively market the 9 abreast 787 Boeing has space for another line.
77 Beno : From QF website:
78 FriendlySkies : Says in the PR that engine selection will take place in 2006.
79 Glennstewart : It would make sense to open a 787 production line in China, for the Chinese airlines.
80 NAV20 : I'm feeling a certain pride. This is certainly 'the Australian way' at its best - make your mind up and go for broke..... Doesn't always happen that w
81 Jet-lagged : The 787 is just amazing. Congrats to B&Q. I think the comment in their press release about the larger windows and higher cabin pressure is notable. I'
82 DL021 : Tremendous. Boeing's team deserves a huge pat on the back, and maybe a bonus. It looks like Everett is really going to be a very busy place for the ne
83 Lufthansa : Hello Americans, come and look at all our nice shiny new jets.... At this rate, we're better customers for your jets than your own airlines.
84 N1120A : Saw that now, thanks
85 Post contains images LFutia : Congratulations Qantas and Boeing!!! hmm now hopefully in 2010 or so we'll see Qantas flying to Chicago Leo
86 Drewfly : I remember reading in a past thread that there is a limit to how many fuselage sections the Italian factory can turn out every month. I believe it wa
87 Daus : In the long term strategic chess match, I would imagine this takes the 787 program to break even. Leaving Boeing with only two relatively small R&D co
88 2H4 : No mention of it yet on Boeing's website. 2H4
89 C680 : This is a MUCH bigger deal than anyone has been willing to admit. Several studies by Gulfstream have shown a significant physiological benefits from
90 Zvezda : The B787 is not strictly a double-bubble, but a much more complex ovoid shape.
91 Iloveboeing : Yes, a 777LR and 747-8I order would work really well, especially since they both have commonality with the 787.
92 Zvezda : My recollection is 7 per month.
93 BladeLWS : Boeing just took Airbus to the woodshed and gave them a whoopin!
94 Post contains links and images Halibut : HOLLY COW ! Awesome . A grand slam for Team Boeing ! http://today.reuters.com/business/ne...s&storyID=nSYA002122&imageid=&cap= SYDNEY, Dec 14 (Reuters
95 N328KF : The Chinese airlines only comprise 60 orders (to date), and there's no way Boeing would open a 787 production line in China. Airbus would not do the
96 Atnight : One question, QF can just sign the order without having to select engines, right? So when will the actual signing take place? Will this count as a 200
97 Post contains links SFORunner : "The airline said it had sought tenders from Airbus and Boeing on ultra-long range variants, but had been unable to find an aircraft that could operat
98 CTHEWORLD : If you search on Google for "French Military Victories" with the "I'm feeling lucky" button you get some interesting results, I wonder if you get a s
99 6thfreedom : Qantas orders 65 + 50 aircraft and everyone is clapping... EK or QR do the same, and there's a sh&t fight about who is funding what! Either way, Well
100 Radelow : I am very excited for Boeing on this. But now comes crunch time. Boeing needs to deliver the plane: 1. On Time 2. On Budget 3. On Spec I have no doubt
101 Zvezda : The B787's bleedless systems enable a common interface for the engines, so one does not need to specify an engine type to firmly specify the airplane
102 Wingman : The comment by Lufthansa is interesting in that there is simply no way now that either UA or AA will get ANY 787 slots before 2010 or beyond. These tw
103 Post contains images Drewfly : Nothing on the Boeing website yet. Then again, with the amount of champagne that will be consumed tonight at their HQ's, they may want to leave that t
104 Post contains images Islandboy : For now yes. Can you imagine when AA and DL order it Congratz to Boeing btw. I still think a 777LR order is envitable if they plan on doing LHR-SYD n
105 Anxebla : QF need an aircraft between the B-787s and the A-380s. I think this matter is logical as there is a massive hole in the middle
106 RichardJF : Not necessarily
107 Post contains links B2707SST : Flight International reported 10 per month in October: http://www.flightinternational.com/A...n+787+at+new+fuselage+factory.html If Alenia turns out
108 Post contains images Jet-lagged : Haha. Not only that, but we'll have to fly on *your* airlines to enjoy those nice, shiny, comfortables jet.
109 SWISSER : Congrats to Boeing! So no 772LR? very strange... Yes, you' re right! I guess it's like reserving a table in a 3 star michelin restaurant right now! An
110 Ikramerica : Because QF was a target customer. They passed and this statement: Shows that they are not looking to this plane in the future. That's why I said a 78
111 C680 : Amen. Although we get into the finer points of American vs. European accounting rules, and accepted practices, very quickly here. Culturally, I think
112 PHXinterrupted : That's fine, because the United States is your biggest market.
113 N1120A : Well, it looks like a press screw up seeing as they seem to imply the 788 has 300 seats and the 789 50 more
114 Zvezda : No, a HGW version of the B787-8 might be able to fly SYD-LHR. If so, the economics would be a lot better. I would rather spend 20 hours in a B787 tha
115 N79969 : As sweet as the news is for Boeing, the pressure is really on that they get it right on the 787 with all of its new technology. I also have wondered
116 Post contains images Lightsaber : Man, I can't wait to read Randy's blog! Wow! Early slots! They better open that 2nd line. I'm going to agree. Did anyone notice the anouncement for t
117 Post contains images MarshalN : Yup, a great win, and seems like everyone likes what they've been seeing. Now, it's time for us to see the real deal and let the little paper plane f
118 Post contains images DAYflyer : Airbus HQ: Boeing HQ:
119 NAV20 : Interesting that Dixon identified a need for bigger savings on trip time, as well as adequate payload, in the 'hub-busting' area. I wonder if someone
120 StuckInCA : Thank you for your order. Please come again. Valid point. I think knowledgeable people might be able to point out differences between those carriers,
121 Antares : A terrific result for shareholders. Would sure make me think twice about a long haul Pacific Blue operation unless you could launch one really fast wi
122 AirFrnt : Yep, but hey, It won't always be like that.
123 DAYflyer : I wonder how Airbus is going to do the "PR tap dance" around this huge loss. I see it as far more damaging to the A-350 program than the NW and AC ord
124 RichardJF : 787 perfect plane for Qantas mate. They can't go wrong with 787's
125 Post contains images Lightsaber : Has anyone else noticed the dearth of 783 orders? It seems the 788 and now 789 will steal the show. you have a point there... Perhaps that supersized
126 Andaman : ..."joke of an order"...? Finnair is a smaller company than Qantas if you haven't notised.
127 Jaysit : Kind of puts those mega Emirates offers in perspective, doesn't it?
128 SpeckSpot : Congratulations Boeing!!!! This is amazing and awesome. Have to say I'm disappointed the 772LR didn't get orders. But I agree that a future 788LR or 7
129 D L X : Ahh the benefits of a common connection design.
130 Post contains links Halibut : http://quote.bloomberg.com/apps/news...000006&sid=apqj_bNzChnY&refer=home Qantas said it chose Boeing planes because they could fly further with a ful
131 BWIA 772 : So with this order what price will the Boeing stock reach? This year has been wonderful for Boeing, one would have thought that this would have been A
132 ER757 : Pretty amazing how aircraft manufacturers' fortunes change, isn't it? A couple years ago, many were writing Boeing's epitaph, now the concern is that
133 Luisca : I really thought that QF would order 783 for citylink. Anyway, the 783 really a niche aircraft and I am sure that ANA and JAL alone will bring it to
134 MarshalN : I would think most of this is already priced into Boeing's stock price.
135 Ikramerica : Why not open a second line in Australia? Considering QF and possibly/probably SQ will make up a big chunk, and NZ and EK and carriers in China and In
136 BA : This is excellent news and I'm especially glad they ordered the 787-9! Can't wait to see the first flight...
137 Post contains images Daus : True, and given what this is all really about is making money (not just order counts) it would be great to see Boeing attack the production process i
138 Atmx2000 : It has 28 firm orders, most of which were booked this year. There are two customers who have yet to book their orders. That doesn't sound dead to me.
139 Post contains links B2707SST : I think you may be reading too much into one ambiguous line from the press release ("The Boeing 787 is ideal for operating to Asia, as well as the US
140 DL021 : I'm not questioning Emirates business philosophy, I'm just wondering if the developing markets can support Emirates, Etihad, Qatar as well as the new
141 BlatantEcho : holy hell, that's a lot of carbon fiber glad to hear it! (788, 748 A388 - stupid marketers)
142 Post contains images BlueSky1976 : Congratulations to Boeing and Qantas. Can't wait for the pictures of my new favourite widebody in their colours. I have to express my dissappointment
143 Commavia : Ouch! You know that's got to hurt for Airbus!
144 Post contains images NW727251ADV : I'm sorry mary sunshine but I dont know what "notiSed" means.
145 MidnightMike : The 777ULR has the range, probably just not enough seats......
146 Post contains images Halibut : Merry Christmas Boeing fans !
147 Dougloid : The open question for me will be if they can translate and scale up the composite technology in a cost effective, safe and durable fashion. If it succ
148 AA777 : Woo hoo! This is fantastic news for Boeing, the 787 Program, and for Qantas of course! I really REALLY would have liked to see some 777's. But who kno
149 N200WN : And for that, we thank you!
150 IRelayer : Holy crap! That is a HUGE widebody order. What is Qantas going to do with all that metal? Congrats to Boeing this is big... -IR
151 Post contains links B2707SST : The Seattle Times has a quote that makes me wonder if the contest was all that close: Airbus and Boeing have battled for this order for months, with c
152 RedFlyer : What is up with that? I thought this was going to be the launch of the 777ULR globe buster? Have they given up on their Holy Grail route?
153 Gatorman96 : This question comes from lack of knowledge (which is why I am asking), so don't blow me up if it turns out to be a dumb question...But if Boeing decid
154 Shenzhen : From my understanding, the Boeing proposal was "without" engines. Cheers
155 BigB : There is a big difference here. EK and QR are airlines that not only gonna place big orders for the 787/350, but they also place big orders for the A
156 Bill142 : Interestingly, it should be noted, that 12 months ago Qantas said they weren't interested in the then 7e7. Yet they have the largest order to date.
157 N79969 : I wonder how Foergard and Leahy (as well as Sabenapilot and Keesje) will spin this order.
158 Lufthansa : Now that we've bought this jet, Does anybody know if it is going to be 8 abreast in Economy or 7 abreast like the 767? There is nothing on the boeing
159 Post contains images Sonic67 : WOW way to go Boeing. How many total 787 Does that make?
160 Post contains links RedFlyer : The Seattle-Post Intelligencer article at: http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/htm...nology/2002682245_webboeing13.html Quotes as follows: At the same t
161 AirFrnt : Yep. At the end of the day it appears to have been mostly about getting the best negotiated deal. That should shock no one. Some interesting quotes,
162 Post contains images Longhaulheavy : Fewer planes, better quality? Merry Christmas, Boeing!!
163 Ikramerica : It is designed for Japan, and they have orders and options. AA could also use it to replace the A300 in the US, and that order wouldn't come for a fe
164 Post contains images Yanksn4 : Like the song says... CELEBRATE GOOD TIMES, C'MON. Congrats Boeing. I can see it now, LA 20x a day. JK. Although, kind of was hoping for the 772LR ord
165 StuckInCA : Hahahah. Funny statement if you think about it. And not much thinking required. No excuse for that. Boeing salespeople should be more than capable of
166 Gorbidog : That's a most impressive order by Qantas, clearly a great day for Boeing and a significant disappointment for Airbus' new programme. It is unfortunate
167 NAV20 : Agree entirely that new technology can be 'edgy', Dougloid. But testing procedures are more advanced nowadays. Everyone knows that De Havilland found
168 Pilotdude09 : Qantas Fleet Decision To Benefit Australia Sydney, 14 December 2005 Qantas said today that its selection of the Boeing 787 would provide substantial e
169 Kaitak : It's certainly great news for Boeing (and the 787), although - as several others have pointed out - it's a surprise that no 777s were included. I thin
170 S12PPL : Very cool!! Nice to see Qantas go Boeing!!! Maybe later the 777-200LR order is coming later??
171 Post contains images Ikramerica : Hmmm, what will they do? 65 are for fleet renewal. They will dump 767s, 330s, 743s. 50 options are for growth. New routes, JetStar, etc. I mean, it s
172 Post contains links B2707SST : Boeing's baseline configurations on the 777 and 787 are virtually identical, certainly as close as you will ever find on two aircraft families: - The
173 MD90fan : Will JetStar take delivery of some of QF's 787's?
174 Planemanofnz : Yay I cannot wait to fly this new and awesome plane across the tasman soon. I hope QF's decision to buy boeing might influence EI to go for the 787 as
175 Post contains images Lightsaber : True. It means the engine battle for this order will be a biggie. Agreed. Sorry, didn't mean that, just that the orders seem, sparse. Perhaps its jus
176 Post contains links SunriseValley : I don't see that -200LR as dead. I believe we will see -200ER operators buying it as they need additional units since it has a break even with the -20
177 Post contains links SFORunner : http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/htm...nology/2002682245_webboeing13.html And Dixon said the carrier will decide later on its large aircraft needs, ch
178 StickShaker : While QF's massive order for 787's is a (well deserved) big win for Boeing it also represents a watershed for Australian commercial aviation. QF may h
179 Planemanofnz : That airline wouldn't happen to be Aer Lingus would it now?
180 SLUAviator : GREAT NEWS ANYWAY YOU LOOK AT IT!!! That is working on the assumption that AA and UA have not quietly secured delivery slots already. Not saying its t
181 Post contains images Andaman : That's Finglish
182 Centrair : If there was a production problem for the fuselage sections could some of the Japanese sub contracts take it up? They are doing the wing box and some
183 PanAm_DC10 : Boeing let the customer announce the order. SEATTLE, Dec. 14 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- The Boeing Company (NYSE: BA) and Qantas announced today that
184 AJRfromSYR : Assuming Boeing gave Qantas the 787's at 100mil a piece. If Airbus sweeps the jumbo order how many would they need to reach the 11.5bil sale price of
185 Atmx2000 : The 777 is considerably wider inside, by at least 16 inches, which almost one seat's width. And because of the wider diameter, it doesn't need to hav
186 Post contains links Halibut : Agreed , However, something tells me they'll stay with Boeing . Boeing 747-8 To Eat Into A380 Sales 1 To 1 Basis.? (by Halibut Dec 14 2005 in Civil A
187 Post contains images Nimish : They really need to
188 Atmx2000 : So this order is just 45 firm then. What exactly is a purchase right? An outright limit on how many you can buy?
189 Gkpetery : Merry Christmas Boeing!!! WOW! I knew it would be the Dreamliner!
190 Theredbaron : 1) Congratulations Boeing ! 2) A surprise that for the Aussies the 777 is a dead horse, I never expected this, I was counting on 2 dozen T7 a least, b
191 GARPD : I'm gob smacked. I truly thought the A330/A350/A340 combination was going to get this. Interesting that the order is solely for the 787. I was expecti
192 Toulouse : All I can say is wow! I eagerly connected this morning, and given my user name as the place I line in, well I was hoping Airbus would get this, but ne
193 United Airline : I suppose we will see 3 fleet types in QF's fleet in the long run. They are: B787, B747 and A 380. The B 747-300s will likely stay for another 6-8 yea
194 PanAm_DC10 : Atmx2000 IIRC a Purchase Right secures a set price for a future delivery. So unlike an option, which usually has a delivery date and nominal deposit
195 Columba : Wow, that is a slap in the face for Airbus. Congrats to all the people at Boeing for that really huge order. They will have a merry christmas.
196 Post contains images Aither : Congrats to Boeing I expect most will be operated from the booming Asian countries to bring tourists to Australia.
197 Halophila : Congrats QF and Boeing! I look forward to flying the dreamliner when they come online. I do certainly hope they start flying to other cities in europe
198 Jetman41 : Hopefully we will see an order twice as big from BA early next year with Boeing.777LR,787 and 747-800 all hot favourites. Jetman41.
199 Post contains links Keesje : Congratulations to Boeing! One Dixon statement carefully ignored even after 200 replies: Dixon said there were several factors that persuaded the Qant
200 Sydscott : Great news for Boeing and QF, bad news for the A350 program. This is a very interesting decision in that; 1. The proponents of "hub" busting route dev
201 Onedude : Does anyone think that if Airbus delay the A380 deliveries again that QF might drop it and just take some extra 744 variants until the 748 is availab
202 Iwok : It ain't over yet. We still have BA, SQ and LH up for grabs, not to mention some US carriers in the future. The 350 will plug along just fine, especia
203 Sq212 : Congratulations: Boeing and Qantas! Another series of recent huge wins for Boeing that is crushing Airbus in sales of widebody jets. Cheers
204 AC777LR : I hope RR gets the Engine order, I am not sure if they have picked one or not yet though!!!
205 Aither : For sure it would have been an Airbus order the main discussion would have been around pricing and the way Airbus is just a subsidized company. But h
206 Matt27 : Congratulations Boeing and Qantas!
207 Leskova : While I was hoping for an A350 order, the huge size alone of this order simply only permits one comment: Congratulations Qantas, Congratulations Boein
208 UAL777UK : If Airbus do not get a significant order for the 350 from a top tier airline (SQ), then heads will role and the whole production of this aircraft wil
209 Post contains images BoogyJay : Exactly, you can bet your bottom a$$ that it'd have come up right at post numero UNO if QF would have ordered 100+ A350s, with wild guesses like "Sur
210 Manni : Someone said in a different thread, about the upcoming order, that Airbus had offered the A350 for a price similar to the list price of a A320. Wich
211 Columba : Don´t forget Air France who is a likely customer of the A350. LH will likely choose both the A350 and 787. Agreed, but as you said the slap in the f
212 Post contains images Rpaillard : Congratulations Boeing! Congratulation United States! Now, it's time to produce! Just hope that everything will be fine with no major problem and/or d
213 WINGS : WOW is what I have to say. Congratulations to both Qantas and Boeing. Am sure that this order was fought to the last minute. But in the end the best a
214 Antares : The thing that also impresses me with this order is that Qantas gets 28 787 before Airbus could have delivered few if any A350s. I had not realised th
215 NA : I don´t know for what anybody is congratulating Airbus here. That in the end Boeing had to lower the price so much that Airbus couldn´t follow anymo
216 Post contains links JeffSFO : Qantas posted this about the order on their web site: http://www.qantas.com.au/info/boeing787?lk=prau Seems like it's the same press release as others
217 SFORunner : I wonder if, before handing over the prototype 777-200LR to PK, Boeing will do SYD - LHR with a simulated passenger + cargo load and the additional t
218 Post contains images TheSilverBirds : Or perhaps B6?..... Just kidding!
219 Post contains images NAV20 : Agree, Antares - until today, I would have said that no-one who hadn't placed firm orders years back could have got hold of any 787s for 2008 deliver
220 Gemuser : Disagree The older half of the 744 fleet will be replaced by the already ordered A380(24 orders/options). That only leaves the 6 744ERs which are les
221 AirbusA6 : Wow, a very impressive order. A couple of thoughts. Qantas clearly see the 787 performing several roles, and don't see the 772LR as an useful addition
222 Leelaw : Seems as though Boeing plans to deliver token numbers of 788s in 2008 to a large number of the 25 customers.
223 Knoxibus : This is extremely good news for all, congrats to all involved, apart for the guys in Toulouse. Personally I am happy because this could trigger some s
224 Post contains images Astuteman : Couple of thoughts from me. Firstly - congratulations to the 787 and Boeing. I'm a fan of Airbus in general, but to me this is a vindication of the co
225 Leskova : I really doubt that - Boeing will have delivered all possible data to QF to get them on board, and QF will have taken more than just a glance at thos
226 Post contains links Aussie747 : Theres some nice photos of JetStar and Qantas in 787 colours in this link http://www.vpmag.com/yssy/viewtopic....&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=15
227 Post contains images Leelaw : It's not a secret anymore!
228 Post contains images Columba : Good point that I never thought of, maybe Qantas and LH will be on ofthe first customers for the 747-8I. No way, they go for the A350 Absolutely agre
229 Windshear : Guys don't you think the T7 orders are yet to be announced? This order will replace their 67 and 330 fleet, they were in talks with both for a larger
230 BestWestern : Exactly - a suberb well thought out aircraft that fills many market sectors. Congratulations. I do hope that EI follow suit. The 200LR for Qantas is
231 Joni : I didn't know this was going on, but it does perhaps help explain why Boeing won the order - similar to how Finnish industry contributing to Airbus p
232 Kangar : This will be an interesting case in the genesis of the 787 when EOS comes up on the horizon. With the 777-200ER, Boeing was last to market and had com
233 Post contains links Kiwiandrew : actually they have ordered 45 + 20 options + 50 'purchase rights' according to the Seattle Times http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/htm...echnology/200
234 Post contains images Mrocktor : I'm quite sure they'd go for the best plane, if they went at all... Else we would all be talking about their A318s mrocktor
235 Post contains links Columba : No, according to the Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung the A340 and 777 are out of the picture because both airplanes would not have been an economical
236 Leelaw : WSJ 12/14/05 Qantas to Order Jets From Boeing In Blow to Airbus: "...In addition to the midsize jets, Qantas is in the market for ultralong-haul airpl
237 Post contains images PanAm_DC10 : You both forgot one thing. QR. They placed refundable deposits on 10 787s which included 4 for 2008 delivery. Ever since they went with the A350 no 7
238 Post contains images Glideslope : First quarter of 2006. Mr. Leahy and Noel's days are numbered. Boeing should offer John a position pitching the C-17.
239 Leelaw : PanAm DC-10: What is the status of the Primaris order? Having made an early announcement are/were any 2008 delivery slots allocated to them?
240 PanAm_DC10 : Most definately sir, source Bloomberg; ``There was nothing in the price between the two manufacturers,'' Qantas Chief Financial Officer Peter Gregg s
241 Zvezda : Most likely not. The B787-10X will have no direct effect on the A350-800, but will compete (from a slightly larger capacity) with the A350-900. It wi
242 Post contains links Leelaw : Here's a link to Mr. Dixon's statement on Hub-Busters: http://www.qantas.com.au/regions/dyn.../details?ArticleID=2005/dec05/3370
243 Post contains links BNE : Maybe time to put this to bed, and to move on to part 2. QF Orders 115 B787s (part 2) (by 777ER Dec 14 2005 in Civil Aviation)
244 9MMPD : Congrats to Boeing and Qantas I am suprised that no 777s were ordered but who knows maybe one day QF might order a batch of 773ERs to replace some of
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