Simpilicity From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 7, posted (8 years 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 4418 times:
Quoting Lazybones (Reply 6): Are these A330 for JetStar coming from the Qantas fleet??
I don't think news release said ? They have some more due soon I think ?
Does anyone know for sure?
Perhaps they're new ones, so could come direct from factory with 363 or more seats. Canada 3000 had a very clever layout with toilets hidden away near exits & no bukheads with galleys at front & back only. Weird when u 1st got on one of 2T's 332's & from front door could see every seat on aircraft.
Some clever layout is what's needed here, with small galleys !!!
Boeing744 From Canada, joined Jun 2005, 1804 posts, RR: 24 Reply 12, posted (8 years 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 4230 times:
Quoting Lazybones (Reply 6): 9 Abreast in a A330, AirTransat should change their name to "DVT Air".
Oh yes... I have flown TS (332) on a 5 hr. flight and it was absolutely horrible. The seat pitch sucked too. I certainly hope Jetstar does not decide to use this configuration in their new aircraft.
An interesting note on the state of TS's Y seating (although off topic)... Lufthansa is not known for having a lot of space in Y on their 744's. But, TS crams more people in Y into a A332, then LH puts (in Y) in a 744. This applies to every configuration LH has.
Simpilicity From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 13, posted (8 years 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 4221 times:
Quoting Boeing744 (Reply 13): Oh yes... I have flown TS (332) on a 5 hr. flight and it was absolutely horrible. The seat pitch sucked too. I certainly hope Jetstar does not decide to use this configuration in their new aircraft.
But you knew this before you flew or didn't you check their website OR ask someone.
Anyway, I think you're all missing the point !!!
By putting max seating on board, they can lower the fares to point where those who would not otherwise fly overseas, do, like how DJ & JQ have increased domestic flying.
A really smart option, would possibly be to have say 2 classes within Y, ie. maybe have 3-3-3 seating at back & 2-4-2 seating at front with slightly more seat pitch. A bit like the Blue Zone on DJ or economy plus on UA or various airlines these days.
Simpilicity From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 20, posted (8 years 23 hours ago) and read 3787 times:
Quoting EGNR (Reply 17): Monarch Airlines fly two A330-200s with 374 seats in a two class configuration
Wow 374 in 2 classes (3-3-3 in Y & 2-4-2 in premium - must have an extra mm. of leg room)
seating capacity 374 seats in two classes:
51 in Premium Cabin
323 in the main cabin
Why on earth would anyone think that Jetstar INT would go any less than this?
It's not SQ business class, it budget city, with no included drinks or food !!! (still can't believe they would think they cn get away with no drinks/food on a 10 hour flight !!! )
The guy who runs Jetstar now used to work for Ryanair, the incredibly successful airline, who are doing away with window shades, seat back pockets & reclining seats. Maybe he might jam a few more seats in the ceiling like some new business class products !!! (not as silly as it sounds, but would that increase maximum seating capacity ???
A360 From Portugal, joined Jun 2005, 434 posts, RR: 9 Reply 21, posted (8 years 20 hours ago) and read 3696 times:
Quoting Simpilicity (Reply 20): Maybe he might jam a few more seats in the ceiling like some new business class products !!! (not as silly as it sounds, but would that increase maximum seating capacity ???
Business class in the ceiling?!
Maybe you are refering to the 777 crew rest areas on top of the cabin... but that's not revenue seats... for crew use only.
Aussie_ From Australia, joined Dec 2000, 1766 posts, RR: 5 Reply 24, posted (8 years 14 hours ago) and read 3547 times:
Media today is saying Jetstar will go head to head with Qantas mainline to the USA as part of a strategy to avoid competition on the pacific route...
Thurs "Sydney Morning Herald"
Qantas signals Pacific fare war . . . with itself
By Clive Dorman and Rod Myer
December 15, 2005
QANTAS yesterday vowed to slash fares to the United States, announcing the planned expansion of its budget carrier Jetstar to US routes and a massive $10 billion investment in 65 new-generation Boeing 787 Dreamliner aircraft from 2008.
The move will add to the political pressure on the Howard Government to keep Singapore Airlines locked out of the lucrative Pacific routes and is designed to deflect one of main arguments for exposing Qantas to more competition over the Pacific — that the airline has been charging excessive fares to Los Angeles and San Francisco.
By launching discount flights to North America, Qantas is also trying to head off moves by its domestic competitor, Virgin Blue, to fly to Los Angeles.
Singapore Airlines has been lobbying the Federal Government for permission to fly the Sydney-Los Angeles route, one of the most lucrative in the world, because Qantas currently faces competition from only one carrier, a weakened United Airlines trading under bankruptcy protection.
Qantas chief executive Geoff Dixon said Jetstar would line up against its parent airline on US routes "in the immediate future " — well before the introduction of the new planes. The 787s will revolutionise the economics of the airline, allowing it to operate more direct services to Asia and North America.
25 Simpilicity: This probably therefore means using HNL as a hub, (as high density A332's won't make west coast even from BNE) BUT would have to codeshare with AA ov
26 Miami1: The 330s will be configured indentical to QF domestic configuration. 7 abreast in Y+ with 38" pitch and 8 abreast in Y with 31" pitch. QantasLink hav
27 FCKC: Any idea , when will these A330s for Jetstar come from ? Qantas ? ILFC ? Others ?
28 ClassicLover: Qantas! The current 4 A332s are being transferred, and apparently a couple of the new 333s will be sent to Jetstar until the 787s arrive. Once the 78
29 Pilotdude09: Sydneys not that bad to transit domestically, you get to drive accross the airport and drive right next to 744s Dont tell jetstar that!, next they wi
30 ClassicLover: 743s won't go to Jetstar, due to the operating costs of the aircraft. They are three cockpit crew analog machines, meaning they'd have to use existin
31 Simpilicity: Why would they do it this way? Certainly not the Jetstar way. By going 3-3-3 in Y they can get an extra 40 or so seats, by cutting aisle down & seat
32 ANstar: You will be able to get food and drinks, but you will need to pay for it (at this stage, but I expect that to change) Not sure where you;ve been, but
33 Simpilicity: Who loves UA ? Not us !!! But if they don't get their act together, we have QF or JQ Int, as the only options to North America from Australia, which
34 Gigneil: QF's 332s are the lowest gross weight available, and powered by the weakest engine option available. Changes will need to be made. N
35 6thfreedom: Because if they launch services early 2007, and B787 deliveries commence 2008, it may not be cost effective to start changing the config. It may also