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J1 Shortage At LHR  
User currently offlineOneworld1 From Mauritius, joined Dec 2005, 108 posts, RR: 0
Posted (8 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 2275 times:

Am I right when I hear that there is a shortage of j1 in lhr due to fire last weekend? based aircraft are to tanker and non based may have to techstop enroute to/from lhr?

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User currently offlineTristarSteve From Sweden, joined Nov 2005, 4009 posts, RR: 33
Reply 1, posted (8 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 2173 times:

Yes all aircraft are arriving with as much fuel as possible.

User currently offlineMhodgson From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2002, 5047 posts, RR: 25
Reply 2, posted (8 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 2140 times:

I think it is currently being tankered in from the Southampton Fawley refinery, though the supply is nowhere near as fast as it was.


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User currently offlineTristarSteve From Sweden, joined Nov 2005, 4009 posts, RR: 33
Reply 3, posted (8 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 2135 times:

A very detailed notam has been issued giving airlines details of how much fuel they can have.

User currently offlineRick767 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2000, 2662 posts, RR: 51
Reply 4, posted (8 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 2063 times:

Already longhaul non-based carriers are having to do fuel stops on outbound flights from LHR.

CX stopping at AMS enroute to HKG
QF stopping at STN enroute to SIN/BKK-SYD

BA seem to be doing ok with their higher fuel allowance combined with tankering as much as they can from abroad.



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User currently offlinePilot kaz From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (8 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 2049 times:

Quoting Oneworld1 (Thread starter):
Am I right when I hear that there is a shortage of j1 in lhr due to fire last weekend? based aircraft are to tanker and non based may have to techstop enroute to/from lhr?

I Live a mile from the Depot... There was fears on Monday Night of a further explosion from another which apparently contained Kerosene...


User currently offlineCandid76 From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2005, 735 posts, RR: 4
Reply 6, posted (8 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 1996 times:

I'm sure we can spare some fuel and apron space here at MAN!

User currently offlineCloudyapple From Hong Kong, joined Jul 2005, 2454 posts, RR: 9
Reply 7, posted (8 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 1971 times:

Quoting Candid76 (Reply 6):
I'm sure we can spare some fuel and apron space here at MAN!

Fuel perhaps, concrete no.



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User currently offlineCandid76 From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2005, 735 posts, RR: 4
Reply 8, posted (8 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 1920 times:

Quoting Cloudyapple (Reply 7):
Fuel perhaps, concrete no.

We've just opened a nice new apron with widebody stands which are ready and waiting. However unless the fuel reserves at LHR become further depleted I imagine the vast majority of operators will cope. Where the whole situation will come unstuck is when LHR gets bad weather, as there certainly won't be enough fuel for aircraft to burn it off in holding patterns. So expect lots of diversions if this happens, hopefully to MAN!


User currently offlineAirbuseric From Netherlands, joined Jan 2005, 4269 posts, RR: 51
Reply 9, posted (8 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 1887 times:

JL will send several pax flights via CDG either AMS, also their cargo flight will be fuelstopping at AMS until half of next week ! Busy times for me now Big grin

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Eric



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User currently offlineCKT789 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (8 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 1874 times:

That depot fed LTN didn't it? How is that airport coping?

Jamie.


User currently offlineRick767 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2000, 2662 posts, RR: 51
Reply 11, posted (8 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 1801 times:

LTN was supplied by this site yes, but I don't know what proportion of their total supply it represented.

They have obviously not had a problem getting alternate supplies as there are no fuel shortages reported there that I know of.

The Heathrow NOTAM about the situation estimates the Fuel Contingency Plan may be in force there until the end of the year.



I used to love the smell of Jet-A in the morning...
User currently offlineBCAL From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2004, 3384 posts, RR: 16
Reply 12, posted (8 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 1782 times:

There was an article in Monday or Tuesday's Daily Mirror reporting 30% reduction in JetA-1 stocks at LHR following the weekend's explosion at Hemel Hempsted and as a result airlines were being asked to fill their tanks elsewhere.

The following restrictions were reported in pprune as being imposed by BP

Quote:
The rationing is effective immediately, with exception for aircraft currently en route to LHR. The duration is undetermined sofar.
We confirm that 30% shortage of supply is applicable.
This implies:
a 15% reduction for Long Haul home based carriers
a 36% reduction for Short Haul home based carriers
a 36% reduction for Long Haul visiting carriers
a 60% reduction for Short Haul visiting carriers
Long Haul is defined as longer than 5 hours.
Air BP is working with the other suppliers at LHR to seek alternative fuel supply to the airport.

So just like UK motorists have been panic buying at the garage pumps, the airlines might soon be panic buying at LHR.



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User currently offlineETStar From Canada, joined Jan 2004, 2103 posts, RR: 7
Reply 13, posted (8 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 1668 times:

South African is making a stop at Milan (MXP) on one of their twice daily nonstops to Johannesburg. The other nonstop and the nonstop to Cape Town will operate nonstop.

User currently offlineLindy Field From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 3120 posts, RR: 13
Reply 14, posted (8 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 1570 times:
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Does anyone have any info on how this is affecting trans-atlantic flights or flights from India? I'm scheduled on Air India next week from LHR to JFK...

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