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LX To JFK Goes Double Daily  
User currently offlineKnightsofmalta From Malta, joined Nov 2005, 1822 posts, RR: 19
Posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 6034 times:

With the beginning of the summer timetable LX will operate a second daily flight from ZRH to JFK. So far LX has only operated one daily flight, while offering additional capacity through a code-share agreement on the flight operated by AA.

The schedule of the new flight seems to be identical to the of the AA flight, departure from ZRH being at 13h00. The flight will operate by A. 330-200 and will be offered as a code-share with Star Alliance member UA.

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User currently offlineHB-IWC From Indonesia, joined Sep 2000, 4503 posts, RR: 72
Reply 1, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 6002 times:

What is LX going to source the equipment for the extra flight? Wide body capacity is restraint during the summer schedule. Is yet another wide body destination being closed or are other reductions/equipment downgrades taking place?

User currently offlinePanamair From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 4901 posts, RR: 25
Reply 2, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 5988 times:
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Will AA drop its own ZRH-JFK since the LX codeshares will be ending soon? So far, it looks like AA65 has been rescheduled next spring/summer to leave ZRH at 1110 instead of 1300.

User currently offlineKnightsofmalta From Malta, joined Nov 2005, 1822 posts, RR: 19
Reply 3, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 5977 times:

Quoting HB-IWC (Reply 1):
Is yet another wide body destination being closed or are other reductions/equipment downgrades taking place?

I don't know. Haven't heard anything in that direction. Although there have been rumours that LX might reduce or cancel ZRH-MIA. But as I say, it's just a rumour.

By the way, wasn't HB-IWC SR and LX's Hangar Queen? No offence!


User currently offlineHB-IWC From Indonesia, joined Sep 2000, 4503 posts, RR: 72
Reply 4, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 5965 times:

Quoting Knightsofmalta (Reply 3):
By the way, wasn't HB-IWC SR and LX's Hangar Queen? No offence!

No offence taken! The hangar queen was HB-IWD, though!


User currently offlineKnightsofmalta From Malta, joined Nov 2005, 1822 posts, RR: 19
Reply 5, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 5956 times:

Quoting Panamair (Reply 2):
So far, it looks like AA65 has been rescheduled next spring/summer to leave ZRH at 1110 instead of 1300.

As far as I know AA will continue to operate ZRH-JFK and it would actually make sense to reschedule the flight to 11h10. That's about the time it used to leave ZRH originally before the departure time was moved back by to hours in order to better coordinate with LX. Pitty though, I always thought LX and AA worked well together.


User currently offlineKnightsofmalta From Malta, joined Nov 2005, 1822 posts, RR: 19
Reply 6, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 5947 times:

Quoting HB-IWC (Reply 4):
No offence taken! The hangar queen was HB-IWD, though!

Okay, well that's a relief. I already thought I'd managed to insult somebody with my big mounth after having only just posted my 20th post earlier today!


User currently onlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32740 posts, RR: 72
Reply 7, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 5914 times:

Quoting Knightsofmalta (Reply 3):
Although there have been rumours that LX might reduce or cancel ZRH-MIA. But as I say, it's just a rumour.

From what I have been told, LH management is planning on keeping it. MIA is their second best performing US station after JFK. Although the effects of dropping the AA codeshare might hurt it, they expect it to remain profitable.



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User currently offlineKnightsofmalta From Malta, joined Nov 2005, 1822 posts, RR: 19
Reply 8, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 5895 times:

Quoting Knightsofmalta (Reply 6):
From what I have been told, LH management is planning on keeping it. MIA is their second best performing US station after JFK. Although the effects of dropping the AA codeshare might hurt it, they expect it to remain profitable.

Well, in that case, the only other possibility seems to be BOM.


User currently offlineASWISSinMAD From Spain, joined Sep 2005, 148 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 5881 times:

Could they also possibly suspend ZRH-JNB? Since SA also operates the route and is also entering Star Alliance....

Just a guess....


User currently offlinePM From Germany, joined Feb 2005, 6895 posts, RR: 63
Reply 10, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 5877 times:

Quoting Knightsofmalta (Reply 3):
there have been rumours that LX might reduce or cancel ZRH-MIA.

That might not help them much on the JFK route as the planes used on the MIA run (HB-IQA/J/K/O) aren't fitted with First Class.


User currently offlineKiwiandrew From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 8557 posts, RR: 13
Reply 11, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 5876 times:
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Quoting Knightsofmalta (Reply 8):
ell, in that case, the only other possibility seems to be BOM.

perhaps the ZRH-BKK-SIN flights will be dropped and LX will rely on codeshares with its STAR partners TG and SQ on ZRH-BKK and ZRH-SIN- this would free up an A340 to take over a current A330 route in turn releasing an A330 for this added ZRH-JFK flight .



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User currently offlinePanamair From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 4901 posts, RR: 25
Reply 12, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 5846 times:
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Quoting PM (Reply 10):
That might not help them much on the JFK route as the planes used on the MIA run (HB-IQA/J/K/O) aren't fitted with First Class.

Same with BOM, YUL, DAR/NBO, and occasionally BOS.

Quoting Kiwiandrew (Reply 11):
perhaps the ZRH-BKK-SIN flights will be dropped and LX will rely on codeshares with its STAR partners TG and SQ on ZRH-BKK and ZRH-SIN

Quite a few routes could be dropped due to the potential *A codeshares. Besides, SIN, BKK, and JNB as already mentioned, they could also hand ORD over to UA, thus freeing up an F/J/Y-configured A332.


User currently offlineKnightsofmalta From Malta, joined Nov 2005, 1822 posts, RR: 19
Reply 13, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 5841 times:

The thing is, any destination you choose seems rather tricky or unlikely. MIA seems to be doing very well for LX as MAH4546 stated above, BOM seems unlikely considering LH's recent and very fast expansion on the Indian subcontinent and I can't see it being YUL either because that's a route LH doesn't actually operate. I suppose it could be something to do with SIN and BKK because there was, yet another, rumour going round that they might either cancel the whole flight or at least the extension to SIN. Although cancelling the extension wouldn't free up any additional capacity really.

JNB seems least likely of all seeing as relations between SAA and LX have not exactly been "rosy", shall we say, in recent years.


User currently offlineHanginOut From Austria, joined May 2005, 550 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 5548 times:

Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't LH supposed to provide LX with some aircraft?

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User currently offlineKiwiandrew From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 8557 posts, RR: 13
Reply 15, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 5521 times:
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Quoting HanginOut (Reply 14):
Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't LH supposed to provide LX with some aircraft?

Yes , provided LX met some financial performance criteria - can't recall if the details were made public as to exactly what criteria LX had to meet in its recovery to 'earn' the additional a/c - but they were not unconditional - considering that Air Namibia has just received/or is in the process of receiving two A340s from LH I guess LX has not yet made the grade.



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User currently offlineSULUK From Switzerland, joined Jul 2005, 115 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 5399 times:

I think either LAX or SAO might be dropped to release another A/C for the JFK route... Just my thoughts...


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User currently offlineJoFMO From Germany, joined Jul 2004, 2211 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 5213 times:

Quoting HanginOut (Reply 14):
Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't LH supposed to provide LX with some aircraft?



Quoting Kiwiandrew (Reply 15):
Yes , provided LX met some financial performance criteria - can't recall if the details were made public as to exactly what criteria LX had to meet in its recovery to 'earn' the additional a/c - but they were not unconditional - considering that Air Namibia has just received/or is in the process of receiving two A340s from LH I guess LX has not yet made the grade.

Not only performance criteria. LH also asked for some consessions with the pilots, but like usual they refused them.
So no additional planes so far.


User currently offlineBOAC911 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 452 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 5009 times:

Are they maintaining the Geneva-JFK flight?

User currently offlineLindy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 1 day ago) and read 4963 times:

Yes, LX has two daily flights to JFK. One from Zurich and second from Geneva.
Both flights are A330.

Rafal


User currently offlineCV990 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 1 day ago) and read 4939 times:

Hi!

I think it's wonderfull to see LX getting a 2nd. flight to JFK!!! I'm sure that they know why they need to increase the offer to USA! That gives me the feeling that LX is growing and I sincerely hope that LX will keep going up steady!!!!
Congrats to them!
Regards


User currently offlineAlitaliaMD11 From Spain, joined Dec 2003, 4068 posts, RR: 13
Reply 21, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 1 day ago) and read 4898 times:

Any chance of seeing the A340-313X operating on one of those double daily flights to ZRH?


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User currently offlineFlySwiss From Switzerland, joined Jul 2003, 443 posts, RR: 43
Reply 22, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 4868 times:

Perhaps ORD as I heard from UA that they will start wtih non-stop flights from ORD and IAD to ZRH, from next summer.


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User currently offlineDutchjet From Netherlands, joined Oct 2000, 7864 posts, RR: 57
Reply 23, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 4851 times:

At one time, I think that Swissair was operating 3 flights on the JFK-ZRH route (all with A332s) plus the JFK-GVA service......this was of course at the height of the SR/SN growth period where the airlines were throwing a lot of capacity into the markets.

Its good to see LX adding a second flight to JFK......probably has to do with STAR alliance connections and support in the market. NYC-ZRH is now served by the big three alliances, AA (Oneworld), SR (Star) and CO (Skyteam).


User currently offlineDABVF From Germany, joined Sep 2004, 178 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 4735 times:

And here we have the new flight ZRH-JFK:
LX014 ZRH-JFK 13:00-15:40 daily 332
LX015 JFK-ZRH 21:00-10:55 daily 332


25 Post contains images ChrisZRH : If they have to cut off a route i guess it'll be JNB, long ground time and SAA could take over with their A340-600 or B747-400 (how great it would be
26 Post contains images SULUK : SWISSAIR was even operating 4 daily flights ex ZRH to NYC in summer 2000! - SR102 left at 10.30 to JFK - SR100 left at 12.30 to JFK - SR112 left at 16
27 SULUK : Yes, LX will use the A343 twice a week as follows: LX16 ZRH-JFK Mondays and Tuesdays LX17 JFK-ZRH Mondays and Tuesdays the rest of the week will be o
28 Jaysit : Why would they drop the BOM flight? That flight's been a daily for decades now and is very popular with the Bollywood set who fly to Switzerland cons
29 Aviationmaster : It's nice to see Swiss expand their JFK service by adding a second daily flight. I don't think LX's daily BOM is affected by the additional JFK flight
30 Matterhorn : great news for LX. i am wondering as well which destination gets dropped unless the get new A-340 from LH... anyway, when i was checking the ZRH-JFK r
31 BOAC911 : My question actually was whether the the GVA-JFK flight will be maintained when the 2nd ZRH-JFK is introduced. From what route are they going to be pu
32 ChrisZRH : from what i've read is that they aren't going to cut a route at all... just optimisation of the flights... chris
33 Snoopy : It was actually ZRH-BSL-EWR....
34 Kahala777 : Couldnt American Airlines better utilize the aircraft after the departure of Swiss, to a market such as HNL-NRT? LAX-MAN? JFK-SCL? JFK-GIG? ORD-GRU?
35 RJ100 : No route will get dropped, they will make the new flight possible with a better operation planning. The longhaul routes are safe until next summer whe
36 Joelatbsl : Snoopy - The BSL-ZRH tag was flown once weekly to allow maintenance at ZRH. So not really ZRH-BSL-EWR but rather BSL-EWR with a weekly positioning fli
37 Knightsofmalta : I've got a bit more news on this: By the looks of it, it seems that the two A. 340-300 will actually be coming by the summer schedule and LH will be f
38 Eyeonthesky17 : Speaking of LX and new routes. What if anything has anyone heard or think about a possible LX/PrivatAir on EWRBSL?? Seems like it could work
39 RJ100 : They are still in negociations with the local companies. LX would like to offer this service but CO is offering too. Seeing LX expanding ZRH-JFK it wi
40 Ka : Well, OS is painting one of their A343 (LAK) into special colors for the Mozart Year 2006. I don´t think they will dispose the two A343s that early.
41 HB-IWC : Operating a BKK-ZRH flight according to a daylight pattern is a controversial move to say the least. The old Swissair operated once a twice weekly ZR
42 UpperDeck79 : There is only one night time Japan-Europe flight: AF NRT-CDG 21:55-04:35+1 daily (14h40min) Finnair operates BKK-Europe both night and day (during th
43 Knightsofmalta : It's very unlikely LX will reschedule either the GRU or the JNB flights as at both destinations the aircraft have work done on them, which includes c
44 Post contains images UpperDeck79 : That must be a VERY clean aircraft after that 12 hours of cleaning!
45 Knightsofmalta : I mean, the aircraft is washed from the outside, with soap, brush and water...or whatever it is they use. At least that's what I've been told.
46 Panamair : Actually, something has to give (maybe not route suspensions but either reduced frequencies and/or upgrading one of these A332 routes to one of the r
47 ChrisZRH : haha that's strange... probably go down to a 6-weekly BOS or YUL i guess
48 Post contains links LXM83 : Could this be the missing piece of the puzzle: Swiss To Drop LAX?
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