Duke From Czech Republic, joined Sep 1999, 1118 posts, RR: 2 Posted (3 years 11 months 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 661 times:
I would like a bit of info about this old executive jet. In my spotting career, I have seen and identified only one of these four- rear-mounted-engined jets (though I may have seen more and not recognized them as such, as a decent number were re-engned with only two more modern engines, making them less distinctive).
Are there still many flying around or not, and if so, where is it most likely to see them?
Also, I remember a discussion about another small 4-engined jet roughly similar to a Jetstar (I think it was a McDonnell/Douglas jet) only the engines were wing-mounted. What aircraft am I thinking about, did it ever get past the prototype stage and if so, are any still flying?
OPNLguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 1, posted (3 years 11 months 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 650 times:
Quoting Duke (Thread starter): Also, I remember a discussion about another small 4-engined jet roughly similar to a Jetstar (I think it was a McDonnell/Douglas jet) only the engines were wing-mounted. What aircraft am I thinking about, did it ever get past the prototype stage and if so, are any still flying?
IIRC, this one (literally) was just a prototype, and the only copy is on display at the Kirtland AFB section of ABQ. I remember taxiing past numerous times in the past, although I don't know where it is on the base now...
If you want to see a Jetstar in action, go to your local video store and rent "Hellfighters" as the aircraft is in there quite a bit. It's also in the James Bond flick "Goldfinger", but not as much as the other film.
2H4 From United States, joined Oct 2004, 8079 posts, RR: 64 Reply 2, posted (3 years 11 months 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 641 times:
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Quoting Duke (Thread starter): Also, I remember a discussion about another small 4-engined jet roughly similar to a Jetstar (I think it was a McDonnell/Douglas jet) only the engines were wing-mounted. What aircraft am I thinking about
I used to see that one almost daily at BUR back in the late '70s.
Are jetstars really that scarce these days? I guess their inefficiency finally caught up with them. Pretty classy though. Kind of a Cadillac to the Lear-23's Corvette.
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474218 From United States, joined Oct 2005, 3713 posts, RR: 1 Reply 9, posted (3 years 11 months 20 hours ago) and read 416 times:
The Lockheed JetStar and the McDonnell 220 were both candidates for the Air Force UCX (Utility Transport Experimental) program in the late 1950's. The North American Saberliner was designed for the Air Force UTX (Utility Trainer Experimental) program about the same time. When the UCX program was cancelled the Air Force ordered the JetStar as a trainer (designated as the T-40). However, before the first one was built the order was cancelled and given to North American for the smaller and cheaper Saberliner. Then in 1960 the Air Force placed an order for the JetStar, but not as a trainer but in its original form, as a utility transport. To the Air Force the JetStar was called the C-140 and the Saberliner was the T-39.
Crownvic From United States, joined Oct 2004, 1154 posts, RR: 8 Reply 10, posted (3 years 11 months 12 hours ago) and read 320 times:
Although the numbers of JetStars are dwindling, there are quite a few still flying. Like G II's a lot have found there way into African skies. In the US, they are still regular visitors to airports that have frequent bizjet activity (i.e. LAS, VNY, TEB, etc.). Most examples flying today are of the later JetStar 731 that feature the Garrett fanjet engines. With a little luck though, there are some older JetStar's still flying around with turbojet engines. Up until a year ago, we would get one regularly that was registered in Mexico. I have not seen it this year, though
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