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Wheel Falls Off Northwest Plane  
User currently offlineDc10heaven From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 55 posts, RR: 0
Posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 12384 times:

I read this story in The Commercial Appeal (Memphis) today. I can't find a link to the story on their website so I'll type it because it is short.

"A landing gear wheel fell off a NW DC-9 after it landed in Memphis early Wed. afternoon and bounced down the taxiway beside the plane. Shop workers estimated the tire weighed 200 pounds. The DC9 taxied to the gate normally, and all 117 passengers exited through the loading bridge. No one was hurt."

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User currently offlineDAYflyer From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 3807 posts, RR: 3
Reply 1, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 12299 times:

Strange story. I wonder what the pilots and pax thought as the wheel bounced down the taxiway beside the aircraft!


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User currently offlinePPVRA From Brazil, joined Nov 2004, 8942 posts, RR: 40
Reply 2, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 12240 times:

[hint to NW]Planes are so old the bolts are falling off - replace [/hint to NW]

LOL... just kidding people

Glad no one got run over.

Cheers



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User currently offlineSHUPirate1 From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 3670 posts, RR: 17
Reply 3, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 12178 times:

Oh, dear...somebody might want to alert http://amfanatl.org to tell them how bad the scabs are, they can't even put the wheel on right... Wink


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User currently offlineTristarsteve From Sweden, joined Nov 2005, 3976 posts, RR: 34
Reply 4, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 12140 times:

Reminds me of a little story
A nosewheel fell off a GF Tristar on takeoff from LHR in 1978 bound for BAH. During the six hour night flight the Managers all got together to decide what to do. There was a slight problem because in those days BAH was very busy at 0530 when it was due to land with B747-200 departing.
Anyway about 0500 the Ops Manager made a decision..Let it land.. he said. The rest of us wondered what else it was going to do! The landing was uneventful and it taxied to the gate.

[Edited 2005-12-15 21:12:06]

User currently offlineDc10heaven From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 55 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 11993 times:

This may be the last straw before retiring the DC-9s.  laughing 

User currently offlineDTWorBust From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 90 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 11812 times:

Great, as you can see from my handle, I fly NWA a lot - can't wait for the wheels to start coming off (literally)


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User currently offlineLTBEWR From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 13030 posts, RR: 12
Reply 7, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 11726 times:

Such events can occur for a number of reasons, often human error. Overtightened or undertightened wheel bolts, damaged wheel or bolts/lugs, failure to spot a problem, brake problems, metal fatague (a factor in older a/c) and so on. I hope they determine the cause soon.

User currently offlineGoldenshield From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 5970 posts, RR: 14
Reply 8, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 11687 times:

Quoting SHUPirate1 (Reply 3):
Oh, dear...somebody might want to alert http://amfanatl.org to tell them how bad the scabs are, they can't even put the wheel on right...

And you do realize that is was possible that a contractor put it on as well?



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User currently offlineNitrohelper From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 469 posts, RR: 5
Reply 9, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 11302 times:

When do you think Northworst will replace the DC-9's?  wave  How about "is Airbus better than Boeing to replace the DC-9's"  Big grin OK that's all for now ,,thank you

User currently offlineAogdesk From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 935 posts, RR: 3
Reply 10, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 11209 times:

Its HIGHLY unlikely that a wheel assy falling off had ANYTHING to do with the age of the bird. Its much more likely that a mechanic who is unfamiliar with standard maintenance practices screwed up. Take that however you want.

User currently offlineStuckinMAF From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 11161 times:

It's only one wheel, what's the big deal? The plane has 5 others. I mean, it's not like it was a nosewheel that was sideways or something.  duck 

User currently offlineSeptember11 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 3623 posts, RR: 21
Reply 12, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 11118 times:

To me, that's rare...

Here are two examples of almost identical landing incidents:


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User currently offline474218 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 6340 posts, RR: 9
Reply 13, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 10981 times:

Identical? The ATR lost a nose wheel assembly. The 737 broke a main axel. What is identical is that in both cases the tire that remained could not take the extra load and failed.

User currently offlineAirRyan From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 2532 posts, RR: 5
Reply 14, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 10912 times:

Quoting Nitrohelper (Reply 9):
When do you think Northworst will replace the DC-9's? How about "is Airbus better than Boeing to replace the DC-9's" OK that's all for now ,,thank you

Just heard Doug speak of this Wednesday. He said that basically they are offering the ALPA NW pilots the first 500 pilot jobs to currently furloughed NW pilots to fly the new 70 and 100 seat range aircraft under what NW is calling "NEWCO," very similar to what they did with Pinnacle back in 1996. (Pinnacle believes that NW is not as interested in retaining their business as they should be - you would think they would go with Pinnacle before anyone else but you never know nowadays.)

They are currently considering the Embarer 170/190 (perhaps even the 195) to the CRJ 700/900 combo. However the pilot's scope clause is causing the two parties to disagree on how much salary these pilots will get and so NW has an RFP out with basically every commuter airline capable of offering these types of service (Mesa Air Group obviously in the front as they already operate CRJ 700 adn 900's for HP.)

If the pilots agree with NW and NEWCO is launched, it will depend upon how creative they the management can get as well as how flexible the courts will allow them to place an order for 100+ airframes, but Bombardier needs the CRJ 700/900 business very bad right now so highly attractive financing and terms might be able to be obtained. If NW decides to outsource the contract (and ALPA pilots at NW don't strike) than the prospect of retiring the DC-9's sooner may be feasible, but it all just depends upon various and numerous variables.


User currently offlineDokken10 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 290 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 10883 times:

Quoting Aogdesk (Reply 10):
Its HIGHLY unlikely that a wheel assy falling off had ANYTHING to do with the age of the bird. Its much more likely that a mechanic who is unfamiliar with standard maintenance practices screwed up. Take that however you want.

I agree, this happened years ago at NWA. We would get maintenance updates(sorry I can't remember the name NWA used) we called them read and sign updates. I do remember seeing this update. NWA found that the wheel assembly was installed improperly. They also found it was a 3rd party vendor that installed the wheel assembly last. Who's to blame on this one, I don't know but it makes you think.


User currently offlineEMBQA From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 9364 posts, RR: 11
Reply 16, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 10843 times:

Quoting September11 (Reply 12):
To me, that's rare...

Sorry, not rare at all. It happens more ofthen then you think



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User currently offlineDokken10 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 290 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 10840 times:

With everything going on a NWA why is this not making mainstream media?

User currently offlineFLY2HMO From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 10525 times:

Sabotage from angry NWA employees?  duck   Wink

User currently offlineType-Rated From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 4940 posts, RR: 19
Reply 19, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 9803 times:

Several years ago a NW DC-9 bound for DTW lost a main gear wheel on takeoff at MDW. The tire rolled off the end of the runway, through the chain link fence, bounced off of a car.

NW Wheel Separation At MDW

Needless to say those wheel assemblies have some momentum for sure!



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User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21472 posts, RR: 60
Reply 20, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 9637 times:

Quoting Type-Rated (Reply 19):
Several years ago a NW DC-9 bound for DTW lost a main gear wheel on takeoff at MDW.

Were the superior union mechanics off that day?

Blaming something this common on a "scab" when that scab is most likely a former union mechanic who got laid off by another airline.



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User currently offlineMxCtrlr From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 2485 posts, RR: 35
Reply 21, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 5 days ago) and read 9011 times:

Gang, this really is no big deal structurally for the aircraft. Aircraft are, by their vrey nature, designed with fail-safe standards incorporated. The loss of one (or more) wheels is not a catastrophic event. Many aircraft have landed with blown/shredded/missing tires or lost them on taxi and been just fine after the tire gets replaced.

Unless it was mechanical/structural failure of some kind, the most likely scenario is the pre-torque/final-torque values were not followed properly when the tire was last installed.

MxCtrlr  bouncy 



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User currently offlineTozairport From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 682 posts, RR: 1
Reply 22, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 8323 times:

To summarize:

SCAB maintenance results in SCAB accidents.

That's just the way it is.  box 



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User currently offlineDokken10 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 290 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 8004 times:

Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 20):
Were the superior union mechanics off that day?

Blaming something this common on a "scab" when that scab is most likely a former union mechanic who got laid off by another airline.

Please read reply 15


User currently offlineGoaliemn From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 463 posts, RR: 3
Reply 24, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 6652 times:

Quoting Dokken10 (Reply 17):
With everything going on a NWA why is this not making mainstream media?

Because its not a big deal? Tires blow on landing alot. They are designed to land missing a tire or 2.


25 Ikramerica : Please read reply 19. Were scabs working that day?
26 BryanG : Yeah, I remember when that happened. It only got five seconds on the news, and nobody made a big deal about it. That tire weighed more than I do, and
27 Post contains links GulfstreamGuy : The same thing happened here in LIT in 1994 to a WN 737. This is the NTSB report. GulfstreamGuy
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