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AA Reduce On-Board Amenities?  
User currently offlineAirbear From Australia, joined May 2001, 648 posts, RR: 1
Posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days ago) and read 6863 times:

I read an article in yesterday's Aviation section of The Australian (newspaper). Among other things, it said that AA was removing pillows from their a/c in an effort to penny-pinch.

I am booked to fly SJC/NRT with AA in Feb.2006. Does anyone know if this pillow removal also applies to long-haul flights? Even tho' it's a day flight, I still use the pilows to support my back.

Any answers will be appreciated. Cheers and best wishes in the coming Festive Season, to all!

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User currently offlineJetdeltamsy From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 2987 posts, RR: 8
Reply 1, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days ago) and read 6856 times:

I think pillows are gone from the fleet.

I rode American the other day CLT-DFW and there weren't even pretzels. Nothing except drinks.



Tired of airline bankruptcies....EA/PA/TW and finally DL.
User currently offlineAJRfromSYR From United States of America, joined May 2005, 454 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days ago) and read 6856 times:

When I read the title I was trying to think of what else AA could remove from the plane... its pretty striped as it is from a pax POV.

But I support the move, do what you must to stay profitable, all the other airlines are doing it.



-AJR-
User currently offline777Purser From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 219 posts, RR: 3
Reply 3, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days ago) and read 6841 times:

There are no current plans to remove pillows or blankets on ANY IFS (long range) flights. Provisioning will continue at 100% on those markets.

User currently offlineAmhilde From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 643 posts, RR: 5
Reply 4, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days ago) and read 6829 times:

Ive done long haul and domestic in the past year on AA and definitely no amenities domestic but the pillows and blankets were there on the long-haul. They already charge you for alcoholic drinks ( this was transatlantic so you may differ on your flight)- there would be an uproar if they did away with the limp blanket and pillow combo too.


Hang on tightly, Let go lightly
User currently offlineDc10s4ever From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days ago) and read 6828 times:

On 1/1...AA will begin charging $1.00 for 12 oz can of sodas in Y class. A complimentry cup of ice will be provided.

User currently offlineAJRfromSYR From United States of America, joined May 2005, 454 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days ago) and read 6812 times:

Quoting Dc10s4ever (Reply 5):
A complimentry cup of ice will be provided.

Nice of them  Smile

No where else does one get free drinks... it makes sense. You have to pay on the train.



-AJR-
User currently offlineAA737-823 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 5731 posts, RR: 11
Reply 7, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 6782 times:

Oh my grief.

This is ridiculous. And now, WHAT is my incentive, oh wise AA marketing department, to choose your cheAAp airline over, say... Southwest? You know, Southwest... the airline that gives free coke and pretzels.

Southwest just turned into Legend, and all they had to do was sit there.


Okay, I am exaggerating a bit- Conti is the one that gave me TWO FREE MEALS from ANC-IAH. But still. Between AA and WN, I can't find any reason to fly AA... especially since they're very stingy lately on their "sAAver" awards. By the way, since when is 25k miles "SAAVER"? Instead of saver and standard, they should call them "what you're used to but can't get" and "rip off, but it's all that's available."

Ciao, silver bird. Something special in the air? My foot.


User currently offlineCtbarnes From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 3491 posts, RR: 50
Reply 8, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 6706 times:

Quoting Dc10s4ever (Reply 5):
On 1/1...AA will begin charging $1.00 for 12 oz can of sodas in Y class. A complimentry cup of ice will be provided.

Please tell me you're joking.

PS: No mention of this on their website or their press releases.

Charles, SJ

[Edited 2005-12-17 04:38:22]


The customer isn't a moron, she is your wife -David Ogilvy
User currently offlineKahala777 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 6647 times:

Read 'Er Up!

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...le/2005/12/12/AR2005121201460.html


KAHALA777


User currently offlineIncitatus From Brazil, joined Feb 2005, 4002 posts, RR: 13
Reply 10, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 6641 times:

Geez, what's next?
We board the plane and whoever wants to take a seat has to pay $5. Otherwise it's standing room...(?!)


User currently offlineAeroWesty From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 20394 posts, RR: 62
Reply 11, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 6613 times:

Before everyone begins leaping out of their seats, according to that WaPo article, the $1 per soda is on Eagle flights out of LAX as a test, not mainline flights ... yet.


International Homo of Mystery
User currently offlineLY4XELD From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 857 posts, RR: 15
Reply 12, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 6548 times:

Quoting Dc10s4ever (Reply 5):
On 1/1...AA will begin charging $1.00 for 12 oz can of sodas in Y class. A complimentry cup of ice will be provided.

As AeroWesty said, you're wrong. It's only a test on American EAGLE flights out of LAX. Not AA and not the entire system.



That's why we're here.
User currently offlineAirbear From Australia, joined May 2001, 648 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 6485 times:

Hmmm. Thanks for the replies, folks.

User currently offlineCtbarnes From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 3491 posts, RR: 50
Reply 14, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 6419 times:

Quoting LY4XELD (Reply 12):
As AeroWesty said, you're wrong. It's only a test on American EAGLE flights out of LAX. Not AA and not the entire system.

Only a matter of time. AA will ram this through on to the mainline one way or another.

We know why you fly, but we'll screw you anyway.

Charles, SJ



The customer isn't a moron, she is your wife -David Ogilvy
User currently offlineEHHO From Bulgaria, joined Dec 2005, 815 posts, RR: 7
Reply 15, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 6382 times:

Well, I don't know about you folks, but I'm pretty happy with AA!!

Just a few days ago, I went ORD-SFO-ORD with them for $178RT, and also got and odd 5000 miles credited to my AAdvantage account, allowing me to get a 13 week Financial Times trial AND a 52 week Economist subscription. Plus, onboard I had plenty of space (31" there, ex TW plane, and 34" back, ex MRTC plane), free blankets, coffee and pretzels.

Seems like a great deal for less than 200 bucks!



"Get your facts first. Then you may distort them as much as you please" -- Mark Twain
User currently offlineCoyoteguy From Mexico, joined Oct 2001, 442 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 6287 times:

There really is nothing appealing left about AA at all. What a change from ten years ago.

User currently offlineDutchjet From Netherlands, joined Oct 2000, 7864 posts, RR: 57
Reply 17, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 6262 times:

I realize that AA is making these cost-cutting moves in response to the travelling public's demand for very low fares and the presumption that pax are unwilling to pay extra for any type of amenities.....but there is a limit to what is acceptable. I am not sure that the flying public will accept AA's approach in the long-run; its odd, we are at the point where the LCCs (which were always known for the low fares and limited inflight service) are offering more inflight service than legacy carriers such as AA.

If a pax pays a very low deeply discounted fare to fly on AA, they will live with the lack of inflight services, but what about the business pax that paid a thousand dollars or more for a last minute business trip on AA? Will this pax be happy paying a buck for a cola, not having a pillow, and not being offered even a snack?


User currently offlineGoingboeing From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 4875 posts, RR: 16
Reply 18, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 6218 times:

I heard that to save weight and cut costs, they were replacing seats with balsa wood benches.

User currently offlineJacobin777 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 14968 posts, RR: 60
Reply 19, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 6165 times:

Quoting EHHO (Reply 15):
Well, I don't know about you folks, but I'm pretty happy with AA!!

Just a few days ago, I went ORD-SFO-ORD with them for $178RT, and also got and odd 5000 miles credited to my AAdvantage account, allowing me to get a 13 week Financial Times trial AND a 52 week Economist subscription. Plus, onboard I had plenty of space (31" there, ex TW plane, and 34" back, ex MRTC plane), free blankets, coffee and pretzels.

exactly...I fly on that route a heck of an amount of times......though I preferred their 738's on that route (and for a very brief time, 757's), flying their MD-80's are great....especially as EHHO said, the price and frequent flier mileage I get..

not to mention, people could talk all the smack they want about AA, but the bottom line is their stock is up 100% the past 3 months and up a whopping THREE HUNDRED and FIFTY PERCENT the past 16 months...

now what company, ESPECIALLY an airline company could claim that?

they must be doing something good.!



"Up the Irons!"
User currently offlineVenezuela747 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 1427 posts, RR: 5
Reply 20, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 5998 times:

My family is flying COS-DFW-BHM on January05 and returning January 08...both flights are MD80 about 2 hours long....does that mean they will get nothing on board? Not even some beverages? I thought the $1 was for AMerican Eagle


ROLL TIDE!!!
User currently offlineTACAA320 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 5986 times:

Quoting Venezuela747 (Reply 20):
My family is flying COS-DFW-BHM on January05 and returning January 08...both flights are MD80 about 2 hours long....does that mean they will get nothing on board? Not even some beverages?

Maybe nothing or... almost nothing.
Advice: Buy something before get on board.


User currently offline1millionflyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 5984 times:

Quoting Venezuela747 (Reply 20):
My family is flying COS-DFW-BHM on January05 and returning January 08...both flights are MD80 about 2 hours long....does that mean they will get nothing on board? Not even some beverages? I thought the $1 was for AMerican Eagle

You will get beverages, the poster that said AA was stopping drink service apparently cannot take the time to understand the article.

Only American Eagle flights to/from LAX will be test marketing the idea as of 1.1


User currently offlineJFKLGANYC From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 3391 posts, RR: 5
Reply 23, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 5930 times:

"You will get beverages, the poster that said AA was stopping drink service apparently cannot take the time to understand the article."

Excuse me, with all do respect, he understood it fine and exagerrated it to make a point.

AMR corp owns both AE and AA . . . they are one company. Now, Eagle is testing this out at the LAX hub (yes, it is an Eagle hub). If it works, it will be spread throughout the system . . . and when I say system I mean AA and AE.

I think the pt he was trying to make was clear: we have reached an all-time low. The world's largest airline will begin the testing process to eventually charge for soft drinks.

AA Reduce On-Board Amenities?

No. Unless they get rid of window shades, there is nothing left to reduce.

PJ


User currently offlineKahala777 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 5870 times:

Quoting 1millionflyer (Reply 22):
You will get beverages, the poster that said AA was stopping drink service apparently cannot take the time to understand the article.

Only American Eagle flights to/from LAX will be test marketing the idea as of 1.1

American Eagle Now...

Systemwide Later...

KAHALA777


25 Type-Rated : The last two posts are correct. An article in the Houston Chronicle said that this was a test to see if they can get away with it. If they can and don
26 Post contains images TWAMD-80 : Well considering it's after the holiday season, I guess no one can say bah humbug. TW
27 Post contains images Kahala777 : Would the Flight Attendants be able to make change for the quarters needed to access the lav? KAHALA777
28 Post contains images Lufthansa : If this is for real, how can AA claim to be full service? WN is making more effort! (and i'm no fan of them either!) Hell, they're getting one step c
29 FLFlyGuy : It amazes me how people here leap to conclusions. The soda thing is a TEST on some Eagle flights out of LAX. That's all. A test will either succeed or
30 Post contains images Atrude777 : HAHAHA, Well Said Tim, well said! I was JUST talking to my friend about this how much AA is becming the Ryan Air of USA. Truth is, WN has always been
31 COERJ145 : Actually, Allegiant Air is probably the "Ryanair" of the US. You have to pay for drinks and snacks on them. No other US airline has sunk that low so
32 TACAA320 : I can recall what an a.netter said sometime ago. That when you buy a ticket with them is simply to transport you from point A to B. Period. Not to giv
33 797 : Today on my CCS-MIA flight, they made a very cheap announcement saying: "Ladies and Gentlemen, we'd like to inform that at the moment we ran out of pi
34 Post contains links Kahala777 : Then American Airlines should state publicaly that they are no longer a domestic full service airline! Simple as that! Arent there laws against false
35 Ripcordd : They are full service airline when you pay for first class. 2nd they are doing all of us a favor by dumping the pillows and hopefully soon the blanket
36 Post contains images AA767400 : Oh don't worry Kahala, They will follow as well.
37 Kahala777 : Who will? Are you referring to United Express? It is not part of United Airlines corporate culture to charge for such basic amenities as soda on flig
38 Cory6188 : Okay, quite honestly, that's putting a spin on the situation that's total BS. You're saying that you'd prefer not to have anything at all and that th
39 Post contains images AA767400 : LOL! UA would never do such a thing? Kind of like all the exerting you do on this forum? Please, let's not bash on Kahala's UA now.
40 N844aa : This is really quite unbelievable. I have to imagine that whatever amount of money this earns (assuming this spreads systemwide) will be more than des
41 Tommy767 : I just flew AA LAX-EWR and there were free pillows and blankets for everyone and they showed a fantastic Peter Sellers movie, "A Shot in the Dark" in
42 F27XXX : Ummmm. American Airlines is NOT the train. And to answer your dumb question "where else does one get free drinks?" ..... UNITED (for one). My god --
43 1MillionFlyer : Why don't you just put a flag of UA colors in your profile? Your comments are so biased it is truly laughable. Your assumption of AA systemwide is un
44 Jumpseat70 : Ah the days of a selection of three meals in coach. The days of Chateau Briand in First Class. DEREGULATION!! The word and deed in 1976 that changed u
45 1MillionFlyer : Deregulation was in 1978 not 1976 , and meal service did not start declining until the mid 80's with First class holding it's own on most carriers unt
46 LACA773 : In regards to even testing the charge for twelve ounces of soda, is completely tacky and frugal. In my opinion it's sad you're even backing up the "t
47 Post contains images TACAA320 : Are CO's pillows & blankets sealed in a plastic bag? Nope. Ergo: Don't use them. They may be contaminated
48 LY4XELD : I think the bigger embarassment is having a management team that can't get the carrier out of bankruptcy after over 2 years. United may not charge fo
49 Fleet Service : Better find a different user name in that case don't you think?
50 RIPCORDD : Cory there may be a demand for the pillows and blankets but trust me if people really knew what when on with them there would be no demand for them. T
51 Captaink : I flew AA1711 DFW/MIA B763 on thursday morning, and there was pillows and blankets.. The day before I flew MEX/DFW on an MD83 and i noticed blankets..
52 Post contains images AJRfromSYR : Wow you guys are whinny... You fly on a plane to get from A-B. When your at McDonald's and you want a soda what do you do? When you sitting in the ter
53 AA767400 : Well if Oneworld members EI, and IB can charge for soft drinks, AND water on intra-European flights, than why can't another member? I don't hear anyo
54 AJRfromSYR : Ya, don't pay your employees a pension but give free soda to all... I would reply to you but I then realized what lack of logic and understanding you
55 Post contains images Jacobin777 : There are blankets on every flight, regardless of the duration....there are pillows on many flights, especially on many flights..though I won't use th
56 AirNZ : Hmm! think about whose doing the whining and complaining though. Sorry, but most Europeans don't fly based upon which airline gives a free coke or pr
57 Cory6188 : The pillows and blankets are brought onboard at the beginning of each flight; they don't just stay on there all day. When I flew from PBI-EWR on CO i
58 Gift4tbone : Personally I don't like the idea of it. Especially if they put it on their M80s. There is absolutly no IFE, and to have to pay for a soda, on top of t
59 FiveMileFinal : Honestly? I would choose US if US offered a better product. In these days where the most you're promised is that the plane will land upright and in o
60 1MillionFlyer : The onboard magazine IS Inflight Entertainment (IFE) unless you can't read of course.
61 Gift4tbone : Ah! Yes, I'm sorry, I did forget about the magazine. I guess we can call that entertainment, although more than 75% of it, we could also call adverti
62 F27XXX : C'mon - take a stab at it. And what disability are you referring to? The fact that I don't agree with you?
63 777Purser : Maybe for now it is not. It is however part of their corporate culture to antagonize their work groups and take away their pensions. We at least are
64 Ckfred : Folks, if you fly Eagle out of LAX, then don't buy pop. Ask for coffee, hot tea, milk, or water, and tell the F/A why you won't buy pop. Or better yet
65 F27XXX : Add AirTran's XM Radio to the list !! And AA features no IFE (an in-flight magazine isn't IFE, sorry) on any of their raggedy old MD80s ... and is co
66 Post contains images Tommy767 : I also remember flying Business Class on CO in 2004 on PBI-EWR and them not serving a meal Tommy in EWR/LAX
67 ORDflier : Better idea... go to Albertson's... get your 12-pack of coke and bring it to the airport cold. On board, sell them individually for a price undercutti
68 F27XXX : YEP !! take one of those tall roll-aboard bags and configure it like a little mini barcart and roll it down the aisles doing your own sales before th
69 Kahala777 : Well if this cost cutting continues you wont have to worry about pensions because what is left of your audience will be gone. KAHALA777
70 1MillionFlyer : that was not my qoute, please don't quote a qoute of a qoute, I would never say that.
71 Jacobin777 : given how their stock price is doing, and the fact they are one of the carriers who haven't filed for bankruptcy......I think u're a bit off with you
72 Post contains images AJRfromSYR : That is the most ignorant statement I've seen. You're warped views compete with the proper understanding of a publicly traded company. Since you are
73 Kahala777 : The topic was "AA Reduce On-Board Amenities", it has been proven over and over again that American Airlines is reducing amenities. Like it or not. KA
74 1MillionFlyer : Everyone is reducing onbaord amenities what are you smoking? LOL
75 Kahala777 : This topic is about American Airlines and their cost cutting measures, not other airlines. KAHALA777
76 F27XXX : Wow AJ - - loosen up a little -- too bad you cant grasp the idea of a little humor being slipped in. But I stand by all my comments here: AA is an em
77 1MillionFlyer : The topic is about the airline industry and AA, they are responding to the marketplace. WN is now better than DL's F and UA's F domestic is a joke in
78 Cory6188 : Well, in all fairness, not everyone. CO made a few cuts after 9/11 on in flight amenities, but beyond that, things haven't really changed for them to
79 1MillionFlyer : I flew CO a lot last year and they are very good. I fly F9 these days and I am very happy with them too.
80 Kahala777 : The term "extra bad" was never used. In addition throughout this post it has been proven over and over that American Airlines is indeed dropping amen
81 AA767400 : Why do people think that complaining to the Flight Attendant will make a difference? You think management cares what Flight Attendants have to say?
82 Post contains images 1MillionFlyer : No they have not dropped anything more than DL NW UA have dropped We are not talking about B6 here, as you keep pointing out. Please prove which main
83 Post contains links Kahala777 : They never have, and that is why they end up in so much trouble with not only the travelling public but finances as well. Delta Airlines Meal Policy:
84 1MillionFlyer : only on PS flight you dolt Complimentary meal service Complimentary meal service is typically available in First and Business class on flights over 2
85 Jacobin777 : Again...if AA is sooooooo bad, why is their stock up 100% this year and 350% the past 16 months???
87 Ckfred : AA767400: If charging for pop out of LAX is doing is a test, then supervisors are going to ask the F/As about feedback. And if supervisors don't ask,
88 FiveMileFinal : Probably because they're being rewarded for cutting costs to the bone, with nary a care about the impact of said cost-cutting.
89 F27XXX : Ummm ... passengers saying they didnt want any IFE? Yea I heard they did another test like that one where they removed the lavatories on all MD80 and
90 Jacobin777 : they will be profitable this year also.... the planes are packed for the most part........
91 AJRfromSYR : And I agree that they are, saying AA is going belly up because of it is insane. Understood, I was more bitter about you calling my question "dumb". B
92 AA767400 : Another lie to bash even more. Where did you get this one from, a bum on the street? AA has never taken off a W/C to put more seats in on it's S80, a
93 AA767400 : I understand the concept, but unfortunately AA could care less what Flight Attendants have to say about it. AA always goes by passenger complaints le
94 Xkorpyoh : I gave up on AA after 10years of exclusivly flying with them (ex-AAPlatinum) and the cut in amenties was one of the issues. But what made me change w
95 NYCAAer : One additional amenity going as of 1 January on all American mainline flights, including long-haul flights to UK/Europe/South America/Asia, are pretze
96 F27XXX : How sad that those little bags with about 6 pretzel bits an considered an amenity to get excited about.
97 Xkorpyoh : I am so happy about that. I hate those damn pretzels with a passion. Even my mother that only travel 3 times a year, couldnt' stand those pretzels. s
98 F27XXX : I know times have changed, but man when I was a F/A back in the 80s (for a commuter carrier, yet!!) we used to serve ...get this .. Honey Roast Cashew
99 Kahala777 : This thread has taken roller coaster turns. The end result is that the question has been answered. YES - American Airlines is reducing on-board amenit
100 AJRfromSYR : So you side track 2 topics with your slanted hatred, and now you offer this as some sort of apology on both threads or...?
101 PDXLVR : Free beer on QX- a commuter at that!
102 Post contains links Ctbarnes : I guess the moral of the story is: if you don't like where AA's inflight service is going, don't complain to the FA's complain to customer relations:
103 Airlinerfreak : Gerard Arpey is a very smart man indeed. What ever he is doing for the airline in my bet is a positive thing. We are hear bashing AA and what not, but
104 Ctbarnes : Er, there's always Continental. During this downturn they made minimal service cuts yet lost less money than their competitors and actually turned a
105 Post contains images Kahala777 : Get your head out of the sand..... AA is reducing amenities, it has been proven over and over again... AA is offering Pea Soup as a First Class meal.
106 UN_B732 : After having a Silver breakfast box on AA for breakfast, who knows how many costs they could cut.. However, they still have fairly good staff, and are
107 Ckfred : F27XXX: You know why people don't want to pay for IFE? Becasue so many people now have iPods or laptops with headphones. When my wife has a longer fli
108 AJRfromSYR : No one disagrees, read the thread. No one is trying to hide the fact. You're trying to make it mean AA is a bad airline because your head is in UA's
109 Vegas005 : AA are a bunch of scumbags. Period. But..I have over 900 flights around the world and I have never seen a dead person carried off the plane because th
110 Amhilde : I even got that YVR-SEA! With something decently snack-y with it. That was a fun flight, the one flight attendant really took care of us and had fun
111 F27XXX : I'm not talking about pay IFE-- what about all the free channels, etc - - when we were on Song and on JetBlue , i was absolutely floored at the selec
112 AA777 : when was the last time an airline ADDED amenities. No one has... I will say they shouldnt do the drink surcharge because that is something that will
113 AACUN : Instead of always bashing AA maybe this should be thought out.... Thanks to us looking for ways to cut cost and stay out of bankruptcy, we have manage
114 Midway737 : Actually, AA mainline would not charge pax a $1 for 12oz can of soda. American Eagle will charge it. Found out from Sunday Travel Section (Chicago Tri
115 Ctbarnes : I'll stop bitching when the airlines stop taking their customers for granted. No, it's about service. Raise the fares $20 across the board, keep the
116 Tommy767 : I miss inflight meals on transcons too.... But to be optimistic, the snack boxes on AA are not that bad. I had one a few weeks ago going from JFK to L
117 Cory6188 : CO added eliteAccess after 9/11. In my opinion, that counts as an additional amenity. It was a pretty substantial addition to make the airport experi
118 F27XXX : AirTran adding XM radio to its fleet of 737s and 717s JetBlue having free IFE on E190s Southwest serving snackboxes on longer-hauls FREE.
119 Post contains images KabAir : It seems like there are a lot of very polar opinions about all of this one way or another. I guess I can see it both ways - on the one hand I think we
120 Ikramerica : when you raise your stock price from a near cash value level because you were near BK, it's a good thing, but it's no great shakes. It just means you
121 F27XXX : Actually you did: Chateaubriand is just a large piece of filet for two, usually carved tableside . Guys trying to impress their dates on Valentine's
122 Post contains images Tommy767 : You know what I mean. And they served absolutely NOTHING . Not even a "snack plate" that you described in your post. They served drinks *BUT* showed
123 Post contains images Jacobin777 : true, but it goes to show how much faith/belief "The Street" has in AA.......and though it was close to BK, it took the proper steps to avert it...th
124 AJRfromSYR : Don't forget that not only is AA not in chap 11 but they also still have a pension plan.
125 Semsem : Next AA will take the seats out.
126 AJRfromSYR : Thanks for adding such comedic gold to this thread. That was so witty of you.
127 Kahala777 : What does that have to do with turning a once great airline into a nickel and dime operation? KAHALA777
128 AAgent : At least AA still has a nickel and a dime. Hmmmmm, perhaps you should concentrate your intellect on forwarding helpful suggestions for repairing your
129 AACUN : Ctbarnes: With all due respect sir, I guess as a missionary you interract with a lot of the fying public..... But as I said, flying over 100 hours a m
130 Kahala777 : What U.S. airline was able to sustain a contract for Nagoya from San Francisco? What U.S. airline was able to maintain Taipei post 9-11? What U.S. ai
131 AACUN : The only concern there should be is what airlines are still operating under bankruptcy protection, which have put a burden on the government and un th
132 AAgent : ...Yet they're still in bankruptcy (for years on end) and AA is not (nor has it ever). Game, set, match.
133 AA777 : Remind me which one of those is a legacy carrier, that is also the largest airline in the world? AA has more expenses, higher pay rates....it runs a
134 Post contains images Jacobin777 : wrong....AA's fares are some of the most competetive in the industry..I'm looking out for fares to destinations (both domestic and international) alm
135 1MillionFlyer : Inflight power is very unrealiable and I know many people that have ruined their laptops plugged into those ports. Most professional travellers bring
136 Jacobin777 : interesting....i haven't seen a problem on any flights which I've taken.nor have I read this problem anywhere....maybe a good power converter might h
137 F27XXX : And reorganizing themselves while in bankruptcy has enabled them to re-structure, refine and make changes to improve their product where it counts -
138 Kahala777 : United has maintained Asian markets that American failed in.... KAHALA777
139 LMP737 : Are you trying to imply that an airline has to be in BK in order to re-structure, refine and make changes? If you are then I hate to say you are a bi
140 UA772IAD : Actually, most airlines only charge for spirits, wine and beer. Juice, soda, coffee and tea are typically complimentry. Whether you get the whole can
141 AAgent : You remind me of an ostrich with it's head in the sand not wanting to face reality. Sadly, UA's plan didn't work and now they're working it out in ba
142 F27XXX : Yes - bought out by AA (yet another great move by AA) and their entire history and existence dissolved, a huge number of TWA workers laid off, and th
143 Ripcordd : KAHALA777 yes UA is able to maintain routes did they only maintian them because of prestige when AA has cut routes no matter what prestige if they don
144 Jacobin777 : you prove my point, you are comparing apples to oranges......AA's business model is different from B6's or AirTran's.....and don't compare AA's route
145 N844AA : TWA's position was untenable. It was heading for Ch. 7. Whether or not it was a great move by AA (and I think it was a defensible, and possibly even
146 F27XXX : WOW - Jacob -- you have some memory problems, too, apparently - - this is what I was responding to ..... were these not your words in the original co
147 RIPCORDD : F27XXX they bought TWA b4 someone else did to keep out its competitors that's really about it. TWA employees at least have a chance now than if nobody
148 N844AA : Personally, I'd rather have false hope than no hope at all. And of course the hope was not so much false as mistaken or misplace. But even aside from
149 AJRfromSYR : Well if AA didn't have to pay their creditors I'm sure they could be just as good as UA. Too bad UA dumps their employees pension on said passengers.
150 EHHO : This whole thread is so full of frustration seemingly. Especially Kahala is having a hard time. You said it man. Don't like AA? Don't fly them! Especi
151 LMP737 : Noticed that you didn't make much of an effort to dispute the points I made. Instead you brought out that dead horse that so many people like to beat
152 LMP737 : You seem to think that when flights like SNA-RNO, SNA-LAS or SNA-SEA are done away with those slots go into oblivion. This is not the case. The three
153 Post contains images Jacobin777 : first of all, for your information, there is no level of inconsistency in my argument..you can't compare AA to the B6, AirTran, as their business mod
154 N62NA : 763? Scheduled to be a 757. (Not wanting to nitpick, just curious if you were lucky enough to get a widebody). Me too, though on my AA flight JFK-MIA
155 F27XXX : You most certainly can - and should. If they are competitors, it is unrealistic for you to say that they shouldn't be compared. WE WERE COMPARING IN-
156 Post contains images Jacobin777 : I'm not..i'm pointing out the consistent flaws in your comments..which others have done also...
157 F27XXX : Continuing to respond to the opinions I've given means you're arguing. That's OK - arguing is good. If you dont like the term arguing, though, we can
158 Ikramerica : No, it's more than that. It is a large cut of fillet minion, yes, but it is cooked as a roast, so it has the texture of a roast, which means it's eve
159 Kahala777 : American Airlines has avoided bankruptcy at the cost of becoming the nations largest "non-full service" legacy demi low-cost operation. That one smal
160 Post contains images Jacobin777 : as I said....better than going down from cash value to bankruptcy, where no one would win besides lawyers......... AA was not too far from there.....
161 Kahala777 : And they may not be if they keep trying to play with Southwest and JetBlue. KAHALA777
162 SonOfACaptain : Are they just suppose to run from them? -SOAC
163 Post contains images FXramper : The last thing I care about on a plane, regardless of the class I'm in, is what I get...ie. IFE or an entire can of coke! I want to get some point A t
164 SonOfACaptain : Unfortunately, that isn't the mindset of a lot of people. -SOAC
165 Post contains images FXramper : When I fly, it's for pleasure. I'm just happy to be on vacation and exploring the world! I'm too pumped to care about what movie their gonna show us
166 Post contains images SonOfACaptain : Haha, you sound exactly like me....except I go with an ancient CD player. -SOAC
167 Post contains images FXramper : Whatever works...I let a friend borrow my cd player and he never gave it back so I got a 4 GB Nano...use it on flights all the time. A SLEEP MASK is
168 Cjpark : This is just another manifestation of that renowned Southwest effect where the carriers are cutting amenities to remain competitive. What they should
169 Post contains images CM767 : Tommy you are 16 to 20 years old, ten more years and believe me you will have noticed the difference, like most of us. Despite my username in the pas
170 Post contains images Jacobin777 : .....I've seen AA's F/A's as "hit or miss".......some are the old "battle-axes" from 'ell...but most are quite nice...... In general, My experience h
171 AA767400 : Why should they? They can't do anything about. And by complaining to them you are only causing more stress on a situation.
172 F27XXX : Right - theyre changing their "identity" over to a No-Frills carrier. And there's a difference between No-Frills and Low-Cost Carriers. You obviously
173 Tommy767 : It looks like your just trying to find a user here who is somewhat of a younger traveler and therefore suggesting that I do not understand the "issue
174 AerospaceFan : Although I'm very disappointed with the decreasing level of service on domestic airlines here in the U.S., I suppose that one cannot argue with econom
175 TACAA320 : LatAm are the best ones. Specially LA ones.
176 Post contains images Jacobin777 : stop yelling s'il vous plait... ....and AA's bottom line is doing well..hence they aren't in bankruptcy..... pax are and will be flying with AA, no m
177 Post contains images AerospaceFan : But then again, the satisfaction of having food service is irrespective of geographical origin, IMHO.
178 Post contains images F27XXX : then why are they nickel and diming their passengers by becoming a no-frills carrier? Honey, aint nothin little about mine ...
179 Ctbarnes : Sorry for not responding sooner, Plus I wanted to think this through: I've been an airport chaplain for the last six years, and I'm currently working
180 Post contains images Jacobin777 : they add up.... er..no comment...
181 Kahala777 : They already have in cities like Long Beach, Oakland, Orange County, Ontario, Las Vegas, Pheonix, and New York.JFK. KAHALA777
182 Post contains images CM767 : Sorry Tommy, did no meant to offend you, the point is that American specially in Latin America stood for superior safety and service and now they are
183 Post contains images Tommy767 : I understand CM767. Sorry if I went a bit off there on my last post. In Panama I'm sure that CO has a fantastic reputation in terms of inflight servic
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