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NZ Celebrates Forty Years Of LAX Service  
User currently offline777ER From New Zealand, joined Dec 2003, 12082 posts, RR: 18
Posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 3621 times:
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The inaugural Los Angeles-Auckland service operated via Fiji and Honolulu on 14 December 1965 with a DC8 aircraft.

Group General Manager Network, Marketing & Sales, Norm Thompson said it had been an exciting 40 years for Air New Zealand in North America, with significant changes in aircraft types and product offerings introduced over this time.

"First operating as TEAL (Tasman Empire Airways Limited), a small airline with only one flight per week to Long Beach, California, via the South Pacific, Air New Zealand stands today as an award winning international airline offering fourteen direct services per week Auckland to Los Angeles, seven services via Pacific Island destinations and six services per week Auckland to San Francisco.

A snapshot of key milestones for the North American operation is as follows: 14 Dec 1965 Air New Zealand's inaugural DC8 Auckland-Los Angeles service
11 Jul 1981 First B747-200 flight Auckland-Honolulu-Los Angeles
26 Aug 1982 First Auckland-Los Angeles-London service
7 Dec 1989 B767-200 ER aircraft replace B747-200s on twice weekly Auckland-Nadi-Honolulu-Los Angeles service
9 Sep 1994 B767s replaced by B747-400 aircraft on the Auckland-Honolulu-
Los Angeles route
4 Nov 1994 First direct Sydney-Los Angeles service with 3 per week introduced
Jul 1995 Increased direct B747 services Auckland-Los Angeles from 3 to 5 per week
Oct 2002 Introduction of double daily services Auckland-Los Angeles
30 Jun 2004 First Auckland-San Francisco service
29 Nov 2005 Auckland-San Francisco services increased from 3 to 6 per week

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User currently offlineJafa39 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 3594 times:

Fascinating! I first flew Air NZ in 2003, good to catch up on some history, was the AKL-LAX-LHR their first UK service or was there an earlier service by a different route?

User currently offline777ER From New Zealand, joined Dec 2003, 12082 posts, RR: 18
Reply 2, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 3586 times:
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Quoting Jafa39 (Reply 1):
was the AKL-LAX-LHR their first UK service or was there an earlier service by a different route?

Think Gatwick was their first UK service using B742s


User currently offlineRongotai From New Zealand, joined Sep 2000, 477 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 3568 times:

Gatwick, yes. But it was the DC10.

User currently offlineUnited Airline From Hong Kong, joined Jan 2001, 9160 posts, RR: 15
Reply 4, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 3566 times:

Do they have plans to reinstate services to Vancouver?

User currently offlineRongotai From New Zealand, joined Sep 2000, 477 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 3562 times:

And just reading the milestones - ANZ's first DC10 was delivered in 1973. I believe they started serving London with them in 1974. I certainly flew the route in 1975.

User currently offline777ER From New Zealand, joined Dec 2003, 12082 posts, RR: 18
Reply 6, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 3547 times:
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Quoting United Airline (Reply 4):
Do they have plans to reinstate services to Vancouver?

Apparantly yes, within the next 2 years. AC are also planninn on operating to AKL with B772LRs


User currently offlineNZ1 From New Zealand, joined May 2004, 2248 posts, RR: 25
Reply 7, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 3535 times:
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Quoting United Airline (Reply 4):
Do they have plans to reinstate services to Vancouver?

Yes we do. Expect to hear something in the new year from Mr Fyfe and co.

NZ1


User currently offline777STL From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 3546 posts, RR: 3
Reply 8, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 3499 times:

What percentage of NZ's total operations involve LAX? A pretty large percentage I gather?


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User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26357 posts, RR: 76
Reply 9, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 3435 times:

Wonder why they don't mention the CHC services?


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User currently offlineAC787 From Canada, joined Mar 2005, 337 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 3376 times:

Quoting 777ER (Reply 6):

Apparantly yes, within the next 2 years. AC are also planninn on operating to AKL with B772LRs

Would AC and NZ rlly both start services between vancouver and new zealand? I would imagine the route could only handle one carrier, with the other codesharing through the star alliance connection.


User currently offline767ER From Australia, joined Apr 2001, 1092 posts, RR: 4
Reply 11, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 3301 times:

I have a OAG timetable from May 1966 with the AKL - LAX schedules.

Tu, Sat
DC8
AKL Dep 10.15am
NAN Arr 1.05pm
NAN Dep 2.00pm
HNL Arr 10.00pm
HNL Dep 11.30pm
LAX Arr 7.25am

Tu, Sat
LAX Dep 9.30am
HNL Arr 11.45am
HNL Dep 1.00pm
NAN Arr 5.10pm
NAN Dep 6.00pm
AKL Arr 8.50pm



Aircraft flown:F27,Viscount. EMB120, SAAB340, ATR70, 737-200.737-300,DC8, DC10,747-100,747-200,747-300,747-400, A320, A3
User currently offline777ER From New Zealand, joined Dec 2003, 12082 posts, RR: 18
Reply 12, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 3287 times:
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Quoting N1120A (Reply 9):
Wonder why they don't mention the CHC services?

CHC-LAX services have been postponed till a later date

Quoting AC787 (Reply 10):
Quoting 777ER (Reply 6):

Apparantly yes, within the next 2 years. AC are also planninn on operating to AKL with B772LRs

Would AC and NZ rlly both start services between vancouver and new zealand? I would imagine the route could only handle one carrier, with the other codesharing through the star alliance connection.

Well NZ operates on some days and AC operates on the other days and they both codeshare on each others flights


User currently offlineSunriseValley From Canada, joined Jul 2004, 4857 posts, RR: 5
Reply 13, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 3257 times:

Quoting 767ER (Reply 11):
have a OAG timetable from May 1966 with the AKL - LAX schedules.

My family and I flew that north bound schedule on July 15th 1966. As I remember the flight was a good 1.5hrs late into LAX. We had planned to stopover in HNL but there was a major strike on at that time and getting out of HNL was very difficult so we passed up on the stopover.


User currently offlineKiwiandrew From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 8541 posts, RR: 13
Reply 14, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 3145 times:
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Quoting Rongotai (Reply 5):
And just reading the milestones - ANZ's first DC10 was delivered in 1973. I believe they started serving London with them in 1974. I certainly flew the route in 1975.

yes ... and no ... the LAX-LHR sector did not carry an NZ code - it was an interchange agreement with BA and the NZ DC-10 operated that leg solely with a BA flight number - no codesharing back then .

Quoting Rongotai (Reply 3):
Gatwick, yes. But it was the DC10.

no , the LGW service was operated with 747s from 1982 when it started - it routed AKL-PPT-LAX-LGW initially twice weekly - there was also , for a brief period , an AKL-PPT-DFW-LGW weekly service . The DC-10 was only ever used to LHR as part of the interchange agreement with BA



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User currently offlineAirNZ From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 3115 times:

Quoting Kiwiandrew (Reply 14):
it routed AKL-PPT-LAX-LGW initially twice weekly

It also routed LGW-LAX-HNL-AKL, in addition to some stops in Suva.


User currently offlineZK-NBT From New Zealand, joined Oct 2000, 5293 posts, RR: 11
Reply 16, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 3006 times:

Quoting 777ER (Reply 12):
CHC-LAX services have been postponed till a later date

CHC-LAX is up and running again now 3x weekly with 744's. The first non stop flight on this route was on November 2nd 2004.

Quoting AirNZ (Reply 15):
It also routed LGW-LAX-HNL-AKL, in addition to some
stops in Suva.

You mean NAN, Suva can't take anything bigger than a 737 or A320 size aircraft.

Quoting 777STL (Reply 8):
What percentage of NZ's total operations involve LAX? A pretty large percentage I gather?

Well AKL-LAX is probably the most profitable route in the network i'd say. They have up to 5 daily flights to LAX.
AKL-LAX double daily
LHR-LAX daily
AKL-Pacific-LAX daily
CHC-LAX 3x weekly.

Quite a few flights for a smallish airline.

Quoting 777ER (Reply 6):
Apparantly yes, within the next 2 years. AC are also planninn on operating to AKL with B772LRs

I have heard lately that AC would use 787's, so I guess they won't start until 2008/09 or so.


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