The taxiway is to the left. The aircraft appears to be at the begining of Kai Tak's runway, note the arrows underneath her, so I think this Andy Mok bloke just got his English a bit back to front. It's taking off?
ScottieDog From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2004, 182 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 13771 times:
Look very closely at the markings immediately under the tail. It appears very much as if it is an arrowhead. Now if I recall at Kai Tak there was a displaced threshold, and arrows on the centre-line, are used to separate the start of the paved strip from the threshold. Therefore it looks to me as if this is in fact a photo of an aircraft starting its take-off roll and nothing to do with taxiing.
IAH744 From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 133 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 13766 times:
Quoting Myt332 (Reply 4): The taxiway is to the left. The aircraft appears to be at the begining of Kai Tak's runway, note the arrows underneath her, so I think this Andy Mok bloke just got his English a bit back to front. It's taking off?
yea after looking over it a few times i think thats probaly right...
FLY2HMO From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 12557 times:
Quoting SlamClick (Reply 16): If it is a displaced threshold are they supposed to remain at low power until reaching the runway? Maybe he is anticipating just a bit.
Aircraft can start the takeoff roll as far back in the displaced threshold as they want, but they can't land on any portion of the displaced threshold. Exposure time is probably less than 1/50 of a second. Also, I don't think the plane was going over 30K, especially that early in the runway.
I'm surprised you asked Slamclick, was it different back then when you flew?
CFIjames From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 87 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 10641 times:
How, exactly, can any of you tell how fast the aircraft is going? With the darkened skies, the aircraft could be traveling at a normal taxi speed, and the camera was moved, giving the blurred effect of the background much more than it would had it been a bright sunny day. Regardless of whether it was a taxiway, runway, freeway, or sidewalk.
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Spacecadet From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 3833 posts, RR: 11
Reply 20, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 10557 times:
Quoting CFIjames (Reply 19): With the darkened skies, the aircraft could be traveling at a normal taxi speed, and the camera was moved, giving the blurred effect of the background much more than it would had it been a bright sunny day.
I think you probably just understand more about how camera exposure works than most people.
In a relatively dark exposure like this, the photographer would probably be shooting with both a fairly long shutter speed and as wide an aperture as his lens will allow. The former will introduce motion blur and the latter will result in background blur (even if the camera's stationary). There's a bit of both in this photo.
You can't tell how fast this a/c is going from this pic at all. It may be at the beginning of a takeoff run, or taxiing, but it could still be going five knots for all anyone knows.
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MarshalN From Hong Kong, joined Sep 2005, 1521 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 9739 times:
Well, from what I remember of Kai Tak, the guy should've started his takeoff roll because IIRC most planes initiate takeoff roll in the displaced threshold, sor of where the JAL plane is in the airport overview. If you look at the FedEx plane it is right about where the yellow crosses are. As far as I can remember, he would have just begun rolling.
So I guess the photographer was not on a boat but was on one of the buildings right next to the runway. I forgot there were a few buildings that way.